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10/26/2010 12:19:09 AM EDT
youtube link Enjoy!

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10/26/2010 12:23:41 AM EDT
[#1]
I cannot wait until these things are flying by the tens of thousands over US cities while



being used for surveillance by Homeland Security and such law enforcement agencies...



ALL in the name of safety of course



Oh..But wait...

10/26/2010 12:27:09 AM EDT
[#2]
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I cannot wait until these things are flying by the tens of thousands over US cities while
being used for surveillance by Homeland Security and such law enforcement agencies...

ALL in the name of safety of course

Oh..But wait...


What's good for the goose is good for the gander...
10/26/2010 12:27:23 AM EDT
[#3]
I think it's mostly illegal...but it's cool to see the setups these guys are using i.e. headtrackers
10/26/2010 12:28:10 AM EDT
[#4]
LMAO, are they crashing those into random peoples open windows and stuff?
10/26/2010 12:33:12 AM EDT
[#5]
someone fill me in, why is this illegal?
10/26/2010 12:33:21 AM EDT
[#6]



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LMAO, are they crashing those into random peoples open windows and stuff?


that's what im wondering too.  



 
10/26/2010 12:34:19 AM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


someone fill me in, why is this illegal?


in most cities it is against the law to fly  r/c planes over roads ad shit.  it's just a fine though.  



 
10/26/2010 12:34:24 AM EDT
[#8]
that was some nice flying. I think it was the pilots that the planes "crashed" into to recover them.  i like the ones that were flying between the trees, that takes skill.
10/26/2010 12:36:51 AM EDT
[#9]
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LMAO, are they crashing those into random peoples open windows and stuff?


No, it's the pilots landing them, controlled crash

Here's another of one getting chased by a police helicopter link
10/26/2010 12:56:37 AM EDT
[#10]
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someone fill me in, why is this illegal?

in most cities it is against the law to fly  r/c planes over roads ad shit.  it's just a fine though.  
 


Ah, I thought it had something to do with the video equipment attached to the plane.


That looks like some serious fun. Could be extremely useful for scouting elk.



10/26/2010 12:57:33 AM EDT
[#11]
Cool but dangerous.

But really cool.
10/26/2010 12:57:43 AM EDT
[#12]
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someone fill me in, why is this illegal?

in most cities it is against the law to fly  r/c planes over roads ad shit.  it's just a fine though.  
 


Ah, I thought it had something to do with the video equipment attached to the plane.


That looks like some serious fun. Could be extremely useful for scouting elk.





and buzzing the shit out of them at low level
10/26/2010 1:01:04 AM EDT
[#13]
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someone fill me in, why is this illegal?

in most cities it is against the law to fly  r/c planes over roads ad shit.  it's just a fine though.  
 


Ah, I thought it had something to do with the video equipment attached to the plane.


That looks like some serious fun. Could be extremely useful for scouting elk.





and buzzing the shit out of them at low level


And hopefully scaring them onto the huntable property








10/26/2010 1:15:19 AM EDT
[#14]
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someone fill me in, why is this illegal?

in most cities it is against the law to fly  r/c planes over roads ad shit.  it's just a fine though.  
 


Ah, I thought it had something to do with the video equipment attached to the plane.


That looks like some serious fun. Could be extremely useful for scouting elk.





and buzzing the shit out of them at low level


And hopefully scaring them onto the huntable property










10/26/2010 1:18:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
someone fill me in, why is this illegal?


It's not, it's called VR flying and it is becoming more popular than ever.

The only thing that can be illegal is if your video cam transmitter exceeds FCC limits. There are quite a few on ebay that do, shipped straight from china to your doorstep and it is not really enforced. Beyond that, perfectly legal. FCC transmitter reg require your transmitter to be ridiculously weak, limiting the range of the video transmission. The R/C radio will likely have a greater range than most legal video transmitters. This is why many fudge on this part a little bit. As you could well imagine it would be very difficult to enforce. Wsie to fly any R/C out of city limits anyway if possible,  interference can be a problem. Oddly enough, in Canada, where this really started as a hobby, the transmission power limits are more reasonable.

Personally I think it would be fun as hell. I tried it with a cheaper setup (video feed to portable TV) but it was too hard to fly using an R/C Helicopter.  (Shogun V2 clone)
10/26/2010 1:20:10 AM EDT
[#16]
I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.
10/26/2010 1:21:22 AM EDT
[#17]
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I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.


You and me both...damn my hobbies are expensive
10/26/2010 1:25:56 AM EDT
[#18]
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I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.


watch this vid, looks fun as hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0pU_u4Q9E

apparently they sell the gear here:

fpvsystems.com
10/26/2010 1:26:06 AM EDT
[#19]
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I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.


You and me both...damn my hobbies are expensive


I've flown a few planes and they are not hard to fly. I have been looking around, and you can get great deals from nitroplanes.com but I can't speak for their quality. Likely not that great, but seems like a good outlet to get back into it without breaking the bank. Especially when I destroy one.
10/26/2010 1:29:32 AM EDT
[#20]
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I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.


watch this vid, looks fun as hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0pU_u4Q9E

apparently they sell the gear here:

fpvsystems.com


fuck yeah that is awesome
10/26/2010 1:37:19 AM EDT
[#21]
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I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.


watch this vid, looks fun as hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0pU_u4Q9E

apparently they sell the gear here:

fpvsystems.com


fuck yeah that is awesome


Does he get close to those windmills!

mtech, I'm seriously gonna start up the RC hobby!
10/26/2010 1:38:32 AM EDT
[#22]
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I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.


watch this vid, looks fun as hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0pU_u4Q9E

apparently they sell the gear here:

fpvsystems.com


fuck yeah that is awesome


Does he get close to those windmills!

mtech, I'm seriously gonna start up the RC hobby!


I am too. I've been checking out planes online for the last week. Can't decide what to do. Watching those videos makes me want to get something suitable to add video equipment to.
10/26/2010 1:39:27 AM EDT
[#23]
are there some "beginner" ones?
10/26/2010 1:41:49 AM EDT
[#24]
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I've been thinking of getting back into RC, this might just push me over the limit. Looks like loads of fun.


watch this vid, looks fun as hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0pU_u4Q9E

apparently they sell the gear here:

fpvsystems.com


fuck yeah that is awesome


Does he get close to those windmills!

mtech, I'm seriously gonna start up the RC hobby!


I am too. I've been checking out planes online for the last week. Can't decide what to do. Watching those videos makes me want to get something suitable to add video equipment to.


Yeah it seems if your gonna get something, it might as well be something modular.
10/26/2010 1:42:30 AM EDT
[#25]
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are there some "beginner" ones?


I need to look later and see if they sell whole 'ready to fly' FPV kits
10/26/2010 1:43:44 AM EDT
[#26]
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are there some "beginner" ones?


Absolutely. Park Zone sells some with "anti-crash" technology, and their trainer cessna looking plane is super easy to fly. You'll crash but it's no big deal. they are easy and cheap to repair.

edit: We're you talking about planes or video equipment?
10/26/2010 1:45:26 AM EDT
[#27]
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are there some "beginner" ones?


I need to look later and see if they sell whole 'ready to fly' FPV kits


Let me know what you find. Post it here for sure.
10/26/2010 1:47:28 AM EDT
[#28]
planes. i don't want to buy 300$ plane and crash it and be out 300$
10/26/2010 1:48:53 AM EDT
[#29]
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are there some "beginner" ones?


I need to look later and see if they sell whole 'ready to fly' FPV kits


Let me know what you find. Post it here for sure.


Will do Sir
10/26/2010 1:50:02 AM EDT
[#30]
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planes. i don't want to buy 300$ plane and crash it and be out 300$


Yeah my roomie bought a $200 one and we lost it in the impenetrable Florida woods

It was fun flying it though!
10/26/2010 1:50:03 AM EDT
[#31]
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planes. i don't want to buy 300$ plane and crash it and be out 300$


Park Zone, also check out the RTF planes on NitroPlanes. They have a lot of planes, trainers included for under 200 bucks.
10/26/2010 6:48:01 AM EDT
[#32]
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are there some "beginner" ones?


The Easy star Parkflyer RTF comes with everything you need, has a high pusher prop so you can land rough without damaging your gear, and is durable.
One of the first VR flyers I saw videos of about a year ago flew one of these, so it can carry the camera and transmitter, but due to the wing configuration it is very easy to fly, and forgiving for the beginner, yet can do aerobatics for the intermediate to skilled. And this thing has a 54" wingspan.

At under $200, made by Multiplex, a German company (rare to not be Chinese) it is a great choice for the beginner.  $189 here: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/easystar_rtf.htm


Note that is is an RTF but still require some basic assembly. It is made of an almost indestructible foam that holds up really well. comes with radio and servos.


Here is a video of it VR flying - the guy who did this is one of the pioneers of hobbyist VR flying - he put together homemade VR goggles with a gyro that had pan and tilt when he moved his head, and the camera was in the cockpit, so it really was an amazing experience. his handle is  RichardVRFlyer  and he has a bunch of videos on youtube.

http://vimeo.com/1832255
10/26/2010 5:18:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Perfect plane for this:

http://www.nitroplanes.com/mq9.html
10/26/2010 5:48:03 PM EDT
[#34]
lots of good information can be found here:

http://fpvpilot.com/GettingStarted.aspx
10/27/2010 4:40:16 PM EDT
[#35]
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lots of good information can be found here:

http://fpvpilot.com/GettingStarted.aspx


Good info here as well:

Link
10/27/2010 5:00:07 PM EDT
[#36]
I know nothing about this hobby but it looks awesome.



One question: What about 'over the horizon' radio contact?




10/27/2010 5:16:48 PM EDT
[#37]
1:35-1:55!!!

10/27/2010 5:22:16 PM EDT
[#38]
I've always wanted to try that. The most we do now is mount cameras on RC cars and cruise down sidewalks and trails chasing squirrels and the occasional cat. Not as complicated as flying... and not as fun. I
10/27/2010 7:22:30 PM EDT
[#39]
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I know nothing about this hobby but it looks awesome.

One question: What about 'over the horizon' radio contact?



I think its just a matter of transmitter power and LOS
10/27/2010 7:49:21 PM EDT
[#40]
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someone fill me in, why is this illegal?

in most cities it is against the law to fly  r/c planes over roads ad shit.  it's just a fine though.  
 


Ah, I thought it had something to do with the video equipment attached to the plane.


That looks like some serious fun. Could be extremely useful for scouting elk.





Extremely useful for scouting our southern border.  

What does a rig like that cost?

Instead of the multi million we are spending on the military type UAVs

10/27/2010 8:03:24 PM EDT
[#41]
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I think it's mostly illegal...but it's cool to see the setups these guys are using i.e. headtrackers


That video was not taken in the US. IIRC, it's a European on vacation somewhere in south america. He's a member on a R/C site I belong to.

And it's not illegal. You can do things with a UAV that are illegal, but the FAA has not made anything involving UAV operation specifically illegal.
10/27/2010 8:04:30 PM EDT
[#42]
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LMAO, are they crashing those into random peoples open windows and stuff?


No, it's the pilots landing them, controlled crash

Here's another of one getting chased by a police helicopter link


The airplanes are made of indestructible foam and are powered by low powered electric motors. You can crash them into just about anything and they are still airworthy.
10/27/2010 8:06:32 PM EDT
[#43]
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someone fill me in, why is this illegal?


It's not, it's called VR flying and it is becoming more popular than ever.

The only thing that can be illegal is if your video cam transmitter exceeds FCC limits. There are quite a few on ebay that do, shipped straight from china to your doorstep and it is not really enforced. Beyond that, perfectly legal. FCC transmitter reg require your transmitter to be ridiculously weak, limiting the range of the video transmission. The R/C radio will likely have a greater range than most legal video transmitters. This is why many fudge on this part a little bit. As you could well imagine it would be very difficult to enforce. Wsie to fly any R/C out of city limits anyway if possible,  interference can be a problem. Oddly enough, in Canada, where this really started as a hobby, the transmission power limits are more reasonable.

Personally I think it would be fun as hell. I tried it with a cheaper setup (video feed to portable TV) but it was too hard to fly using an R/C Helicopter.  (Shogun V2 clone)


The easy way around the low FCC limitations on transmission of high powered video signals is to get a HAM license. It's not hard to do, and then you can basically do what you want because it's just another form of Amatuer Television as far as the FCC is concerned.

Dave (KD8JNN)
10/27/2010 8:09:06 PM EDT
[#44]
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are there some "beginner" ones?


The "Beginner" airplanes make the best FPV platforms because they are slow and stable-it's the learning curve of flying from the cockpit, the technical hurdles of setting the radio gear and autopilot up etc. that make it difficult.

If you are the kind who has a hard time with technical manuals, it will be a steep learning curve. If you are the type who can't program a VCR, just forget about it and enjoy the Youtube vids.