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7/16/2010 7:02:34 AM EDT
That is the tiniest intake I've ever seen.  And doesn't this look like a plane that might have flown the skies of vietnam, not a modern day plane?





7/16/2010 7:03:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Can you buy one at Harbor Freight?
7/16/2010 7:03:57 AM EDT
[#2]
The parachute is from the Dollar Store.
7/16/2010 7:04:02 AM EDT
[#3]
How does any air fit through those vents???  
7/16/2010 7:04:18 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Can you buy one at Harbor Freight?


Soon
7/16/2010 7:04:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
How does any air fit through those vents???  


Old Chinese proverb says the smaller the hole, the harder it sucks.
7/16/2010 7:05:11 AM EDT
[#6]
An F-16 had sex with a thud...



ugly baby.
7/16/2010 7:08:12 AM EDT
[#7]
It looks like the child of an F-105 that smoked, drank, took Thalidomide and smoked crack out of a lead bowl during pregnancy.


7/16/2010 7:08:34 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
An F-16 had sex with a thud...

ugly baby.


Or F5 wings grafted on to a Rafale fuselage.
7/16/2010 7:10:06 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
An F-16 had sex with a thud...

ugly baby.



7/16/2010 7:10:49 AM EDT
[#10]
F-16/SuperBug/F22 fodder.
7/16/2010 7:11:57 AM EDT
[#11]
is this supposed to be multi-role, CAS or air superiority fighter?
7/16/2010 7:12:06 AM EDT
[#12]
Looks a Gripen and Rafale had the sexy time.

I bet we can guess where some sucessful Chinese spies were...
7/16/2010 7:12:11 AM EDT
[#13]
Soon the Chicom's will clone it and sell it for 1/2 off the MSRP.
7/16/2010 7:14:07 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
is this supposed to be multi-role, CAS or air superiority fighter?


I think it's a ground attack fighter now. Also I believe the Chinese aren't going to acquire it in many numbers either because of its lackluster performance.
7/16/2010 7:14:32 AM EDT
[#15]
It's appearantly RIAT time again.
7/16/2010 7:15:48 AM EDT
[#16]
Looks like a grippen and rafale got freaky.
But it has a paki flag on the vert stab.

 
7/16/2010 7:18:05 AM EDT
[#17]
Looks french to me..

7/16/2010 7:18:55 AM EDT
[#18]
Looks like they cut the nose off a MIG-21, grafted on the rear of an F-16, and cut tiny little air intakes for the engine.
7/16/2010 7:19:34 AM EDT
[#19]
was that done to reduce the RCS of the fan blades? I know thats a big deal on modern jets.
7/16/2010 7:20:52 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Looks like a grippen and rafale got freaky.











But it has a paki flag on the vert stab.  


It's a joint venture between the two nations. Pakistan got close with the Chinese after the US didn't deliver their F-16's back in the 90's due to them acquiring nukes.
7/16/2010 7:21:22 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Looks like a grippen and rafale got freaky.











But it has a paki flag on the vert stab.  


Yeah, apparently it's a joint effort between China and Pakistan.  Wiki link
7/16/2010 7:23:06 AM EDT
[#22]
Look at the Islamic moon and star on the tail. Hard to tell with the gray, but I think it's Pakistani. (Green field, moon, star, white stripe to the left...)

So now imagine a PRC jet with a Middle Eastern maintenance schedule.

Although at least the labor to do something about taking a ball-peen hammer and smashing all those exposed rivets nice and flat will be cheap.
7/16/2010 7:23:16 AM EDT
[#23]
Looking at it more closely, it resembles the Italian/Brazilian AMX with 'stealthy' intakes grafted on.
7/16/2010 7:26:52 AM EDT
[#24]
It's a contract design made for Pakistan. Which is loosely based on the old Super 7 project. It's powered by a Klimov RD93 turbofan, a modified RD33 that is use in the Mig29.

Oh about the intake, that's a DSI design or Diverterless Supersonic Inlet.
7/16/2010 7:31:19 AM EDT
[#25]
So...  is it balsa wood and tissue paper or cloth?
7/16/2010 7:47:42 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Can you buy one at Harbor Freight?


7/16/2010 7:50:51 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Looks a Gripen and Rafale had the sexy time.

I bet we can guess where some sucessful Chinese spies were...


Shit,
They bought a whole F-16 from Pakistan.
That ain't spying, thats shopping.
Vidi, Vidi Visa.
7/16/2010 7:52:41 AM EDT
[#28]
One of a kind, they are all just one of a kind
7/16/2010 8:02:21 AM EDT
[#29]
I guess that will work with ##s
7/16/2010 8:05:01 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
is this supposed to be multi-role, CAS or air superiority fighter?


Target.

7/16/2010 8:09:01 AM EDT
[#31]
I wonder what the cost of one of these will be?





There's a whole Quantity/Quality ratio that's important when looking at a AF , but at the rate China builds these things, its worthless.



Of course, they'd be MUCH better off with just buying a bunch of SU27s or similar , and training their pilots but what's the fun of that when you could just use 1,000 mig 21s? It's like North Korea +
7/16/2010 8:15:36 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
It looks like the child of an F-105 that smoked, drank, took Thalidomide and smoked crack out of a lead bowl during pregnancy.


Very nice
7/16/2010 8:22:24 AM EDT
[#33]
Looks like a turd. I'm sure it's cheap though.
7/16/2010 8:22:27 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
I wonder what the cost of one of these will be?


There's a whole Quantity/Quality ratio that's important when looking at a AF , but at the rate China builds these things, its worthless.

Of course, they'd be MUCH better off with just buying a bunch of SU27s or similar , and training their pilots but what's the fun of that when you could just use 1,000 mig 21s? It's like North Korea +


They've got the J-10 as their new mainstay fighter. The J-17 is mainly an export aircraft and the PLAAF won't be using it too much.

7/16/2010 8:27:11 AM EDT
[#35]
I think it looks kinda like a Mig-23 and an F-104 got tegether.
7/16/2010 8:28:51 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Can you buy one at Harbor Freight?


Pure gold, man.  Pure freakin' gold.  LMAO.
7/16/2010 8:29:01 AM EDT
[#37]
It looks like one of the Century-series Deltas humped an F-16.
7/16/2010 8:29:24 AM EDT
[#38]
Made primarily for Pakistan and export markets, not domestic Chinese use.

Think of it as a Chinese version of the US F5 program.
7/16/2010 8:30:02 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Can you buy one at Harbor Freight?


First post wins,

Maybe you can fix them with those Chicago Electric tools.
7/16/2010 8:30:50 AM EDT
[#40]
Unless we have a minimum of 278 F-22s, we will not be able to defend the skies of america against 24 of those flown by chinese pilots.

Its a simple matter of national defense.
You do care about america, don't you?
7/16/2010 8:42:28 AM EDT
[#41]
I think it looks like a Super Etendard/Rafale mongrel.


French aviation incest   FTMFW!
7/16/2010 8:55:16 AM EDT
[#42]
Looks like a typical drone aircraft...
7/16/2010 8:58:31 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Can you buy one at Harbor Freight?


Not yet! but they'll be available at Walmart in August.
7/16/2010 9:01:37 AM EDT
[#44]

whatever it is it's leaps and bounds above the new russian fighter



7/16/2010 9:05:32 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
How does any air fit through those vents???  


Magnets
7/16/2010 9:09:29 AM EDT
[#46]
Pretty pathetic rear visibility prospects, for an alleged fighter.





Very Thunderchief-ish design.   Very "Not modern aerodynamic concepts".



Very "Chinese",  you might say.    Ambitious but well behind the times.





CJ


7/16/2010 12:08:41 PM EDT
[#47]







Quoted:
Quoted:



It looks like the child of an F-105 that smoked, drank, took Thalidomide and smoked crack out of a lead bowl during pregnancy.




Very nice




As clever as it was, I think I'll retract that statement.
It's a MiG-21 body with F-105-esque nose, wings and intakes. The weight is similar to a MiG-21, the fuselage looks like it's almost the same shape, save for the cockpit which appears to have been lengthened for increased visibility due to the relocation of the intakes. There have been RD-33 re-engines of MiG-21's done by Klimov in the past.
I'm no expert, but I'd say that the fuselage is a modification of the J-7 (MiG-21 clone) design. Looking at the Saber II that was proposed by Northrop in the late eighties seems to confirm this.
 
7/16/2010 12:28:04 PM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:


Can you buy one at Harbor Freight?


Man I lol'd hard.

 
7/16/2010 12:30:10 PM EDT
[#49]
F-105 and an F-16 had a baby?
7/16/2010 5:03:53 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:


F-105 and an F-16 had a baby?


An anal baby,  to be precise.