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9/28/2010 6:40:45 PM EDT
experts stumped as to who could be behind this....

Terrorist plot uncovered in Europe

By PAISLEY DODDS, AP
28 minutes ago

LONDON — Intelligence officials have intercepted a credible terror plot against Britain and France, raising security fears at the Eiffel Tower on Tuesday, but failing to raise the overall threat level in either country.

The Eiffel Tower was briefly evacuated Tuesday evening after officials received a bomb threat called in from a telephone booth. It was the second such alert at the monument in two weeks.

The warning came as French officials were put on alert for possible terror attacks. British officials, too, have been aware of a possible attack but the terror threat warning has not changed from "severe."

"There have been a succession of terror operations we've been dealing with over recent weeks but one to two that have preoccupied us," said one British government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of his work. "Still, it hasn't been to the degree that we have raised the threat level."

Another British official, who spoke on the same terms, would not confirm the plot was "al-Qaida inspired" but said there was an "Islamist connection" and that the plots were in an early stage. No other details were given.

Since the Sept. 11 terror attacks in the United States nine years ago, the terror group has moved outside of Afghanistan and Pakistan to other countries such as Somalia and Yemen.

German officials denied Tuesday they had intercepted threats, saying there had been no change to their threat level.

In Washington, a Western counterterrorism official said some missile strikes in a recent surge of attacks by unmanned U.S. drones in Pakistan were aimed at disrupting suspected terrorist plots aimed at Europe.

It wasn't known whether the drone attacks were related specifically to the plot that European authorities said they had intercepted.

The counterterrorism official said the targeted strikes were aimed at al-Qaida and other militant groups arrayed in Pakistan's tribal region near the Afghanistan border. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the details of the terror plot remain sensitive.

The Obama administration has intensified the use of drone-fired missiles in Pakistan's border area but this month there have been at least 21 attacks, more than double the highest number fired in any other single month.

A suspected U.S. missile strike on Tuesday killed four militants in northwest Pakistan's South Waziristan region, just across the border from Afghanistan, intelligence officials said. There was no word on the identities of those killed in the attack.

The counterterrorism official, who is familiar with the drone strikes and the details of the Europe terror plots, said Tuesday that the missile strikes in Pakistan are "a product of precise intelligence and precise weapons. We've been hitting targets that pose a threat to our troops in Afghanistan and terrorists plotting attacks in South Asia and beyond."

In Paris, French police on Tuesday closed off the surroundings of the Eiffel Tower, France's most visited monument. Officers pulled red-and-white police tape across a bridge leading over the Seine River to the monument. Officers stood guard.

Bomb experts combed through the 324-meter (1,063-foot) tower and found nothing unusual, the Paris police headquarters said. Tourists were let back inside about two hours after the structure was emptied.

Jean Dupeu, a 74-year-old Paris retiree, had planned to go to dinner in the tower but found himself looking for another restaurant.

"It's surely a bad joke," he said of the threat, adding, "Now is not a good time."

National Police Chief Frederic Pechenard said last week that authorities suspect al-Qaida's North African branch of plotting a bomb attack on a crowded location in France. His warning came after al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, or AQIM, claimed responsibility for the Sept. 16 abduction of five French nationals and two Africans in northern Niger.

The French parliament voted this month to ban burqa-style Islamic veils in France, a subject that has prompted warnings by AQIM. Counterterrorism officials say that is just one of several factors contributing to the heightened threat.

At the Eiffel Tower, an anonymous caller called in a warning to firefighters, the Paris police headquarters said. The company that runs the monument asked police to evacuate it.

Police responded to a similar false alert at the tower on Sept. 14, also following a phone threat. On Monday, the bustling Saint Lazare train station in Paris was briefly evacuated and searched.

As soon as the latest bomb alert ended, huge lines of eager tourists immediately formed under the tower.

Mike Yore, 43, of Orlando, Florida, was among those waiting in line at the 121-year-old iron monument.

"There's no bomb that can blow this thing up," he said.

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Associated Press writers Elaine Ganley in Paris and Adam Goldman in Washington contributed to this report.

9/28/2010 6:46:48 PM EDT
[#1]
Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.
9/28/2010 6:49:41 PM EDT
[#2]
Those wacky Presbyterians!
9/28/2010 6:49:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.


Knock it down on a busy day and it could kill a few hundred, tops. The symbolic value would be high, though.
9/28/2010 6:52:00 PM EDT
[#4]




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Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.




Knock it down on a busy day and it could kill a few hundred, tops. The symbolic value would be high, though.




Would definately be more that than a body count there.
9/28/2010 6:53:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Mike Yore, 43, of Orlando, Florida, was among those waiting in line at the 121-year-old iron monument.

"There's no bomb that can blow this thing up," he said.

Riiiiight. Pay attention much, Mike?
9/28/2010 6:53:58 PM EDT
[#6]
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Those wacky Presbyterians!


Yeah; they never know when enough is enough.
9/28/2010 6:55:16 PM EDT
[#7]
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Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.


Knock it down on a busy day and it could kill a few hundred, tops. The symbolic value would be high, though.


Symbolism is secondary to killing as many as possible and causing the biggest headache possible. I think the Paris underground is a much better choice for an attack, but I'm not a terrorist so what do I know.

And calling in a bomb threat? Definitely not Al Qaeda's MO.
9/28/2010 6:57:28 PM EDT
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Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.






Knock it down on a busy day and it could kill a few hundred, tops. The symbolic value would be high, though.



symbolical it would be worst for France than us losing world trade center. You can't build a new Eiffel Tower. We can build a new world trade. not sure why the hell we haven't




 
 
9/28/2010 6:57:30 PM EDT
[#9]
OMFG!!!!












The French still have telephone booths!!!
9/28/2010 6:59:30 PM EDT
[#10]





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OMFG!!!!
The French still have telephone booths!!!
I tried using those None of them work anymore.
 
9/28/2010 7:16:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
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Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.


Knock it down on a busy day and it could kill a few hundred, tops. The symbolic value would be high, though.


Symbolism is secondary to killing as many as possible and causing the biggest headache possible. I think the Paris underground is a much better choice for an attack, but I'm not a terrorist so what do I know.
<snip that>.


bf274,
Why would symbolism not be important. I would think it makes a statement.
583
9/28/2010 7:17:58 PM EDT
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Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.

Knock it down on a busy day and it could kill a few hundred, tops. The symbolic value would be high, though.

Symbolism is secondary to killing as many as possible and causing the biggest headache possible. I think the Paris underground is a much better choice for an attack, but I'm not a terrorist so what do I know.
And calling in a bomb threat? Definitely not Al Qaeda's MO.

It would be a effective diversion while AQ or their wannabes focus on another location with more people in a confined volume.    Last December there were plenty of highly-visible 3-man patrols in tourist areas including the tower, but the ones with magazines in their rifles were at main transportation hubs like Gare du Nord and CDG.
From a structural steel iron standpoint, I don't think knocking it down is realistic.
 
9/28/2010 7:22:53 PM EDT
[#13]



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Mike Yore, 43, of Orlando, Florida, was among those waiting in line at the 121-year-old iron monument.



"There's no bomb that can blow this thing up," he said.



Riiiiight. Pay attention much, Mike?



Must be a honors graduate of the "Rosie O'Donnell School of Engineering and Metallurgy"





 
9/28/2010 7:24:58 PM EDT
[#14]
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Having been to the Eiffel Tower, I have a hard time believing thats something Al Qaeda would want to hit. Hard to get a 'mass casualty' strike out of it.


Knock it down on a busy day and it could kill a few hundred, tops. The symbolic value would be high, though.


Symbolism is secondary to killing as many as possible and causing the biggest headache possible. I think the Paris underground is a much better choice for an attack, but I'm not a terrorist so what do I know.

And calling in a bomb threat? Definitely not Al Qaeda's MO.


Probably the baptists. You know how we hate people with steeples taller than our own.
9/28/2010 7:25:15 PM EDT
[#15]
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bf274,
Why would symbolism not be important. I would think it makes a statement.
583


Everything I've read about Al Qaeda's MO has indicated that their 'statement' is first and foremost death, then mayhem, and then symbolism. I can't think of a single Al Qaeda-linked attack where death and destruction weren't the top priorities. They want to scare a populace, not just make a statement. Knocking down buildings, killing large numbers of people, and paralyzing infrastructure accomplishes this. Knocking down an iron structure in and open area where people are at best loosely congregated isn't the most cost effective means of doing this.

And Al Qaeda would never call in a bomb. Ever. Thats amateur shit.
9/28/2010 7:32:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Everybody just needs to chill the fuck down.

This is not terrorism.  This is The Religion of Peace doing some good old fashion proselytizing.
9/28/2010 7:36:32 PM EDT
[#17]
hey! real life twisted metal 2!
9/28/2010 7:41:56 PM EDT
[#18]
False flag?
9/28/2010 7:45:45 PM EDT
[#19]



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Mike Yore, 43, of Orlando, Florida, was among those waiting in line at the 121-year-old iron monument.



"There's no bomb that can blow this thing up," he said.



Riiiiight. Pay attention much, Mike?



No bomb, but what about weaponized nanobots?



 
9/28/2010 7:48:03 PM EDT
[#20]
If someone did knock the eifel tower down, in the name of tolerence a mosque (community center) should be built on the rubble.

in the name of tolerence of course
9/28/2010 7:50:55 PM EDT
[#21]
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Mike Yore, 43, of Orlando, Florida, was among those waiting in line at the 121-year-old iron monument.

"There's no bomb that can blow this thing up," he said.

Riiiiight. Pay attention much, Mike?

No bomb, but what about weaponized nanobots?
 


YO JOE!!!
9/28/2010 7:53:38 PM EDT
[#22]
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Those wacky Presbyterians!
Amish I heard. A whole oxen drawn cart of C4.

9/28/2010 7:56:30 PM EDT
[#23]
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bf274,
Why would symbolism not be important. I would think it makes a statement.
583


Everything I've read about Al Qaeda's MO has indicated that their 'statement' is first and foremost death, then mayhem, and then symbolism. I can't think of a single Al Qaeda-linked attack where death and destruction weren't the top priorities. They want to scare a populace, not just make a statement. Knocking down buildings, killing large numbers of people, and paralyzing infrastructure accomplishes this. Knocking down an iron structure in and open area where people are at best loosely congregated isn't the most cost effective means of doing this.

And Al Qaeda would never call in a bomb. Ever. Thats amateur shit.


That's for sure.
9/28/2010 7:57:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Al Queda doesn't even make formal declarations of responsibility.  they let their actions speak for them.

That said, AQ has a hard on for sky scrapers.  Maybe it reminds them of islamic inadequecy.
9/28/2010 8:29:49 PM EDT
[#25]
The French would end up kicking all Muslims out of France if they hit the tower. I'm sure of it.