[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Such Generosity from the Democrats (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 8/12/2010 7:29:51 AM EDT
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Vernon Baker was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroism in defense of this country during WWII. So, he gets to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Last month he died at the age of 90. His wife is still alive, but she is too poor to afford the trip to out to Arlington to see her husband buried. So along comes US Representative Walt Minnick (D-ID) who donates his frequent flier miles. The thing is that Walt Minnick is the former CEO of a timber company and he's worth about $16 million. Now here's a guy who's got all kinds of money, and as a politician...a DEMOCRAT no less, here's a guy who has the perfect opportunity to make the whole state of Idaho love him like he was a cross between Mickey Mantle and Captain America. All he has to do is spend a couple grand of his millions to put some old lady on an airplane, stick her in a fancy hotel for a couple days, maybe take a couple pictures etc. After all, her husband DID win the Medal of Honor. It was his big chance to ensure his re-election without even having to campaign. What does he do instead? Donates his frequent flier miles. Such generosity from these Democrats. http://www.ktvb.com/news/Widow-of-Medal-of-Honor-recipient-cant-afford-to-attend-Arlington-burial-100447779.html |
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Quoted: Long story short... Vernon Baker was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroism in defense of this country during WWII. So, he gets to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Last month he died at the age of 90. His wife is still alive, but she is too poor to afford the trip to out to Arlington to see her husband buried. So along comes US Representative Walt Minnick (D-ID) who donates his frequent flier miles. The thing is that Walt Minnick is the former CEO of a timber company and he's worth about $16 million. Now here's a guy who's got all kinds of money, and as a politician...a DEMOCRAT no less, here's a guy who has the perfect opportunity to make the whole state of Idaho love him like he was a cross between Mickey Mantle and Captain America. All he has to do is spend a couple grand of his millions to put some old lady on an airplane, stick her in a fancy hotel for a couple days, maybe take a couple pictures etc. After all, her husband DID win the Medal of Honor. It was his big chance to ensure his re-election without even having to campaign. What does he do instead? Donates his frequent flier miles. Such generosity from these Democrats. http://www.ktvb.com/news/Widow-of-Medal-of-Honor-recipient-cant-afford-to-attend-Arlington-burial-100447779.html What do you bet he got the flier mile by riding the sky on the taxpayers dime! If she was in his district, it was the least he could do. Really, the least. Some Republican should up the ante and send her first class.
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As long as she gets there, and he made it happen, I don't really care if he used his frequent flier miles or paid out-of-pocket. It's the same result for her, and that's what matters. Stop defending him. He's being a cheapskate and trying to look like a hero. Hell, the article mentions Minnick's name more often than the MoH winner's or the old lady's. I'll bet she winds up flying coach and staying at a Red Roof Inn. Conversely, he was feeling awfully generous when he voted to extend unemployment to two years. |
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Who gives a shit how he got her tickets? The guy did a good thing, and probably had more than enough miles to cover her trip. No reason to stir up shit on this one. Find a real issue to bitch about. There are plenty. You can't see past your own nose can you? Walt often times feels really, really generous when he's handling YOUR money... Walt Minnick Is Not Willing to Repeal Obamacare |
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Long story short... <snip> After all, her husband DID win the Medal of Honor. It was his big chance to ensure his re-election without even having to campaign. What does he do instead? Donates his frequent flier miles. You don't WIN the Medal of Honor. It is something AWARDED / EARNED. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration awarded by the United States government. It is bestowed on members of the United States armed forces who distinguish themselves "conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his or her life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States." |
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Then start a thread bitching about that. I'll bitch about both at the same time. It's a pet peeve of mine. These assholes go to Congress loaded down with money and then they spend years and years taxing and spending us into poverty while they line their pockets through crooked business deals and get other people to pay for keeping them in office, and they all make like they're some champion for The Little Guy. |
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Notably absent from the story is a Republican stepping up and paying for the trip, so to me it's looking like a bit of a glass house situation. Well what do you expect from the pro-Dem media? FYI - It was the Republican congressional delegation of Idaho that worked overtime to make sure Vernon Baker's service did not go unrewarded and that he got the recognition he deserved. But like you say - the paper didn't mention that, so I guess it never happened, right? 
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Minnick is a typical self-promoting Democrat, using taxpayer dollars to *give* to others, then trumpeting his *noble* deed all over the press (again using taxpayer funds).
He is a hypocrite of the first order - pretends to be conservative to get votes (the public Minnick) but behind the scenes actually bends over backwards to ensure Obama's treasonous socialist agenda is shoved down our throats (the real Minnick). |
| If some of my tax $$$ is going to be spent on the wife of a MOH holder to attend her husband's funeral I am all for it. I hope she is treated like royalty. Kudos for the Dem or anyone else that helps to get her there. Beats the heck out of the money wasted on the 1st Wookie's "mission of mercy" to Spain. |
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As long as she gets there, and he made it happen, I don't really care if he used his frequent flier miles or paid out-of-pocket. It's the same result for her, and that's what matters. Stop defending him. He's being a cheapskate and trying to look like a hero. Hell, the article mentions Minnick's name more often than the MoH winner's or the old lady's. I'll bet she winds up flying coach and staying at a Red Roof Inn. Conversely, he was feeling awfully generous when he voted to extend unemployment to two years.
I'm not "defending" him - I'm pointing out that the IMPORTANT ISSUE here is whether the widow gets to the funeral. The fact that you want to make the guy who made that possible look like a bad guy has nothing to do with the fact that HE made it possible for her to get there. The fact that he is a millionaire has nothing to do with anything, and is a ludicrous point to even bring up. What did YOU do to help her get there? |
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I don't think the OP's post is going the way he thought. Small wonder TX is running neck and neck with CA in this poll.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1077178 |
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Quoted: Quoted: If a Democrat cured AIDS, you whiny bitches would post about how they should have cured cancer instead. He did a good deed. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. What exactly did YOU do to help her? I don't get it either, well, majority of AIDS patients made a conscious choice to engage in activity that exposed them to it |
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As long as she gets there, and he made it happen, I don't really care if he used his frequent flier miles or paid out-of-pocket. It's the same result for her, and that's what matters. Stop defending him. He's being a cheapskate and trying to look like a hero. Hell, the article mentions Minnick's name more often than the MoH winner's or the old lady's. I'll bet she winds up flying coach and staying at a Red Roof Inn. Conversely, he was feeling awfully generous when he voted to extend unemployment to two years. So tell us Mr. Holier than though....how much did YOU donate, and why is he any more obligated to give her charity than you? You're off base here buddy. |
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Quoted: I don't think the OP's post is going the way he thought. Small wonder TX is running neck and neck with CA in this poll. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1077178 It might also be because they are the 2 most populous states. |
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Long story short... Vernon Baker was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroism in defense of this country during WWII. So, he gets to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Last month he died at the age of 90. His wife is still alive, but she is too poor to afford the trip to out to Arlington to see her husband buried. So along comes US Representative Walt Minnick (D-ID) who donates his frequent flier miles. The thing is that Walt Minnick is the former CEO of a timber company and he's worth about $16 million. Now here's a guy who's got all kinds of money, and as a politician...a DEMOCRAT no less, here's a guy who has the perfect opportunity to make the whole state of Idaho love him like he was a cross between Mickey Mantle and Captain America. All he has to do is spend a couple grand of his millions to put some old lady on an airplane, stick her in a fancy hotel for a couple days, maybe take a couple pictures etc. After all, her husband DID win the Medal of Honor. It was his big chance to ensure his re-election without even having to campaign. What does he do instead? Donates his frequent flier miles. Such generosity from these Democrats. http://www.ktvb.com/news/Widow-of-Medal-of-Honor-recipient-cant-afford-to-attend-Arlington-burial-100447779.html  I am truely dissappointed in my fellow Idahoan Dem or not.
Vernon Baker was from my home town of St. Maries, Idaho. My Mom delivered his mail for years and he and his wife are truely some of the best people on the planet. I was home for my 10 year high school reunion when he died. He will truely be missed. 
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As long as she gets there, and he made it happen, I don't really care if he used his frequent flier miles or paid out-of-pocket. It's the same result for her, and that's what matters. Stop defending him. He's being a cheapskate and trying to look like a hero. Hell, the article mentions Minnick's name more often than the MoH winner's or the old lady's. I'll bet she winds up flying coach and staying at a Red Roof Inn. Conversely, he was feeling awfully generous when he voted to extend unemployment to two years.
I'm not "defending" him - I'm pointing out that the IMPORTANT ISSUE here is whether the widow gets to the funeral. The fact that you want to make the guy who made that possible look like a bad guy has nothing to do with the fact that HE made it possible for her to get there. The fact that he is a millionaire has nothing to do with anything, and is a ludicrous point to even bring up. What did YOU do to help her get there? You're delusional. The point, which you refuse to get, is that he's being played up to be Saint Michael of Idaho for giving up so FF miles. Read the article. They make it sound like he stepped in and made this wonderful sacrifice to help this poor widow see her husband receive his military burial. The fact is that it's just another rich Democrat politician who says one thing and does another. He's real generous with our paychecks. Not so much with his own fortune. |
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I don't think the OP's post is going the way he thought. Small wonder TX is running neck and neck with CA in this poll. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1077178 First off, this thread is going pretty much exactly like I expected it would. AR15.com LOVES to defend "The Rich", regardless of the circumstances. I had no delusions that everyone would jump on the bandwagon with me and start criticizing this guy, especially when I pointed out the fact that he was wealthy. Go take a look at some of my previous threads. Bill Gates went on C-SPAN promoting Death Panels, and has helped the Communist Chinese oppress the Chinese people by writing special version of it's software which prevent people from searching for terms like "Liberty" and "Freedom" on the internet. But AR15.com LOVES him because he's a business man. I am showing AR15.com it's own hypocrisy. Here's a guy who has voted to spend all kinds of tax payer money, a guy that the Left hoped would break The Right's strangle hold on politics in Idaho (do a google search and you'll see the hopes they had for him). This guy is a multi-millionaire, but they can't accurately estimate his wealth because he has his assets all twisted around. Congress estimates his wealth between -$1,250,000 and $16,000,000. But he's a saint because he gave up a couple of Frequent Flyer miles. |
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Long story short... Vernon Baker was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroism in defense of this country during WWII. So, he gets to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Last month he died at the age of 90. His wife is still alive, but she is too poor to afford the trip to out to Arlington to see her husband buried. So along comes US Representative Walt Minnick (D-ID) who donates his frequent flier miles. The thing is that Walt Minnick is the former CEO of a timber company and he's worth about $16 million. Now here's a guy who's got all kinds of money, and as a politician...a DEMOCRAT no less, here's a guy who has the perfect opportunity to make the whole state of Idaho love him like he was a cross between Mickey Mantle and Captain America. All he has to do is spend a couple grand of his millions to put some old lady on an airplane, stick her in a fancy hotel for a couple days, maybe take a couple pictures etc. After all, her husband DID win the Medal of Honor. It was his big chance to ensure his re-election without even having to campaign. What does he do instead? Donates his frequent flier miles. Such generosity from these Democrats. http://www.ktvb.com/news/Widow-of-Medal-of-Honor-recipient-cant-afford-to-attend-Arlington-burial-100447779.html i always thought moh recipients and their spouses flew free. |
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I couldn't care less what the media says or how it portrays him. I don't even care where he got the miles from. The simple fact here is you are demonizing a man that provided means of transportation to the widow and family of a CMoH recipient that couldn't otherwise attend his funeral.
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As long as she gets there, and he made it happen, I don't really care if he used his frequent flier miles or paid out-of-pocket. It's the same result for her, and that's what matters. Stop defending him. He's being a cheapskate and trying to look like a hero. Hell, the article mentions Minnick's name more often than the MoH winner's or the old lady's. I'll bet she winds up flying coach and staying at a Red Roof Inn. Conversely, he was feeling awfully generous when he voted to extend unemployment to two years.
I'm not "defending" him - I'm pointing out that the IMPORTANT ISSUE here is whether the widow gets to the funeral. The fact that you want to make the guy who made that possible look like a bad guy has nothing to do with the fact that HE made it possible for her to get there. The fact that he is a millionaire has nothing to do with anything, and is a ludicrous point to even bring up. What did YOU do to help her get there? You're delusional. The point, which you refuse to get, is that he's being played up to be Saint Michael of Idaho for giving up so FF miles. Read the article. They make it sound like he stepped in and made this wonderful sacrifice to help this poor widow see her husband receive his military burial. The fact is that it's just another rich Democrat politician who says one thing and does another. He's real generous with our paychecks. Not so much with his own fortune. I'm the one who is delusional? That's rich. 
Look, we all get that you hate rich people, and banks, and corporations, and blah blah blah  - but the reality of the matter is that no matter how you slice it, this guy reached into his own pocket and helped this lady out. The fact that her ticket was purchased with his frequent flier miles instead of his money makes ZERO DIFFERENCE to the only thing that matters in this story, which is that she is now going to be able to make the funeral in Arlington.
Do I think the guy deserves to be worshipped and idolized because of it - no, absolutely not. But to deny that he did a decent and good thing, and to try to tear him down because of it, is pure bullshit. Also, I find your point to be a very confusing and inconsistent one. You original argument was that he should have GIVEN MORE and spent MORE of his own money to help her. But, you are also criticizing him for wanting CREDIT for having helped her - even though your original post says that he should have helped her more, and had some pictures taken with her, so he could get credit. So you are saying he's BAD for wanting credit for having helped her, but you are also saying that he should have given her more, so that he could have gotten more credit. 
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.... All he has to do is spend a couple grand of his millions to put some old lady on an airplane, stick her in a fancy hotel for a couple days, maybe take a couple pictures etc. After all, her husband DID win the Medal of Honor. It was his big chance to ensure his re-election without even having to campaign. So out of one side of your mouth you seem to be complaining that he's trying to manipulate the situation for his own benefit, and out of the other side of your mouth you are suggesting that he should have manipulated it MORE for his own benefit. Those are completely inconsistent statements. Which one of us is delusional again? |
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I couldn't care less what the media says or how it portrays him. I don't even care where he got the miles from. The simple fact here is you are demonizing a man that provided means of transportation to the widow and family of a CMoH recipient that couldn't otherwise attend his funeral. Grow up! But he's rich, so he should have given much more, comrade!! 
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Pfft! Heck I gave more to charity in 2008 than Joe Biden did, that gawdawful cheapskate! This dude gets a million dollars worth of publicity for donating some FF miles......... I get the point of your post. And I concur...he wants to claim to do the right thing.....$5000 worth of first class tickets and a couple nights at a hotel would be worth millions in publicity.... Mark 12:42-44 "And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living." That soldier gave his all for his brothers and this nation. And this politician, in typical Dem classiness, gives but a farthing. |
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I couldn't care less what the media says or how it portrays him. I don't even care where he got the miles from. The simple fact here is you are demonizing a man that provided means of transportation to the widow and family of a CMoH recipient that couldn't otherwise attend his funeral. Grow up! But he's rich, so he should have given much more, comrade!!
See, this is what I was talking about, blind support of "The Rich". You defend a guy who has voted in support of tax payer funded abortion, tax payer funded extensions to Unemployment and taxpayer funded loans to small businesses. He's a real generous guy...generous with YOUR money. He won't spend a nickle of his own to money to help this woman out. THAT is the point. He'll spend your money all day long. He really likes spending your money! He spends your money on all kinds of causes that he thinks are worthwhile. He spends your money every day. But he ain't spending HIS money, he's got it all hidden. |
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Congress estimates his wealth between -$1,250,000 and $16,000,000. How is this even relevent? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need? Or something like that? How is it relevant? Well, let's look at the fact that this Congressman has voted to support taxpayer funded abortions, extend unemployment and issue federal loans to small businesses...all with YOUR money. His money is all tied up though. No one knows for sure how much he has. He probably isn't even paying taxes if all he's doing is reporting losses. You need to pay taxes though. You need to fund all of his worthwhile causes. He'll give up his frequent flier miles for noble cause though. He's a generous guy that way. Good hearted Democrat he is. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Congress estimates his wealth between -$1,250,000 and $16,000,000. How is this even relevent? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need? Or something like that? I agree with you, but if you are going to buy publicity (which is what he is doing) at least splurge a little. I am surprised that someone like Rush or Hannity didn't pick this up quietly (and send her first class). To me that is the difference. I am sure that news story wasn't ferreted out by our ever vigilant press.
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What's so amazing to me is all these ".....well, at least he did something for her, where are the republicans....." types who can't see what this guy is really up to.
It's all a big contrived charade If Minnick was truly a generous person, could he have not done this incognito like a real man rather than calling up the media to blow his own horn? Is it sinking in yet, or are your gullets still full of the Democrat kool-aid? |
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Quoted: Coming from a guy who stopped paying his mortgageQuoted: As long as she gets there, and he made it happen, I don't really care if he used his frequent flier miles or paid out-of-pocket. It's the same result for her, and that's what matters. Stop defending him. He's being a cheapskate and trying to look like a hero. Hell, the article mentions Minnick's name more often than the MoH winner's or the old lady's. I'll bet she winds up flying coach and staying at a Red Roof Inn. Conversely, he was feeling awfully generous when he voted to extend unemployment to two years. |