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11/22/2010 9:00:09 AM EDT
safe
11/22/2010 9:00:34 AM EDT
[#1]
That's all in good fun until someone loses a finger.
11/22/2010 9:01:12 AM EDT
[#2]
They are gonna make fortune opening "broken" ones.

Also, how "safe" is something one person can carry?
11/22/2010 9:02:48 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
They are gonna make fortune opening "broken" ones.

Also, how "safe" is something one person can carry?


Well you build a big metal box around it with a sturdy lock...
11/22/2010 9:13:32 AM EDT
[#4]
Those are great bedside boxes. Obviously, they need to be bolted down and there is a backup barrel key entry in case of failure. Mainly used to keep kids and such out but they are stronger than you think. The spring loaded door opens quick when you swipe it so it give you fast access and there is no fumbling around with codes.
11/22/2010 9:14:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
They are gonna make fortune opening "broken" ones.

Also, how "safe" is something one person can carry?


I don't know about this safe but the GunVault models have bolt holes on the bottom so you can bolt it to a shelf.  I'm not much of a bolt expert but I'd imaging there are configurations you can use that would require someone to open the safe first before they could unscrew the bolts.

The whole purpose of a handgun safe isn't to prevent someone from walking off with it, but to prevent kids and dim witted guests from finger fucking your go to gun.  I think they are a great idea for certain people in certain situations.

11/22/2010 9:52:12 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
They are gonna make fortune opening "broken" ones.

Also, how "safe" is something one person can carry?


The whole purpose of a handgun safe isn't to prevent someone from walking off with it, but to prevent kids and dim witted guests from finger fucking your go to gun.  I think they are a great idea for certain people in certain situations.



Exactly, its just to have quick access for me
11/22/2010 10:03:45 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
They are gonna make fortune opening "broken" ones.

Also, how "safe" is something one person can carry?


The whole purpose of a handgun safe isn't to prevent someone from walking off with it, but to prevent kids and dim witted guests from finger fucking your go to gun.  I think they are a great idea for certain people in certain situations.



Exactly, its just to have quick access for me


Yep.  Most of my guns are in the big safe, but I keep a home defensive pistol with light & extra mag in a handgun safe.  I don't have any delusion that it would prevent theft.  It will, however, keep my preschooler from getting into it.  I like the idea of a biometric to allow my wife access without remembering a code.  Also easier than remembering my GunVault sequence.
11/22/2010 10:05:51 AM EDT
[#8]
I will always condone the push button versions over biometric.
11/22/2010 10:23:52 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I will always condone the push button versions over biometric.


Why is that?
11/22/2010 10:26:20 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
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I will always condone the push button versions over biometric.


Why is that?


What if your finger is taped up or bleeding.

11/22/2010 10:27:51 AM EDT
[#11]
"The intrinsic reliability of the biometric technology in the INPRINT is stated at 1:100,000 for a false acceptance rate (FAR). This compares extremely favorably to some of the competition with a rate of 1:5,000. The company claims this safe is more secure - hands down!"

When you're dealing with a biometric lock and you want your handgun to become immediately available, you need to be just as concerned, if not more so, with the false rejection rate.

These sorts of biometric safes are notorious for rejecting previously encoded biometric information.

And then there are some minor hand injuries that could interfere with the process of getting your hands on your handgun as well if the need arises.

Stick with a model that accepts a numeric code.
1/8/2011 2:31:45 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
"The intrinsic reliability of the biometric technology in the INPRINT is stated at 1:100,000 for a false acceptance rate (FAR). This compares extremely favorably to some of the competition with a rate of 1:5,000. The company claims this safe is more secure - hands down!"

When you're dealing with a biometric lock and you want your handgun to become immediately available, you need to be just as concerned, if not more so, with the false rejection rate.

These sorts of biometric safes are notorious for rejecting previously encoded biometric information.

And then there are some minor hand injuries that could interfere with the process of getting your hands on your handgun as well if the need arises.

Stick with a model that accepts a numeric code.


yeah thats not what one needs in a self defense situation