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8/3/2010 11:54:00 PM EDT
Hero, jackass, good guy, asshole? what's your opinion on him?
8/3/2010 11:59:03 PM EDT
[#1]
medium shoot
8/4/2010 12:01:16 AM EDT
[#2]
I saw his police interrogation on TV, and he was one whiny crybaby, gasping and melting in tears.  Later of course he became a badass folk hero, made the white supremacist convention circuits out in the boonies, etc, etc, acting the swaggering tough guy.



It's not good for geeky electronic technicians to become vigilante gunslingers in NYC and then seek out like minded companions.



Frankengeek.






8/4/2010 12:03:08 AM EDT
[#3]
I think he had the right idea. He just went about it the wrong way.
8/4/2010 12:03:40 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I saw his police interrogation on TV, and he was one whiny crybaby, gasping and melting in tears.  Later of course he became a badass folk hero, made the white supremacist convention circuits out in the boonies, etc, etc, acting the swaggering tough guy.

It's not good for geeky electronic technicians to become vigilante gunslingers in NYC and then seek out like minded companions.

Frankengeek.




I just watched a show about him on A&E. One of the retards he shot got outta prison last month.  One thing i was happy to hear was that he's never paid a penny of the 43 million to the thug that caught a bullet in the spine.
8/4/2010 12:06:50 AM EDT
[#5]




Quoted:



Quoted:

I saw his police interrogation on TV, and he was one whiny crybaby, gasping and melting in tears. Later of course he became a badass folk hero, made the white supremacist convention circuits out in the boonies, etc, etc, acting the swaggering tough guy.



It's not good for geeky electronic technicians to become vigilante gunslingers in NYC and then seek out like minded companions.



Frankengeek.









I just watched a show about him on A&E. One of the retards he shot got outta prison last month. One thing i was happy to hear was that he's never paid a penny of the 43 million to the thug that caught a bullet in the spine.


Thats good. Even though all the thugs were good, upstanding citizens that helped the elderly carry groceries, and volunteered at the local soup kitchen. At least maybe according to their mama's.

8/4/2010 12:07:38 AM EDT
[#6]
The circumstances of the shoot may not have been squeaky clean, but there's no denying the dirtbags that were shot deserved it.
8/4/2010 12:20:56 AM EDT
[#7]
We need more Bernard Goetzes to "snap" until the scum in every city stop preying on the people.
8/4/2010 12:23:06 AM EDT
[#8]
Good shoot.

I would have done the same thing.

4 scumbags laying their hands on you is not something to mess with. Better them than me
8/4/2010 12:38:26 AM EDT
[#9]
My understanding is that he's a regular guy who had the foresight to anticipate the threat and the fortitude to do something about it.  Whatever else may have happened he avoided becoming another statistic.

The show on A&E was the one with Shatner right?
8/4/2010 12:47:46 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
The circumstances of the shoot may not have been squeaky clean, but there's no denying the dirtbags that were shot deserved it.


There ya go
8/4/2010 1:03:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Hero
8/4/2010 1:39:30 AM EDT
[#12]
Today he is crazy. Back then he did what was required of him. Whether or not he said "the n word" has no relevance and is in no way related to whether the last guy shot did in fact "want another".
8/4/2010 1:51:02 AM EDT
[#13]
He's now a vegetarian "squirrel rescuerer"



I don't know why no one ever collected on those judgments, if he had a job they could have garnished his wages. It's not like he ran off to Canada to avoid the judgments.
8/4/2010 2:48:36 AM EDT
[#14]
"You don't look so bad.....here's another!" is probably somthing you DON'T want to be heard saying in a "self defense" shoot.   Especially if the perp lives........
8/4/2010 3:04:05 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


I think he had the right idea. He just went about it the wrong way.


Indeed



 
8/4/2010 3:06:55 AM EDT
[#16]
No poll?
8/4/2010 4:32:54 AM EDT
[#17]
I think this guy displays classic Asperger syndrome and that is a form of high functioning Autism. These kids grow up geeky and get pushed around all the time because some kids are assholes. In 4th and 5th grade I came to the defense of a few of these kids and had to put a real hurt on some Catholic school boys. Better me than the priest. Mr. Goetz demonstrated why NY would be better if people could defend themselves. This does not go down well with the ruling class who reserve all power to themselves and the state. Lastly, never forget the power of keeping your mouth shut so the lawyer can cover your ass. Things would be better for him if he asked for a lawyer first up.
8/4/2010 5:29:39 AM EDT
[#18]
Good shoot, but zero common sense for talking to the cops like he did.

STFU and wait for your lawyer.
8/4/2010 5:32:38 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
He's now a vegetarian "squirrel rescuerer"

I don't know why no one ever collected on those judgments, if he had a job they could have garnished his wages. It's not like he ran off to Canada to avoid the judgments.


homey don't play that! they want outta pocket paper!
8/4/2010 5:41:05 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
My understanding is that he's a regular guy who had the foresight to anticipate the threat and the fortitude to do something about it.  Whatever else may have happened he avoided becoming another statistic.

The show on A&E was the one with Shatner right?


Aye, that it is.
8/4/2010 5:42:31 AM EDT
[#21]
It is what it is.
8/4/2010 5:43:43 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
He's now a vegetarian "squirrel rescuerer"

I don't know why no one ever collected on those judgments, if he had a job they could have garnished his wages. It's not like he ran off to Canada to avoid the judgments.


He filed bankruptcy shortly after the judgment, I don't know if that gets you out of settlements like that. He did say he lost his business over it and that now he's "buying and selling electronics on the internet" iirc.
8/4/2010 5:47:58 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Good shoot, but zero common sense for talking to the cops like he did.


If he'd kept his mouth shut, he never would have gone to jail.
8/4/2010 5:48:26 AM EDT
[#24]
According to Ayoob, before the shooting Goetz tried to stay legal and applied for a pistol permit. He was denied of course by NYPD because he was a normal citizen and not a political hack.
8/4/2010 5:52:56 AM EDT
[#25]
Should have kept his mouth shut, IMHO.

If you're going to talk to your assailant while shooting, you should be screaming "STOP HURTING ME!!! STOP HURTING ME!!! STOP IT, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!..."


EYE witnesses are rarely accurate, but they ALWAYS remember what they heard.

If they heard you begging for mercy (even while pumping your assailant full of 230g's), that is what they will report to LEO's and, most importantly, to the jury.
8/4/2010 6:37:37 AM EDT
[#26]




Quoted:

I saw his police interrogation on TV, and he was one whiny crybaby, gasping and melting in tears. Later of course he became a badass folk hero, made the white supremacist convention circuits out in the boonies, etc, etc, acting the swaggering tough guy.



It's not good for geeky electronic technicians to become vigilante gunslingers in NYC and then seek out like minded companions.



Frankengeek.





Vigilante gunslingers, huh?



You work for HCI, do ya?