[ARCHIVED THREAD] - BEER!!! (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/2/2010 5:41:38 PM EDT
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Greetings and salutations Hive,
So..... I am going to open a tavern/restaurant in 3-4 weeks. We will have 6 beers on tap and 4 bottled beers. I am planning on having ....Tap Beers.... Blue Moon (Ladies seem to like it with oranges) Killians (whatever) Coors Light (in Colorado so it's a must) Sam Adams (Cool name and all) Warsteiner Verum Warsteiner Dunkel (both are full of War and Steiner) ...Bottled Beer... Corona Bud Light Negra Modelo MGD What do you Beer aficionados think of the list OR do you prefer others when eating pizza, cheesesteaks, and hot wings? "There is no such thing as Luck, only hope and skill" slaveghost |
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If you can get it. Try out some Alaskan Amber and Alaskan White. Both better than most of the stuff I've run into. You might be better off hitting the local bars in the area and see what they are using. As a start. I almost grabbed that tonight! but went with st. paulli girl special dark. Will give those a go this weekend. |
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If you can get it. Try out some Alaskan Amber and Alaskan White. Both better than most of the stuff I've run into. You might be better off hitting the local bars in the area and see what they are using. As a start. I almost grabbed that tonight! but went with st. paulli girl special dark. Will give those a go this weekend. The White is better, over all...at least to my taste. That said, haven't met a whole lot of beers I have liked.  Thier IPA tastes like crap.
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With the great selection of beers in CO, your line up is less than impressive. Also do the math, your margin on craft beer is much much better. Also with the middle of the road beers you have selected you will not do well with the craft or crap beer crowd. Also remember local is usually fresher and better quality and people really like it. Think about all the people in TX that drink Shiner and that shit is gross. |
| You're off to a good start, but I think that you may need to diversify/expand the list - especially out here in kolorado. People around here - at least myself and my wide range of friends, mostly like microbrews. Of course, depending on where you're locating, your selection could be perfect. As for "common" beer, PBR ain't bad, either. Shoot a PM or email my way and let me know where you plan to locate. I'll give you my 2 cents and I'll stop at your new establishment for a barley soda if it's close to my neck of the woods. I love beer. |
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You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? You sir are a scholar and a gentleman, I am embarrassed to be in your presence. I will join your post apocalyptic gang and gather, cook and serve the long pork to your more worthy subjects. Fat Tire will now replace Killians. slaveghost |
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Quoted: Quoted: You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? No offense (or not too much), bu Flat Tire is tourist beer. However, New Belgium does make some good beer like the Abbey that's in my refrigerator. I love a lot of the New Belgium brews, I like Abbey, 1554, Trippel, etc.. And CO has a fantastic microbrew scene... I like the Dillon Dam Brewery quite a bit. I was thinking from along the lines of running a successful business (I bartended for years) - you have to have things on tap that are going to appeal to the widest swath of customers coming into your bar, especially when the selection is as small as the OP has suggested.... |
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You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? This. I was expecting to see a New Belgium or Odell Brewing Company beer on that list. Where in Colorado will you be? My favorite burger place just closed  Greenwood Village. Fairly well to do community, near the new landmark development. So we will also have Vino, martinis, etc... plus pasta entrees and high end salads. slaveghost |
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A prominant box with the lettering "What beers would you like to see here?" Along with paper and something to write with. Have yet to see a bar do that. And it would be a rather simple way to see what the patrons want rather than relying on staff memory. Or, make it a policy for staff to write down requests and turn them in to avoid box stuffing. 
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You're off to a good start, but I think that you may need to diversify/expand the list - especially out here in kolorado. People around here - at least myself and my wide range of friends, mostly like microbrews. Of course, depending on where you're locating, your selection could be perfect. As for "common" beer, PBR ain't bad, either. Shoot a PM or email my way and let me know where you plan to locate. I'll give you my 2 cents and I'll stop at your new establishment for a barley soda if it's close to my neck of the woods. I love beer. Indeed, we have been toying with the idea going more micro brew/local stuff with maybe just a couple of the nationally popular brands. Colorado is the micro brew capitol after all. One of my partners mentions PBR tall boys every time we discuss the topic, not sure if that is the crowd we will get in our area however. slaveghost |
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You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? No offense (or not too much), bu Flat Tire is tourist beer. However, New Belgium does make some good beer like the Abbey that's in my refrigerator. A lot of people really seem to like that stuff though, I don't. we have a lot of hotels near by, right next to a light rail station too. So we will have plenty of out of towner's we imagine, Tech center and all. slaveghost |
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Here's another idea... A prominant box with the lettering "What beers would you like to see here?" Along with paper and something to write with. Have yet to see a bar do that. And it would be a rather simple way to see what the patrons want rather than relying on staff memory. Or, make it a policy for staff to write down requests and turn them in to avoid box stuffing. Good idea, changing a brand is easy as pie. As at this point the tunnel vision on just opening has thinking outside the box a chore. slaveghost |
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You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? No offense (or not too much), bu Flat Tire is tourist beer. However, New Belgium does make some good beer like the Abbey that's in my refrigerator. Fat Tire is a decent amber ale. Nowhere near as good as what I'm drinking right now, but very decent. I'm hoping to open a brewpub some day. OP, have you considered brewing on site? |
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You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? This. I was expecting to see a New Belgium or Odell Brewing Company beer on that list. Where in Colorado will you be? My favorite burger place just closed Greenwood Village. Fairly well to do community, near the new landmark development. So we will also have Vino, martinis, etc... plus pasta entrees and high end salads. slaveghost Well, if I have time the next time I'm on the Front Range, and you are open...I'll stop in
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| Colorado has some excellent microbrews, you must have some being in the state. Otherwise your choice looks ok but could be better. From a beer lover and a guy who travels for business alot, you should expand your selection. I know that myself and all the guys I travel with, we look for places on the internet when in new cities that have big/good beer selections. The food comes second. If you had a really good ber selection you would be full all the time. |
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Needs more Guinness and Harp... Guinness is my favorite adult beverage. But we are not sure if we will garner the cliental in our area especially at lunch for that, plus we could run into a space issue for the extra equipment, nitrous tanks and crap for it. I am however still pushing for it with my partners. slaveghost |
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You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? No offense (or not too much), bu Flat Tire is tourist beer. However, New Belgium does make some good beer like the Abbey that's in my refrigerator. Fat Tire is a decent amber ale. Nowhere near as good as what I'm drinking right now, but very decent. I'm hoping to open a brewpub some day. Yes, we have a huge, and I mean HUGE basement that we think we cant fit 6-8 vats for brewing, but the .gov has to approve of this. slaveghost OP, have you considered brewing on site? |
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Needs more Guinness and Harp... Guinness is my favorite adult beverage. But we are not sure if we will garner the cliental in our area especially at lunch for that, plus we could run into a space issue for the extra equipment, nitrous tanks and crap for it. I am however still pushing for it with my partners. slaveghost I'm in your area...  
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You're in Colorado, and no Fat Tire? No offense (or not too much), bu Flat Tire is tourist beer. However, New Belgium does make some good beer like the Abbey that's in my refrigerator. Fat Tire is a decent amber ale. Nowhere near as good as what I'm drinking right now, but very decent. I'm hoping to open a brewpub some day. Yes, we have a huge, and I mean HUGE basement that we think we cant fit 6-8 vats for brewing, but the .gov has to approve of this. slaveghost OP, have you considered brewing on site? Yes we have, we have the room in our gigantic basement. |
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Quoted: ....Tap Beers.... Blue Moon (Ladies seem to like it with oranges) O'Dells Easy Street Wheat Killians (whatever) New Belgium Ranger or Stone IPA Coors Light (in Colorado so it's a must) Just... no. Sam Adams (Cool name and all) New Belgium Fat Tire Warsteiner Verum Either NB Blue Paddle or Left Hand Pole Star Warsteiner Dunkel (both are full of War and Steiner) ...Bottled Beer... Corona Bud Light Negra Modelo MGD slaveghost Serve what you want in bottles, I wouldn't go to a place with taps to drink bottled beer. |
| Don't listen to the beer snobs. I am a beer distibutor and I could tell you in a hartbeat how my products will make or break your establishment. The truth is you need to have above decent food, agreat atmosphere and lastly a decent selection of brews. Within a couple of months your bar tenders will tell you what you need to have available. Every state, county, and nieghborhood is a different market. Don't price yourself to low. You can always run specials, or lower your prices. Raising your prices in the first year is death. |
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Don't listen to the beer snobs. I am a beer distibutor and I could tell you in a hartbeat how my products will make or break your establishment. The truth is you need to have above decent food, agreat atmosphere and lastly a decent selection of brews. Within a couple of months your bar tenders will tell you what you need to have available. Every state, county, and nieghborhood is a different market. Don't price yourself to low. You can always run specials, or lower your prices. Raising your prices in the first year is death. This may be a very important post not to miss.
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Greetings and salutations Hive, So..... I am going to open a tavern/restaurant in 3-4 weeks. We will have 6 beers on tap and 4 bottled beers. I am planning on having ....Tap Beers.... Blue Moon (Ladies seem to like it with oranges) Killians (whatever) Coors Light (in Colorado so it's a must) Sam Adams (Cool name and all) Warsteiner Verum Warsteiner Dunkel (both are full of War and Steiner) ...Bottled Beer... Corona Bud Light Negra Modelo MGD What do you Beer aficionados think of the list OR do you prefer others when eating pizza, cheesesteaks, and hot wings? "There is no such thing as Luck, only hope and skill" slaveghost Miller lite should be added to your lineup. IF you were east coast, I'd say you definitely need Yuengling, but since your CO, I'll let it slide. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Get some Belgian Ale on tap and encourage people to drink it. Tell people that no one can out drink the Belgians...or can they?  The Irish! The Welsh portion of my ancestry along with the German portion laugh at the Irish.  I don't think the Irish, Welsh or Germans can beat the Belgians at drinking beer. |
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Quoted: Don't listen to the beer snobs. I am a beer distibutor and I could tell you in a hartbeat how my products will make or break your establishment. The truth is you need to have above decent food, agreat atmosphere and lastly a decent selection of brews. Within a couple of months your bar tenders will tell you what you need to have available. Every state, county, and nieghborhood is a different market. Don't price yourself to low. You can always run specials, or lower your prices. Raising your prices in the first year is death. this is sage advice. Everyone loves the bar that has awesome happy hour deals, but the guy that sells $3.25 bottled beers all day every day doesn't make my list. |
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Get some Belgian Ale on tap and encourage people to drink it. Tell people that no one can out drink the Belgians...or can they?
The Irish! The Welsh portion of my ancestry along with the German portion laugh at the Irish. I don't think the Irish, Welsh or Germans can beat the Belgians at drinking beer. ((chuckles)) One of these days we should get together and find out.
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