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12/24/2010 7:38:15 PM EDT


Should we concentrate most of our resources among our true friends, pull back, and let the rest of the world sort itself out?
12/24/2010 8:17:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Not a good idea.

Yet.
12/24/2010 8:19:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Really not a bad looking flag. Just say's.
12/24/2010 8:25:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Only problem with that is- the rest of the world is a big place. Without some sort of intervening they could get  enough of them together and that could be a force to be reckoned with. Not too many friendly's that on our side  anymore.... I think an intelligent strategy is what we need. The enemy of my enemy becomes my friend-  a lesser of two evils.

eta- spelling
12/24/2010 9:33:55 PM EDT
[#4]
Only help the white anglo-saxon countries?
12/24/2010 9:36:22 PM EDT
[#5]
Yep. Good Idea.
12/24/2010 9:37:12 PM EDT
[#6]
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Only problem with that is- the rest of the world is a big place. Without some sort of intervening they could get  enough of them together and that could be a force to be reckoned with. Not too many friendly's that on our side  anymore.... I think an intelligent strategy is what we need. The enemy of my enemy becomes my friend-  a lesser of two evils.

eta- spelling


The other world lists heavily to the good-for-nothing, invented-nothing side. If a patriotic fire could be lit under the citizens of the other former colonies, I wouldn't be too worried about the competition.
12/24/2010 9:39:50 PM EDT
[#7]
If you want other good countries to go bad, like Germany, Japan, China, Russia, France, Italy, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, etc, etc, then yes.






Otherwise, this is stupid.  Anglo countries are far too vanilla.  Trust me, the anglo world does not have the best ideas out there.







We need to concentrate on our best allies and most powerful trade partners.  It is a strategic race to see who will be a friend of the USA and who will be a friend of China.
12/24/2010 9:45:16 PM EDT
[#8]
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Really not a bad looking flag. Just say's.


Not really a big fan of the ST. George's cross being the dominant feature.

Also, I think we are suitably foreign to those countries.
12/24/2010 10:27:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Well, The Kenyan wants us to snuggle up to the likes of Indonesia and Africa. What the fuck do we have in common with places like that. All they can do is drag us down.
12/25/2010 1:40:28 AM EDT
[#10]
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http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i405/Nexus7global/anglosphere.jpg

Should we concentrate most of our resources among our true friends, pull back, and let the rest of the world sort itself out?


No, but I do like the idea of an Anglospheric alliance or even an international organization to replace the UN consisting only of Western or very West-aligned countries and not being universal like the UN.
12/25/2010 1:52:05 AM EDT
[#11]

Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.

12/25/2010 1:57:10 AM EDT
[#12]

Not bad, but it's missing something. I'll just whip up something right and proper in MS Paint.






Thoughts, criticism, ideas?






12/25/2010 2:31:24 AM EDT
[#13]
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



The Dutch used to be considered liberal to the degree of the U.S. and U.K. way back in the day (which is why our Founders looked at the Dutch Republic when coming up with a form of government for the country).  Seems that all of the liberal Western countries have fallen considerably except perhaps the Swiss and some of the American States.
12/25/2010 2:46:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Yes, I do think we should pull out of California.





12/25/2010 3:06:42 AM EDT
[#15]
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



The Dutch used to be considered liberal to the degree of the U.S. and U.K. way back in the day (which is why our Founders looked at the Dutch Republic when coming up with a form of government for the country).  Seems that all of the liberal Western countries have fallen considerably except perhaps the Swiss and some of the American States.


The old Dutch republic was I think one of the earlyest republics (1581-1795) in post middle ages Europe, though I dont know the exact details I believe some of the idears for the early US republic were partly moddeled on idears of the old  Dutch republic. At the time we also had a sort of millitia system and the RTKBA was considered a natural right of free men. One of our most famous painting the 'Night Watch'by Rembrant depicts such a millitia link
There are also poems from the time praising the freedom lovingness of the American revolution and condeming the way of the French revolution.

It seems some US states are moving to a position of'being more free while others seem to be going more socialist, but I really hope the USA stays free as Us politics kind of has a influence here still.

12/25/2010 3:29:56 AM EDT
[#16]
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



The Dutch used to be considered liberal to the degree of the U.S. and U.K. way back in the day (which is why our Founders looked at the Dutch Republic when coming up with a form of government for the country).  Seems that all of the liberal Western countries have fallen considerably except perhaps the Swiss and some of the American States.


The old Dutch republic was I think one of the earlyest republics (1581-1795) in post middle ages Europe, though I dont know the exact details I believe some of the idears for the early US republic were partly moddeled on idears of the old  Dutch republic. At the time we also had a sort of millitia system and the RTKBA was considered a natural right of free men. One of our most famous painting the 'Night Watch'by Rembrant depicts such a millitia link


Yup, I knew about that.  A book I have that discusses various militia systems while advocating for a proper one for the U.S. discusses the Dutch to include the origins of the burgher's militia and the role in maintaining a free country there and even mentions the painting by Rembrandt.  It's too bad your country gave that up among other freedoms.

An interesting thing about the Dutch Republic is that it had a monarch as the head of state; the idea of a republic being exclusively non-monarchical had not come about yet as republicanism was a larger idea relating to the structure of government (which is why we looked at the Dutch).  Interestingly, the House of Orange was among those solicited by early Americans for a monarch before the Constitution was created and ratified.  I'm not sure who was solicied explicitly (the only person I know of by name was ofa different house, Prince Henry of Prussia, who turned down the job of king of the U.S.).

There are also poems from the time praising the freedom lovingness of the American revolution and condeming the way of the French revolution.

It seems some US states are moving to a position of'being more free while others seem to be going more socialist, but I really hope the USA stays free as Us politics kind of has a influence here still.



I have my doubts, personally.  The central government is continuing to increase its power and destroy the power of subsidiaries (it's been steadily doing this since the war we had regarding secession) which ironically is the exact thing that caused the 13 colonies to secede from the UK.  The principle of subsidiarity was a huge aspect of Anglo political culture at the time and for some time after that.  States may try individually to become freer but the national government may ultimately thwart them i this effort and they don't have the power to oppose like they used to.  The UK has gone much further down the road to serfdom and due to the similarities in political culture we can easily head very far down that road given how much purchase ideas originating from the French Revolution (such as democratism) have gained in this country.  I think the West is close to the point of no return and it will take multiple Western countries reversing the current trend against freedom and revitalizing and promoting Western culture instead of the masochism we have now to fix things.  Liberty is very much a product of Western civilization and if the West irreperably falls into illiberalism then liberty has no hope to survive anywhere in the world, sadly.  Unfortunately the West seems hell-bent on rejecting its heritage and committing suicide with the Continent being the worst in this regard.

12/25/2010 4:23:20 AM EDT
[#17]



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Not bad, but it's missing something. I'll just whip up something right and proper in MS Paint.







Thoughts, criticism, ideas?










2 of those countries dont play cricket.....







You cant be in the anglosphere if you dont play cricket. Speaking of that where is poor old south africa in this talk of angloshere. They be pissed if they were left out.



But other than that it would be sweet if they had better free trade and visa practices between us all.



 
12/25/2010 4:41:33 AM EDT
[#18]
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.




The Dutch used to be considered liberal to the degree of the U.S. and U.K. way back in the day (which is why our Founders looked at the Dutch Republic when coming up with a form of government for the country).  Seems that all of the liberal Western countries have fallen considerably except perhaps the Swiss and some of the American States.


The old Dutch republic was I think one of the earlyest republics (1581-1795) in post middle ages Europe, though I dont know the exact details I believe some of the idears for the early US republic were partly moddeled on idears of the old  Dutch republic. At the time we also had a sort of millitia system and the RTKBA was considered a natural right of free men. One of our most famous painting the 'Night Watch'by Rembrant depicts such a millitia link


Yup, I knew about that.  A book I have that discusses various militia systems while advocating for a proper one for the U.S. discusses the Dutch to include the origins of the burgher's militia and the role in maintaining a free country there and even mentions the painting by Rembrandt.  It's too bad your country gave that up among other freedoms.

An interesting thing about the Dutch Republic is that it had a monarch as the head of state; the idea of a republic being exclusively non-monarchical had not come about yet as republicanism was a larger idea relating to the structure of government (which is why we looked at the Dutch).  Interestingly, the House of Orange was among those solicited by early Americans for a monarch before the Constitution was created and ratified.  I'm not sure who was solicied explicitly (the only person I know of by name was ofa different house, Prince Henry of Prussia, who turned down the job of king of the U.S.).

There are also poems from the time praising the freedom lovingness of the American revolution and condeming the way of the French revolution.

It seems some US states are moving to a position of'being more free while others seem to be going more socialist, but I really hope the USA stays free as Us politics kind of has a influence here still.



I have my doubts, personally.  The central government is continuing to increase its power and destroy the power of subsidiaries (it's been steadily doing this since the war we had regarding secession) which ironically is the exact thing that caused the 13 colonies to secede from the UK.  The principle of subsidiarity was a huge aspect of Anglo political culture at the time and for some time after that.  States may try individually to become freer but the national government may ultimately thwart them i this effort and they don't have the power to oppose like they used to.  The UK has gone much further down the road to serfdom and due to the similarities in political culture we can easily head very far down that road given how much purchase ideas originating from the French Revolution (such as democratism) have gained in this country.  I think the West is close to the point of no return and it will take multiple Western countries reversing the current trend against freedom and revitalizing and promoting Western culture instead of the masochism we have now to fix things.  Liberty is very much a product of Western civilization and if the West irreperably falls into illiberalism then liberty has no hope to survive anywhere in the world, sadly.  Unfortunately the West seems hell-bent on rejecting its heritage and committing suicide with the Continent being the worst in this regard.



Yes I know, the Dutch republics system of a neutered monarch or as they were called a Stadhouder (=Place holder for the head of state, so not the actual monarch because the was not such a thing) not such a great idear, we also had long periods of time without any Stadhouders). The USA chose wisely in rejecting this concept as the defacto monarchs were always looking for a way back into power. The current system of royalty was kind of helped along by the British, after the defeat of Napoleon (who invaded the Netherlands and disbanded the old republic) Britain wanted a strong kingdom to keep a check on the noth boader of France.

We here are starting to climb out of socialism, other parts of Europe seem to be moving that way as well. I even have the hope that the UK might have woken up out of full retard mode. I really hope the USA on a federal level hets back into the game in 2012, the recent elections at least showed me that you guys arent exactly embracing socialism.
12/25/2010 4:56:18 AM EDT
[#19]
While I understand the thinking behind that, it would be a mistake. The threats to our country and way of life do not come from the anglosphere, and we need to stay engaged with the areas that do.
12/25/2010 5:14:25 AM EDT
[#20]
3/5 of the countries represented aren't too gun friendly. I'm not too sure about them odds.
12/25/2010 5:29:20 AM EDT
[#21]
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



I didn't realize that you're from Denmark.
12/25/2010 5:45:57 AM EDT
[#22]
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



if we had leaders that didn't spend all their time wiping their asses on the BoR they might. We've got a shit load of house cleaning to do here first before we try to tell others how to act
12/25/2010 6:16:17 AM EDT
[#23]
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Only help the white anglo-saxon countries?


Which ones would those be?  I don't see any white only countries.
12/25/2010 9:01:09 AM EDT
[#24]
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One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally,



It is our biggest failing. We should not be in the business of propping up corrupt autocracies ilke Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

We should take the Bill of Rights international. Those nations that subscribe to it can be our close fiends. Those that don't, can be business partners, but nothing more. Not allies, ever.

BTW the Dutch and English languages are very close cousins. If it were up to me, you'd be allowed in our Anglosphere club, too
12/25/2010 9:05:39 AM EDT
[#25]
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Not really a big fan of the ST. George's cross being the dominant feature.
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Seeing how England/Greater Britian is the source for the Capital to Colonize all the countries depicted, makes perfect sense to me.



12/25/2010 9:24:30 AM EDT
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Thoughts, criticism, ideas?


Hmm....Perhaps a more realistic ensign would be a giant US flag, but instead of each star in the blue field, there would be tiny national flags from the fellow Angloshpere nations.
12/25/2010 9:30:59 AM EDT
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Hmm....Perhaps a more realistic ensign would be a giant US flag, but instead of each star in the blue field, there would be tiny national flags from the fellow Angloshpere nations.


Nah, the cultural and linguistic homeland of the Anglosphere is England.  We may be the guy who left home at 17 and didn't call his mum for 10 years, but we're still all under the English umbrella.  That said, I think the first image gave that impression better.
12/25/2010 9:34:49 AM EDT
[#28]



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Not bad, but it's missing something. I'll just whip up something right and proper in MS Paint.







Thoughts, criticism, ideas?












Yeah, fuck Ireland!



 
12/25/2010 9:38:18 AM EDT
[#29]
what do you mean "our" resources?
12/25/2010 10:03:38 AM EDT
[#30]
The resources of the Anglosphere, of course.
12/25/2010 11:38:08 AM EDT
[#31]
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Not bad, but it's missing something. I'll just whip up something right and proper in MS Paint.


Thoughts, criticism, ideas?




2 of those countries dont play cricket.....



You cant be in the anglosphere if you dont play cricket. Speaking of that where is poor old south africa in this talk of angloshere. They be pissed if they were left out.

But other than that it would be sweet if they had better free trade and visa practices between us all.
 


South Africa can join when the system doesn't result in people like Zuma and Mbeki coming to power or parties like the ANC.  They should also have to ensure the interests of our Western brethren there are represented.  Not sure how the Afrikaners would feel about being in an Anglospheric anything but I'm sure the Britishers wouldn't mind, same with those in other parts of Africa like Zimbabwe, Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, and Zambia to name the countries with sizeable populations that come to the top of my head.
12/25/2010 11:48:03 AM EDT
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.




The Dutch used to be considered liberal to the degree of the U.S. and U.K. way back in the day (which is why our Founders looked at the Dutch Republic when coming up with a form of government for the country).  Seems that all of the liberal Western countries have fallen considerably except perhaps the Swiss and some of the American States.


The old Dutch republic was I think one of the earlyest republics (1581-1795) in post middle ages Europe, though I dont know the exact details I believe some of the idears for the early US republic were partly moddeled on idears of the old  Dutch republic. At the time we also had a sort of millitia system and the RTKBA was considered a natural right of free men. One of our most famous painting the 'Night Watch'by Rembrant depicts such a millitia link


Yup, I knew about that.  A book I have that discusses various militia systems while advocating for a proper one for the U.S. discusses the Dutch to include the origins of the burgher's militia and the role in maintaining a free country there and even mentions the painting by Rembrandt.  It's too bad your country gave that up among other freedoms.

An interesting thing about the Dutch Republic is that it had a monarch as the head of state; the idea of a republic being exclusively non-monarchical had not come about yet as republicanism was a larger idea relating to the structure of government (which is why we looked at the Dutch).  Interestingly, the House of Orange was among those solicited by early Americans for a monarch before the Constitution was created and ratified.  I'm not sure who was solicied explicitly (the only person I know of by name was ofa different house, Prince Henry of Prussia, who turned down the job of king of the U.S.).

There are also poems from the time praising the freedom lovingness of the American revolution and condeming the way of the French revolution.

It seems some US states are moving to a position of'being more free while others seem to be going more socialist, but I really hope the USA stays free as Us politics kind of has a influence here still.



I have my doubts, personally.  The central government is continuing to increase its power and destroy the power of subsidiaries (it's been steadily doing this since the war we had regarding secession) which ironically is the exact thing that caused the 13 colonies to secede from the UK.  The principle of subsidiarity was a huge aspect of Anglo political culture at the time and for some time after that.  States may try individually to become freer but the national government may ultimately thwart them i this effort and they don't have the power to oppose like they used to.  The UK has gone much further down the road to serfdom and due to the similarities in political culture we can easily head very far down that road given how much purchase ideas originating from the French Revolution (such as democratism) have gained in this country.  I think the West is close to the point of no return and it will take multiple Western countries reversing the current trend against freedom and revitalizing and promoting Western culture instead of the masochism we have now to fix things.  Liberty is very much a product of Western civilization and if the West irreperably falls into illiberalism then liberty has no hope to survive anywhere in the world, sadly.  Unfortunately the West seems hell-bent on rejecting its heritage and committing suicide with the Continent being the worst in this regard.



Yes I know, the Dutch republics system of a neutered monarch or as they were called a Stadhouder (=Place holder for the head of state, so not the actual monarch because the was not such a thing) not such a great idear, we also had long periods of time without any Stadhouders). The USA chose wisely in rejecting this concept as the defacto monarchs were always looking for a way back into power. The current system of royalty was kind of helped along by the British, after the defeat of Napoleon (who invaded the Netherlands and disbanded the old republic) Britain wanted a strong kingdom to keep a check on the noth boader of France.

We here are starting to climb out of socialism, other parts of Europe seem to be moving that way as well. I even have the hope that the UK might have woken up out of full retard mode. I really hope the USA on a federal level hets back into the game in 2012, the recent elections at least showed me that you guys arent exactly embracing socialism.


I know about the stadhouders as that system of heading government was looked at for the United States by our Founders.  My understanding, if the European guy I learned it from was correct (and I have no reason to doubt him), is that they weren't so much neutered as incorporated into a proper system of checks and balances which limited their power compared to other monarchs on the Continent (the only thing comparable at the time I can think of would be the UK's monarchy).  A neutered monarchy is what you have now, which IMO is to your country's detriment.  The UK is a perfect example of how when the monarch detaches from politics, especially when the upper House of the legislature also is taken out, the results can be rather ugly as it gives the lower House and prime minister free reign most of the time and in a democratic system socialism tends to be the natural result.

I also have my doubts about Europe climbing out of socialism.  Unless it collapses completely I think it will likely stick around.  The problem in the U.S. is that any time the Right or those claiming to be on the Right (false claims being an issue and common by Republican politicians) they almost never repeal anything; at best they hold the line, at worst they make compromises that still result in expansion of government power just to a lesser degree than the Democrats desired or the Republicans for their own purposes expand government.  So government continues to grow no matter who is in charge and continues to slide down the dangerous path.  The national government also doesn't stop gaining more power or destroying the power of subsidiaries.  They've already pretty much neutered everything but the States and even they can't all stand up.  It' pretty sad what a shadow we have become of ourselves but then of course the same can be said for most of Europe and the few other Western countries as well.

12/25/2010 11:49:06 AM EDT
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



I didn't realize that you're from Denmark.


I'm not sure if that's a joke or not.
12/25/2010 11:52:08 AM EDT
[#34]
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One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally,



It is our biggest failing. We should not be in the business of propping up corrupt autocracies ilke Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

We should take the Bill of Rights international. Those nations that subscribe to it can be our close fiends. Those that don't, can be business partners, but nothing more. Not allies, ever.

BTW the Dutch and English languages are very close cousins. If it were up to me, you'd be allowed in our Anglosphere club, too


Instead we have exported democracy and have been destroying countries with it since the days of Wilson.

However, only dealing with countries as liberal as ours should be (we are a far cry from where we used to be or any truly faithful adherence to the Bill of Rights) is extremely impractical and damaging to our interests.  I do think if we created something to replace the UN it should promote liberal government including the adoption of a bill of rights modeled after ours rather than the stupid crap the UN has which doesn't really deal with genuine rights.
12/25/2010 12:16:01 PM EDT
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http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i405/Nexus7global/anglosphere.jpg

Should we concentrate most of our resources among our true friends, pull back, and let the rest of the world sort itself out?


No, but I do like the idea of an Anglospheric alliance or even an international organization to replace the UN consisting only of Western or very West-aligned countries and not being universal like the UN.


How about something wild like a United Nations that is really united... because its member states are all democracies. The one we have has no business trying to tax the world –– or putting the worst human rights offenders in charge of determining our supposed human rights abuses.

It was also stupid for us to build China up when they are a one party dictatorship with geopolitical interests that challenge our own. We will always be behind the eight ball with them.
12/25/2010 12:16:52 PM EDT
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Otherwise, this is stupid.  Anglo countries are far too vanilla.  Trust me, the anglo world does not have the best ideas out there.


Not sure where you live but its not like that around here.

What marvelous ideas are we all waiting for from overseas? Seems like they continue to copy us and even steal our technology.

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what do you mean "our" resources?


Maybe the fortune we give away every year to the rest of the world (which seems very good at one thing: making problems).

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In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



Thank you Iggy, you have common sense.

The rights articulated in that document are real rights and do not come at the expense of others (unlike all the "rights" socialists would like to manufacture). It's important to understand the difference.
12/25/2010 12:34:43 PM EDT
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http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i405/Nexus7global/anglosphere.jpg

Should we concentrate most of our resources among our true friends, pull back, and let the rest of the world sort itself out?


No, but I do like the idea of an Anglospheric alliance or even an international organization to replace the UN consisting only of Western or very West-aligned countries and not being universal like the UN.


How about something wild like a United Nations that is really united... because its member states are all democracies. The one we have has no business trying to tax the world –– or putting the worst human rights offenders in charge of determining our supposed human rights abuses.

It was also stupid for us to build China up when they are a one party dictatorship with geopolitical interests that challenge our own. We will always be behind the eight ball with them.


It shouldn't be based on them being democracies.  We really need to stop with promoting such a bad system of government.  What should be the emphasis is liberalism but there should also, IMO, especially given the status of the West today, be a Western emphasis.  Ratification of something along the lines of our Bill of Rights (adapted to the traditions and customs of the members) should be a requirement for membership.

And we built up China because we thought it would make things worse for the Soviets.  I doubt the Soviets would have lasted much longer had the ChiComs continued to have been rejected to include a lack of recognition for their government (we recognized Nanking/Taipei not Peking).  I agree it was a bad move.  Seems a lot of Kissinger's ideas turned out badly (Rhodesia and South Africa among them, of course).
12/25/2010 12:39:47 PM EDT
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Not sure how the Afrikaners would feel about being in an Anglospheric anything but I'm sure the Britishers wouldn't mind, same with those in other parts of Africa like Zimbabwe, Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, and Zambia to name the countries with sizeable populations that come to the top of my head.


Ah, no. No.

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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).





One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.





In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.











I didn't realize that you're from Denmark.






I'm not sure if that's a joke or not.



Of course he was joking. We all know that Dutch is just another word for German.






 
12/25/2010 1:02:12 PM EDT
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



I didn't realize that you're from Denmark.


I'm not sure if that's a joke or not.

Of course he was joking. We all know that Dutch is just another word for German.








 


That's why they call their money the dutchmark.
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



I didn't realize that you're from Denmark.


I'm not sure if that's a joke or not.

Of course he was joking. We all know that Dutch is just another word for German .




But at least our geese are safe








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Not bad, but it's missing something. I'll just whip up something right and proper in MS Paint.







Thoughts, criticism, ideas?










2 of those countries dont play cricket.....







 


That's because 2 of those countries realized cricket is a retarded sport.



And the hippies of New-Zealand don't deserve to be in our select club.



 
12/25/2010 1:10:51 PM EDT
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Being Dutch it might sound strange but iI feel countrys from the Anglo sfeer have a greater appreciation for personal freedom than the ones on continental Europe (exeptions for the Swiss, but they generally mind their own buisness in their mountain fortess ).

One of the great failings of the USA is not promoting the values of the bill of rights internationally, like when president Calderon called for a AWB he should have been tar and fethered on the spot for being a corrupt 3rd world POS that would deny his people basic human rights.

In my opinion the BOR IS superior to any UN resolution and should be promoted as such.



I didn't realize that you're from Denmark.


I'm not sure if that's a joke or not.

Of course he was joking. We all know that Dutch is just another word for German .




But at least our geese are safe










I don't even know how you did the quotes like that.  
12/25/2010 8:16:47 PM EDT
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Not sure how the Afrikaners would feel about being in an Anglospheric anything but I'm sure the Britishers wouldn't mind, same with those in other parts of Africa like Zimbabwe, Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, and Zambia to name the countries with sizeable populations that come to the top of my head.


Ah, no. No.



I'm talking about the white populations not the countries as a whole.
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That's because 2 of those countries realized cricket is a retarded sport.





And the hippies of New-Zealand don't deserve to be in our select club.


 
Only cricket I have ever seen in person was a bunch of Iranians at a local school baseball diamond


I actually stopped to watch LOL


they were very nice and asked if I wanted to play
 
12/25/2010 9:12:20 PM EDT
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Wait, are we allowing the Scots in? Cause I sure as hell can't understand them.
12/25/2010 9:25:07 PM EDT
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Wait, are we allowing the Scots in? Cause I sure as hell can't understand them.
This guy is fucking awesome



kicking a burning terrorist in the balls



but honestly I laughed my ass off at his interviews


I understood it all though I must watch way too much BBC

 
12/28/2010 2:58:11 PM EDT
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Wait, are we allowing the Scots in? Cause I sure as hell can't understand them.
This guy is fucking awesome

kicking a burning terrorist in the balls

but honestly I laughed my ass off at his interviews

I understood it all though I must watch way too much BBC



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5y4gKT7bAQ&feature=related