[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Calling in sick (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 10/21/2010 11:23:02 PM EDT
| What is your view on calling in sick, Do you actually have to be sick? Do you sometimes call in sick just for a day off work? If you have a bunch of sick days that have to be used by the end of the year or they are lost should you use them even if you aren't sick? What say the hive? |
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If I have to be sick, I have to schedule it 2 months in advance. In order for me to be sick, I have to be bed with a fever, barely able to move. Otherwise, if they can't find a replacement for me, I have to hobble on in.
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| I was just curious to see what others would say. At my job I get 24 days paid off plus company holidays. We can only carry 5 days over. Since I'm a single dude I don't take many days off. In fact, right now I have about 2 weeks I gotta take off before next year on top of the 1 week I can roll over plus company holidays. I hate taking sick days if I'm not sick but shit I don't know how else to burn them up right now. |
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My company stresses every year to use the week sick time as it doesn't roll over the next year....if you don't use it then they give you a bond of I forget $$$ value...
I use my sick time over my vacation time as I get paid overtime..... Generally every so often I'll take a day off without pay as I don't want to use vacation time and I don't want to waste sick pay. |
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I get paid sick time, but rarely use it. If I call off, it's because I'm barely able to function. I've used 8 hours of sick time this year, and I think only took one day last year as well (8 hours). On the flip-side, I've worked with people who would call off as soon as they had enough time to take a whole day. People had worked for the same agency for years longer than I who had a vacation balance of 0. I hope they never get seriously ill, but if they do - I hope I never hear them crying about not having any sick time. |
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i dont get sick days or vacation, and have to work most holidays.... fuk it, just means i take as much time as i want off and nobody can say shit cuz they arent paying me that day..... ive taken several days off and when i go back to work my boss always asks where i was....my reply "did you pay me for yesterday?" |
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We don't have "sick days" per se. We have personal days for those minor illnesses that happen, and we have disability days for more serious stuff.Use of the disability time off requires medical documentation. Personal days are for any sort of short-notice personal leave requirements, including illnesses not requiring a doctors visit, that falls outside of regularly scheduled vacations.
If you're going to call in sick then yes, you should be sick. Its not ethical if you do otherwise. |
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If they are paid days, and you can't cash them out, and they don't accrue year after year, then use them up. It would suck if someone has to cover for you, or if a partner has to be alone if you aren't there, but what else can you do? If either is the case, then everyone should be doing the same anyway so it shouldn't matter.
Now, if the sick days aren't paid, or do accrue, or can be cashed out, then there is no point in calling in sick when you aren't I've only called in twice in nearly seven years at this job (start a new one next week). However, we get PTO and not sick days. The PTO accrues and is cashed out upon exit. My new job you get two weeks vacation a year and they don't roll over, so for sure I'll be using that time even though I almost never even take days off (young, single, and able to work that's why). |
I've ALWAYS gone to work sick. The only times I've ever called in to work, were the days that I was literally too sick to walk(absolutely delirious and dizzy with fever), let alone drive. Sadly, my employers would never freaking answer the damn phone or relay the information that I was calling in sick. So when I'd show back up at work the next day, they'd bitch me out even though they KNEW I had worked most of the week while pretty damn sick with fever.  Ok, what are my views on sick days? Well, you're going to be sick. You might as well make money while you're sick.
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Only time I have called off sick is when;
1. I'd be a risk to the health of fellow co-workers. 2. Couldn't move 3. In the hospital, close to dying. I may have taken 1 sick day at a previous company under the guise of being sick, but not relating to one of my above experiences. |
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i have called in sick once in seven years at my current job. I hve been sent home sick though. I always try and work through it but sometimes my boss makes me go home when i cough to the point i am running to the bathroom to puke. I value money over comfort and will work until they make me leave. |
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Taking off sick when you are not is simply this: theft. It should be a chargable offense. Misdemeanor on the 1st 3 offenses and then a felony after that. I am serious. Yes. I am. 
I bet you admire Stalin and Mao too. The employer should then only provide PTO to be used for days sick, vacation, or any personal time off requested. If they are providing sick time that will be paid and won't be rolled over into the next year and can't be cashed out, then it isn't theft. They can change the policy to provide only PTO to use for when you're sick, and extended sick leave/disability for more serious illness as long as there is documentation. In fact, where I work right now, that's how it's done. |
i agree, if you dont come into work becuase you have anything less than a severed limb or ebola then the government should strip you of your right to vote and own firearms.
Where i work i try like hell not to call in sick. But if im exceptionally tired or moderately sick enough that i have lost my edge or any level of perception i will call in sick because i figure my employer would rather have me at home in bed than barreling down the highway at speed in their $40,000 car or jumping into possible foot chases and gunfights half awake or coherent. Alot of guys will call me a pussy for that and say that they're a real man who has come to work with a 104 degree fever and with heart conditions and stuff. Those are probably the same guys that wont see the out of control semi coming for them or the knife coming out of a crack heads pocket until a half a second after its too late. |
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Never heard of it.
I never miss a shift... because no matter how bad I might feel, there are patients who are sicker than I am. I've worked any number of shifts with an IV in my arm, dragging a pole behind me. Working in the ER radically skews your perspective on what constitutes "sick." |
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i agree, if you dont come into work becuase you have anything less than a severed limb or ebola then the government should strip you of your right to vote and own firearms.
Where i work i try like hell not to call in sick. But if im exceptionally tired or moderately sick enough that i have lost my edge or any level of perception i will call in sick because i figure my employer would rather have me at home in bed than barreling down the highway at speed in their $40,000 car or jumping into possible foot chases and gunfights half awake or coherent. Alot of guys will call me a pussy for that and say that they're a real man who has come to work with a 104 degree fever and with heart conditions and stuff. Those are probably the same guys that wont see the out of control semi coming for them or the knife coming out of a crack heads pocket until a half a second after its too late. Are you a cop? |
I used to view those who took sick time but were not sick, as slackers, assmunches who were taking advantage of the company. But after a place I worked for over 10 years had layoffs, my opinion has changed. Guy's and gal's who were tapped for layoffs, were not allowed to use any sicktime after being notified of the upcoming layoff. Many of these people had 1000 plus hours of sick time saved up. They all got fucked because the law says you only get payed for your vacation time, not sick time. So the company fucked every single employee who showed up on time, everyday. You earned it. Take it whenever you want.
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| I've only called in sick once in the last 35 years. It was a 4 day stint in the hospital with double pneumonia. That was about 6 years ago. I've gotten it twice since then but both of those times its been over the holidays so it hasn't been work related. I think of of as the jelly of the month club, the gift that keeps on giving. I'm not opposed to people using them when they are sick. I'd rather they be home then beside me but I'm not about abusing the system either. My group is very small now and we've doubled our workloads to compensate for it. The workload gets heavier as people are out. Besides that, between the company holidays, vacation time and other company benefits, there really isn't a good reason to call in, and that's just my opinion, unless your really sick. |
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We have the so-called "PTO" system, where you get X number of weeks every year plus X floating holidays.
If you don't use the floating holidays in the year they are given, you lose them. And you can only roll over so many PTO days to the next year. Your PTO is your PTO. You can use it for sick days and vacation. There are no separate sick days and vacation days. I use it up every year. If I'm sick, I say I'm taking PTO. If I want a vacation, I say I'm taking PTO. |
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i agree, if you dont come into work becuase you have anything less than a severed limb or ebola then the government should strip you of your right to vote and own firearms.
Where i work i try like hell not to call in sick. But if im exceptionally tired or moderately sick enough that i have lost my edge or any level of perception i will call in sick because i figure my employer would rather have me at home in bed than barreling down the highway at speed in their $40,000 car or jumping into possible foot chases and gunfights half awake or coherent. Alot of guys will call me a pussy for that and say that they're a real man who has come to work with a 104 degree fever and with heart conditions and stuff. Those are probably the same guys that wont see the out of control semi coming for them or the knife coming out of a crack heads pocket until a half a second after its too late. Are you a cop? no im an exceptionally cool mall cop. they call me paul blart. |
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We have the so-called "PTO" system, where you get X number of weeks every year plus X floating holidays. If you don't use the floating holidays in the year they are given, you lose them. And you can only roll over so many PTO days to the next year. Your PTO is your PTO. You can use it for sick days and vacation. There are no separate sick days and vacation days. I use it up every year. If I'm sick, I say I'm taking PTO. If I want a vacation, I say I'm taking PTO. I think this is how it should be done. Its much simpler this way. |
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i agree, if you dont come into work becuase you have anything less than a severed limb or ebola then the government should strip you of your right to vote and own firearms.
Where i work i try like hell not to call in sick. But if im exceptionally tired or moderately sick enough that i have lost my edge or any level of perception i will call in sick because i figure my employer would rather have me at home in bed than barreling down the highway at speed in their $40,000 car or jumping into possible foot chases and gunfights half awake or coherent. Alot of guys will call me a pussy for that and say that they're a real man who has come to work with a 104 degree fever and with heart conditions and stuff. Those are probably the same guys that wont see the out of control semi coming for them or the knife coming out of a crack heads pocket until a half a second after its too late. Are you a cop? no im an exceptionally cool mall cop. they call me paul blart. haha i call bullshit. you seem cool for a cop. when i got arrested he didn't really have the same sense of humor. |
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I was just curious to see what others would say. At my job I get 24 days paid off plus company holidays. We can only carry 5 days over. Since I'm a single dude I don't take many days off. In fact, right now I have about 2 weeks I gotta take off before next year on top of the 1 week I can roll over plus company holidays. I hate taking sick days if I'm not sick but shit I don't know how else to burn them up right now. Burn them buddy. It's free money |
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I used to view those who took sick time but were not sick, as slackers, assmunches who were taking advantage of the company. But after a place I worked for over 10 years had layoffs, my opinion has changed. Guy's and gal's who were tapped for layoffs, were not allowed to use any sicktime after being notified of the upcoming layoff. Many of these people had 1000 plus hours of sick time saved up. They all got fucked because the law says you only get payed for your vacation time, not sick time. So the company fucked every single employee who showed up on time, everyday. You earned it. Take it whenever you want.that's theft (by the company)
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| I call in sick if I feel sick. Doesn't have to be death's door. That is what they are for, and I use them. If I have extras I don't fake an illness to use them. My job has a crew of around 20 guys who do what I do, they all like overtime, and no one is screwed when someone is out sick. |
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I can get up to 52 weeks of sick time in a year. That being said I think I have missed two days in the last 10 years. Before that I had a 13 year stretch of never using one. Whatever happened to concepts like personal integrity, honor etc? I think it was outsourced - along with the jobs sent to India |
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If I think I am capable of spreading my illness I stay home. My company does not give a set number of sick days and they actively promote either working from home or taking a sick day if you are ill. Working at a plant with 3k people any cold or sniffle can spread rapidly and affect the productivity.
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Quoted: Taking off sick when you are not is simply this: theft. It should be a chargable offense. Misdemeanor on the 1st 3 offenses and then a felony after that. I am serious. Yes. I am. I think you should put the crack pipe down and spend a few weeks in a rehab facility. Your sick time is factored into your salary, therefore companies who have a use/lose policy are "stealing" from employess who maintain a perfect attendence, but according to some people on ARFCOM that type of theft is OK because you agreed to it by accepting a job there.
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Calling in sick is incredibly disruptive. Unless you work a job where you are an instantly replaceable cog, you will fuck up production (or whatever) when you call in. That's fine if you're actually sick, but if you just want some me time off you need to man up and schedule that shit. If your employer encourages this by separating paid sick days and vacation days and not rolling them over or paying them off, they are morons.
I am working with my employer (who's on a PTO system, vacation and sick days combined) trying to convince employees not to call in sick for BS reasons because absenteeism is kicking our ass. We're considering going from a very sweet 4 day/10 hour work schedule back to the 5/8 grind just to get those two hours back per call in. |
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Quoted: Calling in sick is incredibly disruptive. Unless you work a job where you are an instantly replaceable cog, you will fuck up production (or whatever) when you call in. That's fine if you're actually sick, but if you just want some me time off you need to man up and schedule that shit. If your employer encourages this by separating paid sick days and vacation days and not rolling them over or paying them off, they are morons. I am working with my employer (who's on a PTO system, vacation and sick days combined) trying to convince employees not to call in sick for BS reasons because absenteeism is kicking our ass. We're considering going from a very sweet 4 day/10 hour work schedule back to the 5/8 grind just to get those two hours back per call in. |
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Quoted: Interesting to see the viewpoints from the union and entitlement crowds here. I'm not a fan of calling in sick, unless I can't physically preform my duties. YMMV I'm not union or part of the entitlement crowd. If sick leave is part of my compensation package I'm using it. If they company does not want to provide paid time off I negoatiate for a higher wage/salary which is exactly what happened at the last company I worked for when they phased out personal days as a result of buying out another company. |
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Calling in sick is incredibly disruptive. Unless you work a job where you are an instantly replaceable cog, you will fuck up production (or whatever) when you call in. That's fine if you're actually sick, but if you just want some me time off you need to man up and schedule that shit. If your employer encourages this by separating paid sick days and vacation days and not rolling them over or paying them off, they are morons. I am working with my employer (who's on a PTO system, vacation and sick days combined) trying to convince employees not to call in sick for BS reasons because absenteeism is kicking our ass. We're considering going from a very sweet 4 day/10 hour work schedule back to the 5/8 grind just to get those two hours back per call in. Fair enough, how does separating sick days and vacation days and not rolling them over and not paying them off benefit your employer? |