Posted: 12/29/2010 5:08:22 PM EDT
| I'm considering a F250 4x4 with the 6.2L gas. Any thoughts? Anything I may not know? |
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Got that very truck. '11 250 6.2. I like it and have commenced beating the crap out of it. ETA:  Shown without the 1.3 yard sander on the back. Yes, I'm plowing with a new crewcab, short-bed. The winter wheels are a size smaller than the summer/stock ones. Electric locking diff saved me from getting stuck once.
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Would you be towing heavy loads alot? If so, how heavy? If you are not going to be heavy towing. Get the 6.2L F150. It has a bigger cab, cheaper, slightly easier to drive around town, better gas mileage, ect. You would be amazed at the turning radius of 08 and newer super dutys. Can't disagree with the rest though. That 2011 SD is a nice truck, I have a 2008 F-450 and love it but I agree with some about diesel prices. With gas projected to go to 5 bucks a gallon that means diesel will be at 5.50-6.00. 
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Some people don't need or want a diesel. Does anyone need a fully automatic firearm? 
I was just curious. ETA I feel like the diesel would last alot longer and if I spent that much on a new ride id have to drive it for a whiiiiiiiiiiiile.  Just Curious: I don't need or want a fully automatic firearm because I can't afford to feed it. I also don't have a place to stretch its legs if I did have a belt fed machinegun. I wish everyone would chill out and not think that you are anti anything when you say that you do not prefer such a thing. I don't have a use for a diesel truck, but I certainly one begrdudge one who does own one. |
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If you are planning on towing anything or putting a slide-in camper in the bed, then order/specify the 4.30 axle ratio. The gas engine likes to rev and those gears put it right in the sweet spot for towing heavy loads and still having enough juice to accelerate going up hills.
Don't expect more than 12 MPG empty and 10 MPG with a load. Sure the diesels do a little better than that, but the $8,000.00 premium buys a lot of gasoline. -Gator |
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At my job we have 2 F250s an 09 V10 and a 11 6.2 V8.
The nature of the driving is very,very hard on the trucks. The company usually sells them around 20,000 miles and they are beat to crap junk at that point. That said, the 09 V10 seems to be built a bit better (feels more solid). On a steep grade where the V10 might require 40% throttle, the V8 requires 65% to build some revs. They are both getting around 10.5 mpg. |
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Some people don't need or want a diesel. Does anyone need a fully automatic firearm?
I was just curious. ETA I feel like the diesel would last alot longer and if I spent that much on a new ride id have to drive it for a whiiiiiiiiiiiile. Just Curious: I don't need or want a fully automatic firearm because I can't afford to feed it. I also don't have a place to stretch its legs if I did have a belt fed machinegun. I wish everyone would chill out and not think that you are anti anything when you say that you do not prefer such a thing. I don't have a use for a diesel truck, but I certainly one begrdudge one who does own one. Chill out Francis, I never quoted you, I quoted Engineer, He underlined need in his post insinuating if you dont need a diesel you shouldnt get one. I was just joking back with him. I dont know what the OPs needs are, thats why I asked. |
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At my job we have 2 F250s an 09 V10 and a 11 6.2 V8. The nature of the driving is very,very hard on the trucks. The company usually sells them around 20,000 miles and they are beat to crap junk at that point. That said, the 09 V10 seems to be built a bit better (feels more solid). On a steep grade where the V10 might require 40% throttle, the V8 requires 65% to build some revs. They are both getting around 10.5 mpg. Good lord son, what do yall do? |
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At my job we have 2 F250s an 09 V10 and a 11 6.2 V8. The nature of the driving is very,very hard on the trucks. The company usually sells them around 20,000 miles and they are beat to crap junk at that point. That said, the 09 V10 seems to be built a bit better (feels more solid). On a steep grade where the V10 might require 40% throttle, the V8 requires 65% to build some revs. They are both getting around 10.5 mpg. Good lord son, what do yall do? Gold mine. When you share the road with 400 ton haul trucks things get interesting. Job 1 is to stay out of their way (they're usually going about 30mph) and the "roads" are only bad when they have to slow down. As you can imagine, a "pothole" for a haul truck is a ditch for an F-series. 
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At my job we have 2 F250s an 09 V10 and a 11 6.2 V8. The nature of the driving is very,very hard on the trucks. The company usually sells them around 20,000 miles and they are beat to crap junk at that point. That said, the 09 V10 seems to be built a bit better (feels more solid). On a steep grade where the V10 might require 40% throttle, the V8 requires 65% to build some revs. They are both getting around 10.5 mpg. Good lord son, what do yall do? Gold mine. When you share the road with 400 ton haul trucks things get interesting. Job 1 is to stay out of their way (they're usually going about 30mph) and the "roads" are only bad when they have to slow down. As you can imagine, a "pothole" for a haul truck is a ditch for an F-series. http://oi55.tinypic.com/1582xrb.jpg Now thats a by god truck
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If you don't need/want a diesel, the 6.2 is an excellent engine. I did not like the 5.4L in a Super Duty. That engine is great for the 150, but an absolute dog in the SDs. To echo another poster, if you don't need the capacity of a SD get a 150 with the 6.2. The downside to the 150 is that you cannot get a long bed with the crew cab. If you only want a short bed and/or ext/reg cab this does not matter. |
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At my job we have 2 F250s an 09 V10 and a 11 6.2 V8. The nature of the driving is very,very hard on the trucks. The company usually sells them around 20,000 miles and they are beat to crap junk at that point. That said, the 09 V10 seems to be built a bit better (feels more solid). On a steep grade where the V10 might require 40% throttle, the V8 requires 65% to build some revs. They are both getting around 10.5 mpg. I'd be curious to know what axle gears are in the V8. The 4.30 is, for the most part, a special order option as Ford puts the 3.55's in as standard equipment to boost the gas mileage since most of these trucks are driven empty. The driving seat-o-the-pants difference between both is night and day. -Gator |
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At my job we have 2 F250s an 09 V10 and a 11 6.2 V8. The nature of the driving is very,very hard on the trucks. The company usually sells them around 20,000 miles and they are beat to crap junk at that point. That said, the 09 V10 seems to be built a bit better (feels more solid). On a steep grade where the V10 might require 40% throttle, the V8 requires 65% to build some revs. They are both getting around 10.5 mpg. I'd be curious to know what axle gears are in the V8. The 4.30 is, for the most part, a special order option as Ford puts the 3.55's in as standard equipment to boost the gas mileage since most of these trucks are driven empty. The driving seat-o-the-pants difference between both is night and day. -Gator It looks like (according to Ford's commercial truck site) it comes with a 3.73. |
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I stand corrected, I knew it was in the mid-3's.
But the 4.30 geared 6.2's are like rockets compared to the 3.73 geared trucks. The 6.2 has to wind out to get any power, and gearing it low is what you have to do. Unfortunately, it sucks for gas mileage, but then, when you're pulling 10K pounds uphill who cares about gas mileage. -Gator |
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In before this evolves further into a debate about whether or not the OP needs a diesel or not and whether or not heavy duty short beds are useless.
I've heard nothing but great things about both the 6.2 gas and the new Powerstroke. I have not personally driven one, but a friend of mine that owns a diesel performance shop and daily drives a 700 HP Cummins is really impressed by them. They supposedly get good mileage too. In my opinion, Ford has the best truck on the market. And all this is coming from a guy who drives a 2009 Duramax. |
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In before this evolves further into a debate about whether or not the OP needs a diesel or not and whether or not heavy duty short beds are useless. I've heard nothing but great things about both the 6.2 gas and the new Powerstroke. I have not personally driven one, but a friend of mine that owns a diesel performance shop and daily drives a 700 HP Cummins is really impressed by them. They supposedly get good mileage too. In my opinion, Ford has the best truck on the market. And all this is coming from a guy who drives a 2009 Duramax. I agree, Ive always been a Chevy guy but if I ever get another truck, it will most likely be a Ford. |
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Quoted: Compared the particulate filters of the 6.0 and 6.4 Powerstrokes, urea is a snap. Fill up the reservoir during each service. Dealer prices for urea are probably high, but urea is a common compound. Surely cheaper after market supplies have or will surface. Quoted: Some people don't need or want a diesel. I used to want one before all the urea bullshit. The diesel emission regs are ridiculous, but like NFA and GCA, this what we have to deal with until changes are made. I would much rather top off the urea reservoir than deal with the problems associated with the complex emission reduction systems in place on the previous engines. |
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Quoted: urea is urea. Buy a 50 lb bag and make your own. That is true. Anyone that remembers General Chemistry I from their undergrad years could easily come up with the 32.5% solution. The issue some may run into is that the solution MUST be made using deionized water and chemically pure urea. Buying these items in small amounts may not be cost effective. |