Posted: 10/20/2010 4:24:41 AM EDT
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I swear by the stuff, I never use my wipers anymore. In fact my wipers have to be replaced from dry rot.
If your are a first time user it is best to buy the winshield wiper additive first to change your regular washer fluid to rain x before you apply regular rain x to your car windows. Your regular washer fluid will remove the rain x treatment. It is really nice to drive in the rain without winshield wipers flapping back and fourth. |
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DO NOT USE RAIN-X. It contains ammonia and can cause delamination of auto windshield glass, where the layers separate and the glass loses integrity. It happened to my wife's jeep windshield and I was shown other cases of it happening by a master glass technician we're friends with.
Aquapel is a much better product. Same effect, same price, no ammonia, no delamination. |
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DO NOT USE RAIN-X. It contains ammonia and can cause delamination of auto windshield glass, where the layers separate and the glass loses integrity. It happened to my wife's jeep windshield and I was shown other cases of it happening by a master glass technician we're friends with. Aquapel is a much better product. Same effect, same price, no ammonia, no delamination. I have never heard of this on real glass....but knew that Rain-X was bad for plastic. dvo |
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Quoted: DO NOT USE RAIN-X. It contains ammonia and can cause delamination of auto windshield glass, where the layers separate and the glass loses integrity. It happened to my wife's jeep windshield and I was shown other cases of it happening by a master glass technician we're friends with. Aquapel is a much better product. Same effect, same price, no ammonia, no delamination. Maybe your Jeep just had a shitty piece of glass. I've used Rain-X on every vehicle I've ever owned, in FL in the extreme heat & torrential rains. All my vehicles would push close to 200k miles 10+ years before I'd get rid of them. I never had any such glass problems. I've used bottles of the stuff, & I use the Rain-X brand washer fluid. I've never smelled ammonia in the stuff just alcohol. BTW, Windex contains ammonia so you better not use it to clean your windows  |
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DO NOT USE RAIN-X. It contains ammonia and can cause delamination of auto windshield glass, where the layers separate and the glass loses integrity. It happened to my wife's jeep windshield and I was shown other cases of it happening by a master glass technician we're friends with. Aquapel is a much better product. Same effect, same price, no ammonia, no delamination. I have never heard of this on real glass....but knew that Rain-X was bad for plastic. dvo Ammonia will cause deterioration of the layer bonds between modern windshield glass, as some of the top layers (especially the topmost layer) are plastic derivatives. It's a form of safety glass, after all, so it has a more flexible plastic layer on both outer surfaces. The big problems are when Rain-x gets onto the edge of the windshield and is exposed to the sides of the laminate layers, where it can eat right in. Maybe your Jeep just had a shitty piece of glass.
Chrysler factory windshield, which is NAGS and NHTSA compliant. I've used Rain-X on every vehicle I've ever owned, in FL in the extreme heat & torrential rains. All my vehicles would push close to 200k miles 10+ years before I'd get rid of them.
Our jeeps are used, and they're both well over 15 years and 200k miles (92 Cherokee and 95 Grand Cherokee), both have new OEM windshields in the last two years. It may be partially age related, although I've heard from multiple glass techs who know what they're doing (Novus does not know what they're doing) NOT to use Rain-X on new windshields, either. I never had any such glass problems. I've used bottles of the stuff, & I use the Rain-X brand washer fluid. I've never smelled ammonia in the stuff just alcohol. BTW, Windex contains ammonia so you better not use it to clean your windows
Windex is not recommended for use on plastic or vehicle windshields because of the ammonia content. It's perfectly fine for glass tables, mirrors, and house windows, but not for safety glass like vehicle windshields because they contain plastic in the laminate. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: DO NOT USE RAIN-X. It contains ammonia and can cause delamination of auto windshield glass, where the layers separate and the glass loses integrity. It happened to my wife's jeep windshield and I was shown other cases of it happening by a master glass technician we're friends with. Aquapel is a much better product. Same effect, same price, no ammonia, no delamination. I have never heard of this on real glass....but knew that Rain-X was bad for plastic. dvo Ammonia will cause deterioration of the layer bonds between modern windshield glass, as some of the top layers (especially the topmost layer) are plastic derivatives. It's a form of safety glass, after all, so it has a more flexible plastic layer on both outer surfaces. The big problems are when Rain-x gets onto the edge of the windshield and is exposed to the sides of the laminate layers, where it can eat right in. Maybe your Jeep just had a shitty piece of glass. Chrysler factory windshield, which is NAGS and NHTSA compliant. I've used Rain-X on every vehicle I've ever owned, in FL in the extreme heat & torrential rains. All my vehicles would push close to 200k miles 10+ years before I'd get rid of them. Our jeeps are used, and they're both well over 15 years and 200k miles (92 Cherokee and 95 Grand Cherokee), both have new OEM windshields in the last two years. It may be partially age related, although I've heard from multiple glass techs who know what they're doing (Novus does not know what they're doing) NOT to use Rain-X on new windshields, either. I never had any such glass problems. I've used bottles of the stuff, & I use the Rain-X brand washer fluid. I've never smelled ammonia in the stuff just alcohol. BTW, Windex contains ammonia so you better not use it to clean your windows Windex is not recommended for use on plastic or vehicle windshields because of the ammonia content. It's perfectly fine for glass tables, mirrors, and house windows, but not for safety glass like vehicle windshields because they contain plastic in the laminate. Eh, my glass is fully covered so I fail to see why should I give a shit? I've never seen glass delamination but if lightning strikes and it happens to me, I'll just replace the shit. |
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Are the windshield wipers rain x sells really worth it? or would i be fine sticking with the regular ones? Think I had some of their wipers and liked them a lot. But, I have had good rain performance (but not great life) from all of the premium wipers out there. dvo |
| Rain x is okay, however with the issues with the safety glass I use Aquapel. Aquapel does the same thing and is much easier to apply and remove than Rain X. Not only should you not use ammonia products on any safety glass but you shouldnt us eit on tinted windows as well. Find a good ammonia free cleaner and use Aquapel or you could always polish the glass. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: DO NOT USE RAIN-X. It contains ammonia and can cause delamination of auto windshield glass, where the layers separate and the glass loses integrity. It happened to my wife's jeep windshield and I was shown other cases of it happening by a master glass technician we're friends with. Aquapel is a much better product. Same effect, same price, no ammonia, no delamination. I have never heard of this on real glass....but knew that Rain-X was bad for plastic. dvo Ammonia will cause deterioration of the layer bonds between modern windshield glass, as some of the top layers (especially the topmost layer) are plastic derivatives. It's a form of safety glass, after all, so it has a more flexible plastic layer on both outer surfaces. The big problems are when Rain-x gets onto the edge of the windshield and is exposed to the sides of the laminate layers, where it can eat right in. Maybe your Jeep just had a shitty piece of glass. Chrysler factory windshield, which is NAGS and NHTSA compliant. I've used Rain-X on every vehicle I've ever owned, in FL in the extreme heat & torrential rains. All my vehicles would push close to 200k miles 10+ years before I'd get rid of them. Our jeeps are used, and they're both well over 15 years and 200k miles (92 Cherokee and 95 Grand Cherokee), both have new OEM windshields in the last two years. It may be partially age related, although I've heard from multiple glass techs who know what they're doing (Novus does not know what they're doing) NOT to use Rain-X on new windshields, either. I never had any such glass problems. I've used bottles of the stuff, & I use the Rain-X brand washer fluid. I've never smelled ammonia in the stuff just alcohol. BTW, Windex contains ammonia so you better not use it to clean your windows Windex is not recommended for use on plastic or vehicle windshields because of the ammonia content. It's perfectly fine for glass tables, mirrors, and house windows, but not for safety glass like vehicle windshields because they contain plastic in the laminate. So did you take this up with RainX, and did they pay for the windshields or was it just a scape goat? |
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Are the windshield wipers rain x sells really worth it? or would i be fine sticking with the regular ones? Give the premium versions a try. About $20 apiece at Walmart. I like them with the Rain X windshield washer fluid. Really helps with the bug problem, which is a big problem here. Try thisto clean your windshield by hand. Strips the glass absolutely clean. |
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Quoted: Are the windshield wipers rain x sells really worth it? or would i be fine sticking with the regular ones? I've used them a couple of times and they are OK, but aren't anything special. I haven't noticed much better performance in the long run between expensive brands (e.g. Bosch) and less expensive brands. I've gotten into the habit of changing out the blades everytime I do an oil change so lately I just buy the cheaper brands. |
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Quoted: Anyone try applying with a buffer? I love rainx, but it takes a bit of polishing to get the residue off. My arms/hands can't handle that. I also tried some of the interior rainx fog preventer on our bathroom mirror. Doesn't work.  Use shaving cream on the bathroom mirror. Smear it on, then wipe off with a dry towel or microfiber. |
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I've always used Rain-X and have never seen any delamination problems with my windshields. However, it seems that Rain-X wears off pretty fast.
I just recently bought some Aquapel to try. Supposedly it lasts a lot longer, and it better for how expensive it is. We'll see... As far as wipers go, I don't know about the Rain-X wipers, but have always been curious. However, I am a little turned off by the fact that they use rubber blades. I use PIAA wipers from Tire Rack and the blades are silicone. Silicone lasts MUCH longer than rubber and the silicone itself will coat the windshield so that water beads up on it, just like Rain-X. In my experience they last a LOT longer than any other wiper blade I've used. I got about two years of good performance out of mine, even went a third year before the the water beading effect started to wear off and they started leaving some streaks on the windshield. They never chattered at all. I just replaced the blades on mine and they are good to go again. |
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That reminds me that I need to switch over to the winter blend of washer fluid that doesn't freeze instead of the summer time bug stuff. Has anyone tried the interior anti-fog stuff made by rain-x? See my post above. Didn't work on my bathroom mirror. have yet to apply internally to my vehicular unit. |
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Quoted: Quoted: That reminds me that I need to switch over to the winter blend of washer fluid that doesn't freeze instead of the summer time bug stuff. Has anyone tried the interior anti-fog stuff made by rain-x? See my post above. Didn't work on my bathroom mirror. have yet to apply internally to my vehicular unit. I tried it once... It made MORE fog develop  So...thinking i had applied it wrong, I wiped down the glass w/ steel wool and glass cleaner and reapplied perfectly as per the directions on the bottle... ...same thing  It leaves some kind of oily type residue; no matter what i tried, defrosters, no defroster, heat, cold air, etc...it seriously made the windows fog more.I just drive w/ the windows cracked...that seems to work best. Speed |
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DO NOT USE RAIN-X. It contains ammonia and can cause delamination of auto windshield glass, where the layers separate and the glass loses integrity. It happened to my wife's jeep windshield and I was shown other cases of it happening by a master glass technician we're friends with. Aquapel is a much better product. Same effect, same price, no ammonia, no delamination. I have never heard of this on real glass....but knew that Rain-X was bad for plastic. dvo Ammonia will cause deterioration of the layer bonds between modern windshield glass, as some of the top layers (especially the topmost layer) are plastic derivatives. It's a form of safety glass, after all, so it has a more flexible plastic layer on both outer surfaces. The big problems are when Rain-x gets onto the edge of the windshield and is exposed to the sides of the laminate layers, where it can eat right in. Maybe your Jeep just had a shitty piece of glass.
Chrysler factory windshield, which is NAGS and NHTSA compliant. I've used Rain-X on every vehicle I've ever owned, in FL in the extreme heat & torrential rains. All my vehicles would push close to 200k miles 10+ years before I'd get rid of them.
Our jeeps are used, and they're both well over 15 years and 200k miles (92 Cherokee and 95 Grand Cherokee), both have new OEM windshields in the last two years. It may be partially age related, although I've heard from multiple glass techs who know what they're doing (Novus does not know what they're doing) NOT to use Rain-X on new windshields, either. I never had any such glass problems. I've used bottles of the stuff, & I use the Rain-X brand washer fluid. I've never smelled ammonia in the stuff just alcohol. BTW, Windex contains ammonia so you better not use it to clean your windows
Windex is not recommended for use on plastic or vehicle windshields because of the ammonia content. It's perfectly fine for glass tables, mirrors, and house windows, but not for safety glass like vehicle windshields because they contain plastic in the laminate. So did you take this up with RainX, and did they pay for the windshields or was it just a scape goat? Well I don't know about his issue but if my windshield goes bad my insurance Co. replaces it without deductible. So I use the hell out of rain x and love the stuff. I have never had a problem with the glass as I don't submerge the windshield in it. Just wipe it on. EBR666 |
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Anyone try applying with a buffer? I love rainx, but it takes a bit of polishing to get the residue off. My arms/hands can't handle that. I also tried some of the interior rainx fog preventer on our bathroom mirror. Doesn't work. Use shaving cream on the bathroom mirror. Smear it on, then wipe off with a dry towel or microfiber. Or a drop or two of any other soap/detergent. |
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That reminds me that I need to switch over to the winter blend of washer fluid that doesn't freeze instead of the summer time bug stuff. Has anyone tried the interior anti-fog stuff made by rain-x? I swear by the washer fluid but I did not enjoy success with the interior product. First, it produces a smeary greasy residue that is visible and distracting. Second, it doesn't magically eliminate fogging, it just causes the condensate to bead up into larger droplets. You still need to wipe them off or wait for the glass to warm up enough to evaporate them. The windshield washer fluid product is awesome. I don't even use my wipers at speed, it's fun to watch the water just dance up the glass and blow off into the slipstream. |
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Quoted: Rain x is okay, however with the issues with the safety glass I use Aquapel. Aquapel does the same thing and is much easier to apply and remove than Rain X. Not only should you not use ammonia products on any safety glass but you shouldnt us eit on tinted windows as well. Find a good ammonia free cleaner and use Aquapel or you could always polish the glass. So... Don't use it on the inside? Got it! |
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Rain x is okay, however with the issues with the safety glass I use Aquapel. Aquapel does the same thing and is much easier to apply and remove than Rain X. Not only should you not use ammonia products on any safety glass but you shouldnt us eit on tinted windows as well. Find a good ammonia free cleaner and use Aquapel or you could always polish the glass. So... Don't use it on the inside? Got it! Yep, and if you allready need a different cleaner for one side of the glass it is kind of silly to keep a second product for the other side. There are many affordable great ammonia free glass cleaners on the market. Stoner invisible glass Mequiars NXT glass cleaner Have used both of the above and they are both good. Should be able to find at local auto parts store (pep boys, auto zone etc) Aquapel actually makes cleaner too but I havent used it and dont see any reviews, looks like a fairly new product for them. |
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I'll put in my two cents:
I have Aquapel on all my autos/trucks, as well as those of all my family members, and most of my friends and parts of their families. Every time someone gets in one of these vehicles, and sees how well it works they end up wanting it for themselves. Currently Aquapel comes in single-use applicators for around $6 a piece. So, $6 to coat your windshield and possibly side windows, depending on size. BUT... The Aquapel on my truck is over 12 months old, and works BETTER than a brand new application of Rain-X. When I traded in my Mustang recently (sob!) the Aquapel on it was over 18 months old, and still working fine. I can't emphasize enough how nice it is to have better performance than Rain-X and to NEVER have to worry about remembering to reapply the stuff. You just do it once every year or so and you're good to go. Bonus: Aquapel contains NO SILICONE so it doesn't contaminate your paint, should you ever need to have your car repainted. The silicone in Rain-X makes prep before future painting a pain in the ass. Oh, that means you shouldn't use the Silicone Wipers with Aquapel, it works fine with plain old rubber wipers. In fact, my only serious bitch with Aquapel, other than the price, is that it does NOT work on plastic. At all. It bonds to glass in some special way and it simply won't bond to any common plastics, so I can't use it on my helmet visors. Try it... FluxPrism |