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7/1/2010 12:51:02 PM EDT
HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!  EPA seems to be going gangbusters since the kenyan has moved to DC.........



http://galvestondailynews.com/story/160182

EPA pulls permits for two Texas City refineries



TEXAS CITY — The Environmental Protection Agency on Wednesday rejected the air quality permits for 122 industrial facilities in Texas, including the BP and Valero refineries in Texas City.



The pulling of the flexible air permits that are issued by the state under EPA’s authority means the facilities do not have legal operating permits.



EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.



Earlier this year, the agency pulled more than 200 permits, citing what it said were deficiencies in the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality’s flexible air permitting process.



Adopted in 1995, the flex air permit process in Texas allows industrial sites greater latitude in controlling air emissions. The process issued permits based on a facility’s overall emissions and not a unit by unit measure that the EPA prefers.



That would allow one portion of a chemical plant or refinery to pollute more than federal standards as long as overall emissions at the facility did not violate federal air quality standards. Armendariz argued the process allowed companies to avoid federal air quality requirements by lumping emissions from multiple units under a single cap.



“Today’s action improves our ability to provide the citizens of Texas with the same healthy-air protections that are provided for citizens in all other states under the Clean Air Act,” Armendariz said. “EPA will continue working closely with Texas, industry, environmental organizations and community leaders to assure an effective and legal air permitting system.”



The EPA warned the state environmental agency it was considering pulling air quality permits if the state did not change its flex permit process. In mid-June, TCEQ commissioners revised the process — but defended it at the same time.



“We are defending our flexible air permitting program because it works,” Bryan Shaw, chairman of the state agency, said. “EPA is not able to demonstrate how our program is less protective of the environment than the bureaucratic federal approach. EPA’s philosophy of more bureaucracy by federalizing state permits will not lead to cleaner air but will drive up energy costs and kill job creation at a time when people can least afford it.”



Valero spokesman Bill Day said the company was disappointed and expressed the frustration about a change in the rules that had appeared to be acceptable for the past 16 years.



“When the flex permit program was rolled out in 1994, EPA and environmental groups applauded it, and EPA approval seemed implicit,” Day said. “Now, 16 years later, EPA is reversing course, and our facilities are caught in the middle, creating significant uncertainty at a time when our economy can least afford it.”



In addition to its Texas City facility, Valero had its air quality permits pulled at five other facilities.



BP spokesman Michael Marr declined to comment on the EPA’s decision.



Valero and BP said the decision had not had an impact on operations of the Texas City refineries.



Jimmy Hayley, president of the Texas City-La Marque Chamber of Commerce, said the EPA’s actions were ill-timed and could erode the economies of industrial communities.



“While I am confident Valero and BP will meet all the requirements, it puts fear out there and gives employees (of industrial facilities) a mixed message,” Hayley said. “That hurts the economy if people are worried about their jobs.”



He said smaller businesses that depend on the industrial sites are already worried given the global economic downturn and incidents such as the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.



Environmental groups applauded the EPA’s actions.



“Texans deserve the same clean air protection as citizens of every other state, and TCEQ’s flexible permitting program has been denying all of us that right for nearly 20 years,” Luke Metzger, of Environment Texas, said. “The Clean Air Act is the same law that polluters in all other 49 states have to follow, and it’s time that polluters in Texas follow it, too.”
7/1/2010 12:52:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Texas needs to tell the EPA to go pound sand...
7/1/2010 12:53:18 PM EDT
[#2]
It's time for Governor Goodhair to stand up for Texas to govern ourselves.

I don't give a shit if he shot a coyote...he needs to tell them to FOAD.

Hax
7/1/2010 12:54:05 PM EDT
[#3]
Good grounds for secession if you ask me.
7/1/2010 12:55:19 PM EDT
[#4]
In before the helpless freaking out.
7/1/2010 12:55:59 PM EDT
[#5]
w00t!
my ethanol plant is gonna get busy
7/1/2010 12:56:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
"The EPA is shutting down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!"

EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.

Did you even bother to read your own article, or is you just trollin'?
7/1/2010 12:57:48 PM EDT
[#7]
EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.


Not shutting down.

edit....damn beat again.
7/1/2010 12:58:02 PM EDT
[#8]




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Quoted:

"The EPA is shutting down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!"




EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.


Did you even bother to read your own article, or is you just trollin'?


Did you read it?



"The pulling of the flexible air permits that are issued by the state under EPA’s authority means the facilities do not have legal operating permits."



7/1/2010 12:58:42 PM EDT
[#9]




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EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.





Not shutting down.


Okay, title adjusted.

7/1/2010 12:59:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Fuck ethanol. Worse idea ever to use a food crop for fuel.

Edit: fail on the quote from the ethanol tree hugger above..no offense.
7/1/2010 1:00:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!

http://galvestondailynews.com/story/160182




TEXAS CITY — The Environmental Protection Agency on Wednesday rejected the air quality permits for 122 industrial facilities in Texas, including the BP and Valero refineries in Texas City.

The pulling of the flexible air permits that are issued by the state under EPA’s authority means the facilities do not have legal operating permits.

EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said
none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.
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Thread title does not match article.....
7/1/2010 1:00:48 PM EDT
[#12]




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Quoted:

HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!



http://galvestondailynews.com/story/160182

TEXAS CITY — The Environmental Protection Agency on Wednesday rejected the air quality permits for 122 industrial facilities in Texas, including the BP and Valero refineries in Texas City.



The pulling of the flexible air permits that are issued by the state under EPA’s authority means the facilities do not have legal operating permits.



EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said

none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.

......




Thread title does not match article.....


Fixed.  


7/1/2010 1:01:38 PM EDT
[#13]




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Quoted:



Quoted:

"The EPA is shutting down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!"




EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.


Did you even bother to read your own article, or is you just trollin'?


Did you read it?



"The pulling of the flexible air permits that are issued by the state under EPA’s authority means the facilities do not have legal operating permits."





Correct, but they are allowed to keep operating until they do.

7/1/2010 1:01:50 PM EDT
[#14]
At $5/gallon, the economy stops.

I would entertain it just to kill to democrat/media/Obama/messiah lovefest.

Obama = Hoover
7/1/2010 1:02:49 PM EDT
[#15]




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Quoted:

"The EPA is shutting down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!"




EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.


Did you even bother to read your own article, or is you just trollin'?


Did you read it?



"The pulling of the flexible air permits that are issued by the state under EPA’s authority means the facilities do not have legal operating permits."





Correct, but they are allowed to keep operating until they do.



And what happens if they don't?

7/1/2010 1:03:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Fixed.  


The EPA actions could possibly shut down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!


Your new title is still sensationalist bullshit that in no way matches the facts stated in the article.

Try again.
7/1/2010 1:04:55 PM EDT
[#17]




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Fixed.








The EPA actions could possibly shut down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!




Your new title is still sensationalist bullshit that in no way matches the facts stated in the article.



Try again.





7/1/2010 1:05:09 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
w00t!
my ethanol plant is gonna get busy

Get ready for $9 corn cobs.
7/1/2010 1:05:40 PM EDT
[#19]



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HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!



http://galvestondailynews.com/story/160182

TEXAS CITY — The Environmental Protection Agency on Wednesday rejected the air quality permits for 122 industrial facilities in Texas, including the BP and Valero refineries in Texas City.



The pulling of the flexible air permits that are issued by the state under EPA’s authority means the facilities do not have legal operating permits.



EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz said

none of the facilities will be required to shut down but all will be required to obtain new permits under stricter guidelines.

......




Thread title does not match article.....


Fixed.  




No, it hasn't been.  Try again.   Unlike the majority of Americans, we prefer accuracy in reporting.  



 
7/1/2010 1:06:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

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Fixed.


The EPA actions could possibly shut down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!


Your new title is still sensationalist bullshit that in no way matches the facts stated in the article.

Try again.




"EPA actions could possibly shut down oil refineries"


You're almost there...come on...you can do it...
7/1/2010 1:06:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
At $5/gallon, the economy stops.

I would entertain it just to kill to democrat/media/Obama/messiah lovefest.

Obama = Hoover


It would lead to more $ being given out the the welfare trash to pay for their $5 gas. I'm sure they would have a way to spin it off on someone else.

But yea the OP is just looking for attention with a bullshit title.
7/1/2010 1:07:43 PM EDT
[#22]




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Fixed.








The EPA actions could possibly shut down oil refineries - GET READY FOR $8 GAS!!!!!




Your new title is still sensationalist bullshit that in no way matches the facts stated in the article.



Try again.











"EPA actions could possibly shut down oil refineries"




You're almost there...come on...you can do it...


I think it's good now.

7/1/2010 1:09:51 PM EDT
[#23]
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I think it's good now.

Alright...so how is this going to possibly shut down all of the oil refineries? I must have missed that section of the article...
7/1/2010 1:14:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Fuck the EPA.

I have a full permit and was notified that they had "opened a full investigation" into my firm. I called them and the lady told me that "the report that I have in my hand , which I recieved on Feb. 2nd 2010" is the reason we`ve opened an investigation. I asked her if she had the report. She said "yes, I`m looking at it". I asked her if there was a problem with the report and she said "No, we just need to verify to us that you mailed it on time". (The deadline is ALWAYS Jan 31 of any year). I next spent 2 hours finding all the "return reciept requested " docs from the United States Post Office for the prior three years , copied them, and faxed them to her.


It didn`t matter that I`ve NEVER had a complaint or violation in thirty years. It didn`t matter that our emmissinos are LESS THAN 40% OF OUR ALLOWED LIMIT. All that mattered was that we mailed it on time. Fuck them.
7/1/2010 1:18:35 PM EDT
[#25]
*crickets*
7/1/2010 1:23:45 PM EDT
[#26]
they started that shit here in corpus christi last month
7/1/2010 1:32:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Notice how the greenies automatically assume refineries are polluters?  



That is their MO, force refineries into proving they don't pollute instead of showing damage.  
7/1/2010 1:33:53 PM EDT
[#28]
All part of the master plan to further punish the economy and achieve the proleteriat takeover.
7/1/2010 1:34:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
they started that shit here in corpus christi last month


It is no accident.  Texas is being punished for being more economically successfull than the rest of the country.