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8/2/2010 8:33:12 AM EDT
Is it ok to use 15amp switches/outlets on a 20 amp circuit? I finished out our basement with 2 bedrooms and a family area and put them all on 20amp circuits(12/2c) Now I see I bought all 15 amp stitches/outlets(originally going to just put in 15amps circuits). Is it ok do put them in? will the inspector flag it? I asked one of our electricians and he said it was good to go but I wanted to double check
8/2/2010 8:42:07 AM EDT
[#1]
IIRC, you must have more than one 15 amp outlet.  Since nearly all outlets are duplex, the problem kind of solves itself.
8/2/2010 8:44:29 AM EDT
[#2]
If by 20 amp circuit you refer to just a wiring (12ga/2conductor), you are fine as long as circuit breaker and outlet are both 15 amp rated.
8/2/2010 8:46:30 AM EDT
[#3]


I wouldn't do it for the simple reason that the 15amp switches & plugs are most likely attached to a 20 amp breaker. If you pull to much on those plugs they could fail.  Of course when they fail it could be very destructive to your home/family..
8/2/2010 8:49:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Just put in a 15 amp breaker and you are gtg unless you plan on drawing more than that on the circuit.
8/2/2010 8:50:09 AM EDT
[#5]
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Electrical-Wiring-Home-1734/15-amp-outlets-20.htm



Also see nec 210-21[b](3)
8/2/2010 8:53:59 AM EDT
[#6]
YOU ARE FINE!!!! IBEW ELECTRICIAN COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.......i highly doubt any one receptacle is going to pull more than 15 amps.....
8/2/2010 8:57:24 AM EDT
[#7]
Your good, 20 amp breaker- 12ga wiring- multiple 15A outlets. Exactly how I did my garage.

8/2/2010 9:00:49 AM EDT
[#8]
If you ran 14g wire on a 20 amp circuit, there is the possibility of a fire.  If you ran 12g on 20amp breaker with 15amp curcuits, you will be okay.
8/2/2010 9:06:32 AM EDT
[#9]
The circuit breaker protects the circuit.  It must be the weakest link in the circuit to function properly.  If you use 15 Amp components (wires, switches and outlets), then you run the risk of something else being the weakest link (like hot melting wires and shit.

Bad ju-ju.

Use "12 AWG wires and 20 amp components in a 20 amp circuit.
8/2/2010 9:16:28 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
If you ran 14g wire on a 20 amp circuit, there is the possibility of a fire.  If you ran 12g on 20amp breaker with 15amp curcuits, you will be okay.


you still have a 20 amp circuit, the fuse size determines that.  i think what you meant to say was 15 amp devices on a 20 amp circuit.––––––––––-OP––––if you are concerned, just simply install 20 amp commercial  receptacles throughout  your home. they are so much better than those .39 receptacles at places like home depot.––––ETA–– i've had a master electrician license for over 20 years, been a electrician for 48 years,,,starting to catch on to what i am doing.
8/2/2010 9:32:30 AM EDT
[#11]


you cant overload a 15 amp outlet with a 20 amp load because the male plug will not fit. As long as you dont overload your switches with more that a 15 amp load you should be good to go... When sizing recpt circuits use 180 va per outlet . I think that maxes out at around 13 outlets per cuircuit. Remember your bedrooms must have arcfault breakers. Them are pricy little buggers. Good luck

8/2/2010 9:34:06 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Just put in a 15 amp breaker and you are gtg unless you plan on drawing more than that on the circuit.


This.  The upstream circuit protection needs to be smaller than the wiring and devices downstream.
8/2/2010 9:34:45 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
YOU ARE FINE!!!! IBEW ELECTRICIAN COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.......i highly doubt any one receptacle is going to pull more than 15 amps.....


Yes, 99% of the time it will be fine, but it's that 1% that burns the house down.


And you have to be concerned with faults.

Plus the inspector will probably flag it.
8/2/2010 9:35:22 AM EDT
[#14]




Quoted:



Quoted:

If you ran 14g wire on a 20 amp circuit, there is the possibility of a fire. If you ran 12g on 20amp breaker with 15amp curcuits, you will be okay.




you still have a 20 amp circuit, the fuse size determines that. i think what you meant to say was 15 amp devices on a 20 amp circuit.––––––––––-OP––––if you are concerned, just simply install 20 amp commercial receptacles throughout your home. they are so much better than those .39 receptacles at places like home depot.––––ETA–– i've had a master electrician license for over 20 years, been a electrician for 48 years,,,starting to catch on to what i am doing.


yep been doing it for 30 years myself and would never use cheap devices less than 2 bucks a pop. Seen way to much FAIL and made good money replacing them......

8/2/2010 9:51:13 AM EDT
[#15]
15 amp rated receptacles on a 20A general purpose branch ckt  are fine provided, you only terminate the "in and out "  conductors to the device's side bussbar screw terminals, use of the "quickwire" terminal holes in the rear are a no-go. The amp listing of a receptacle refers to the face contact rating from which you would be pulling current out of.

The same for 15A toggle switches on "general pupose branch circuits" . But  now if you are trying to toggle switch a large bank of recess lighting, the arching sound would give you a hint there's a problem


8/2/2010 9:59:02 AM EDT
[#16]
You are fine.

We don't run any 14/2 wire in our homes either.

All general circuits are 12/2 wire with 15A receptacles on a 20A breaker.






8/2/2010 10:55:16 AM EDT
[#17]
thanks guys. Also confirmed with store and another electrician. Yes its a 20amp breaker with a 12/2c loop on it. Most of the lights reside on a 15 amp circuit but some are on the new 20amp ones as well. Was told everything will be fine and pass inspection