Posted: 6/12/2010 9:38:26 AM EDT
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Anybody see this one? Prohibits DOD from requiring registration of personally owned firearms. Introduced last month by Senator Inhofe.
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law.
This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? |
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Quoted: If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? Baby steps man |
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If they want to do something meanful, make active duty exempt from local/state gun laws that restrict items and features while they are PCSd there.
In other words if a soldier owns pre-ban AR15 and gets PCSd to Commiefornia, he should be allowed to take it with him. |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? What? Does the concept of walk-crawl-run mean anything at all to you? This is a significant bill, that will help to protect our rights. Don't you dare call Senators who work to help us "fucking traitor". |
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Quoted: If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? That's some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Be glad anyone is doing anything for the 2nd Amendment, you ungrateful dick. Would you prefer the whole country be like California?  If not, then take your victories when you can get them. Or have you forgotten the concept of the citizen soldier? |
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Quoted: If they want to do something meanful, make active duty exempt from local/state gun laws that restrict items and features while they are PCSd there. In other words if a soldier owns pre-ban AR15 and gets PCSd to Commiefornia, he should be allowed to take it with him. We have a provision for that, actually. Fortunately. |
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If they want to do something meanful, make active duty exempt from local/state gun laws that restrict items and features while they are PCSd there. In other words if a soldier owns pre-ban AR15 and gets PCSd to Commiefornia, he should be allowed to take it with him. We have a provision for that, actually. Fortunately. True –– in CA. I don't think any of the other AWB states have it though. It would be nice to have a federal protection for it –– though I suspect they'd just ignore it like they do FOPA (NY, MA, etc). |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? What? Does the concept of walk-crawl-run mean anything at all to you? This is a significant bill, that will help to protect our rights. Don't you dare call Senators who work to help us "fucking traitor". Is Obama and his hoard walking? Fuck no. Why should we? And is McCain a traitor? Answer that. My main point is that this bill does not restore anything, it just protects a CERTAIN ELITE CLASS. I trust you guys to start telling me when I am lying to you. 
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Quoted: You're telling me you'd deny the benefits of the 2A to one group when you lose NOTHING personally, simply out of a feeling of superiority and entitlement, regardless of how justified those feelings are? I must say, then, that your handle is very fitting.Quoted: Quoted: If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? What? Does the concept of walk-crawl-run mean anything at all to you? This is a significant bill, that will help to protect our rights. Don't you dare call Senators who work to help us "fucking traitor". Is Obama and his hoard walking? Fuck no. Why should we? And is McCain a traitor? Answer that. My main point is that this bill does not restore anything, it just protects a CERTAIN ELITE CLASS. |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? What? Does the concept of walk-crawl-run mean anything at all to you? This is a significant bill, that will help to protect our rights. Don't you dare call Senators who work to help us "fucking traitor". Is Obama and his hoard walking? Fuck no. Why should we? And is McCain a traitor? Answer that. My main point is that this bill does not restore anything, it just protects a CERTAIN ELITE CLASS. You should probably move along now. I'm not an "ELITE CLASS", I am subject to a more restrictive set of laws than you are (by choice, because I signed up for it), and this law simply clarifies that the DOD may not require me to register my firearms with them. You can't be subject to this registration requirement if you're not military anyway. Go troll somewhere else. |
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You're telling me you'd deny the benefits of the 2A to one group when you lose NOTHING personally, simply out of a feeling of superiority? Your handle is very fitting.
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? What? Does the concept of walk-crawl-run mean anything at all to you? This is a significant bill, that will help to protect our rights. Don't you dare call Senators who work to help us "fucking traitor". Is Obama and his hoard walking? Fuck no. Why should we? And is McCain a traitor? Answer that. My main point is that this bill does not restore anything, it just protects a CERTAIN ELITE CLASS. From that angle, sure it's a good bill... I was not attacking from that angle though. I was attacking from the "If you are going to use all of that time and money making a law that protects a few, you should just make a law that restore liberties to EVERYONE." angle.
And while at it, a paragraph in that new law would include something about the .mil not having to register their personal weapons. Do you see what I'm getting at here? |
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You're telling me you'd deny the benefits of the 2A to one group when you lose NOTHING personally, simply out of a feeling of superiority? Your handle is very fitting.
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? What? Does the concept of walk-crawl-run mean anything at all to you? This is a significant bill, that will help to protect our rights. Don't you dare call Senators who work to help us "fucking traitor". Is Obama and his hoard walking? Fuck no. Why should we? And is McCain a traitor? Answer that. My main point is that this bill does not restore anything, it just protects a CERTAIN ELITE CLASS. From that angle, sure it's a good bill... I was not attacking from that angle though. I was attacking from the "If you are going to use all of that time and money making a law that protects a few, you should should just make a law that restore liberties to EVERYONE." angle. You're not subject to the UCMJ. There's no registration requirement for you anyway. All this does is codify in law, that commanders may not violate the my firearms rights. You don't even understand the issue. |
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You're not subject to the UCMJ. There's no registration requirement for you anyway. All this does is codify in law, that commanders may not violate the my firearms rights. You don't even understand the issue. Derp...aherp...I understand it alot more than you understand my way of writing. 
Im just sayin. Inhofe wrote a bill that could have been great if he actually used it fort a wider restoration of liberty to EVERYONE. |
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Quoted: If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? And coming back to REALITY....it's far better to make tiny steps you have a chance of succeeding at, than to try to go right for the Holy Grail when you don't have a PRAYER of succeeding. We can't get the NFA and GCA repealed yet. We need to nibble away at other restrictions first. Small steps. We'll get there. CJ |
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You're not subject to the UCMJ. There's no registration requirement for you anyway. All this does is codify in law, that commanders may not violate the my firearms rights. You don't even understand the issue. Derp...aherp...I understand it alot more than you understand my way of writing.
Im just sayin. Inhofe wrote a bill that could have been great if he actually used it fort a wider restoration of liberty to EVERYONE. You called a senator who wrote a single bill that would clarify something that has been a significant issue for people on this board, and might actually be able to pass, a "fucking traitor", because he didn't write a bill that is guaranteed to fail, but would make you happy. You obviously don't understand anything, and i'd appreciate you taking your bullshit trolling somewhere else. |
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If they want to do something meanful, make active duty exempt from local/state gun laws that restrict items and features while they are PCSd there. In other words if a soldier owns pre-ban AR15 and gets PCSd to Commiefornia, he should be allowed to take it with him. We have a provision for that, actually. Fortunately. Really? Could you clarify that for me? I'm interested as it's the first I'm hearing about it. |
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You're not subject to the UCMJ. There's no registration requirement for you anyway. All this does is codify in law, that commanders may not violate the my firearms rights. You don't even understand the issue. Derp...aherp...I understand it alot more than you understand my way of writing.
Im just sayin. Inhofe wrote a bill that could have been great if he actually used it fort a wider restoration of liberty to EVERYONE. You called a senator who wrote a single bill that would clarify something that has been a significant issue for people on this board, and might actually be able to pass, a "fucking traitor", because he didn't write a bill that is guaranteed to fail, but would make you happy. You obviously don't understand anything, and i'd appreciate you taking your bullshit trolling somewhere else. That right there. Take your victories where you can get them. |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? That's some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Be glad anyone is doing anything for the 2nd Amendment, you ungrateful dick. Would you prefer the whole country be like California? If not, then take your victories when you can get them. Or have you forgotten the concept of the citizen soldier?
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You're not subject to the UCMJ. There's no registration requirement for you anyway. All this does is codify in law, that commanders may not violate the my firearms rights. You don't even understand the issue. Derp...aherp...I understand it alot more than you understand my way of writing.
Im just sayin. Inhofe wrote a bill that could have been great if he actually used it fort a wider restoration of liberty to EVERYONE. When I read posts like yours I honestly wonder if we should restore liberty to EVERYONE. Your first post is among the most inane things I've read on this forum, ever. You should read more and post less. |
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If they want to do something meanful, make active duty exempt from local/state gun laws that restrict items and features while they are PCSd there. In other words if a soldier owns pre-ban AR15 and gets PCSd to Commiefornia, he should be allowed to take it with him. We have a provision for that, actually. Fortunately. Really? Could you clarify that for me? I'm interested as it's the first I'm hearing about it. I don't know the details off the top of my head, but IIRC the law allows service members who transfer to CA a grace period to put their weapons into a CA legal configuration (bullet buttons and either pre-ban or low-cap mags, etc) and register them after they transfer to a CA base. |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? So, when you served you didn't find the restriction of rights under UCMJ that are availed to all other citizens to be constraining in the least? I mean, I know Dave eats it up, but many don't/didn't, myself included. During my enlistment a suicide in my unit prompted a CYA move to have service members provide information about their personally owned weapons to include make/model/serial number. As unit armorer I was asked by my Joes what they needed to do, and I told them if they were off-post they were probably like me and didn't have any POW's. However my wife was armed to the teeth, and Brigade or Post or whothefuckever could go talk to her about it (a civilian off-post in Texas) if they needed to. It was never an issue, and forgotten within a week, but you don't see any issue with your boss having a registry of your weapons, AND the legal ability to order you to do damnearanything? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If they want to do something meanful, make active duty exempt from local/state gun laws that restrict items and features while they are PCSd there. In other words if a soldier owns pre-ban AR15 and gets PCSd to Commiefornia, he should be allowed to take it with him. We have a provision for that, actually. Fortunately. Really? Could you clarify that for me? I'm interested as it's the first I'm hearing about it. I don't know the details off the top of my head, but IIRC the law allows service members who transfer to CA a grace period to put their weapons into a CA legal configuration (bullet buttons and either pre-ban or low-cap mags, etc) and register them after they transfer to a CA base. CA AWB has a complete exemption for military (you can have legal-almsot-everywhere-else unaltered weapons), so long as you apply for a permit from the state & register your weapons with their DOJ. When you leave CA or leave active duty service, the weapons in question have to leave CA. |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? What? Does the concept of walk-crawl-run mean anything at all to you? This is a significant bill, that will help to protect our rights. Don't you dare call Senators who work to help us "fucking traitor". Is Obama and his hoard walking? Fuck no. Why should we? And is McCain a traitor? Answer that. My main point is that this bill does not restore anything, it just protects a CERTAIN ELITE CLASS. I trust you guys to start telling me when I am lying to you. First, what the fuck does McCain have to do with this? Second, you have no idea what this addresses. Service members have to REGISTER their privately owned firearms even in states that don't require it. This puts a stop to that crap. A "certain elite class"? That's some pitiful shit. Never served, did you? |
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You're not subject to the UCMJ. There's no registration requirement for you anyway. All this does is codify in law, that commanders may not violate the my firearms rights. You don't even understand the issue. Derp...aherp...I understand it alot more than you understand my way of writing.
Im just sayin. Inhofe wrote a bill that could have been great if he actually used it fort a wider restoration of liberty to EVERYONE. Clueless. This just restores servicemembers to the same level as civilians. |
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Quoted: If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? Yes, I do think it's a good bill. It does not reinforce gun control. It simply states that if the bill were to become law, the DOD wouldn't be able to make service members register their firearms & wouldn't be able to restrict service members from making any firearms purchases. So if anything, it rolls back gun control a little bit. Because, you see, service members have been more restricted when it comes to gun rights than us civvies have been. Pull your head out of your ass. |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? Col Tanner..... "Infiltrators came up illegal from Mexico. Democratic Undergrounders mostly. They managed to infiltrate ARFCOM forums in the midwest , Several towns down in texas and they wreaked a hell of a lot of havoc.... i here to tell ya...They opened up the door down here, and the whole Brady Bunch & Mayor Daley deciples come walking right through, rolled right up here through the Great Plains....." " |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? You have to start somewhere..... Of course, you stick with your attempt to go forward and see what happens. Whatever comparison you want to make for the baby step process: Start out by just sticking the tip in Start at first base, before you try and go for the score Slowly heat the water with the frog in it because dropping him in hot water will make him jump out With the way the looney left has twisted this country, you need to slowly progress in change. It is what they did to be successful, whether you realize it or not. |
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If Inhofe was a REAL American, he would have introduced a bill that abolished the NFA and all Draconian firearms law. This is rub people... If ANY Senator or ANY Congressman introduces a Bill that does ANYTHING else other than restore the liberty we used to have, they are a fucking traitor. This is not a "good bill". It reinforces gun control and gives more rights and liberties to people who get to play with better weapons than you will ever own. Still think it's a "good" bill? Sheer fucking idiocy. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You're not subject to the UCMJ. There's no registration requirement for you anyway. All this does is codify in law, that commanders may not violate the my firearms rights. You don't even understand the issue. Derp...aherp...I understand it alot more than you understand my way of writing. Im just sayin. Inhofe wrote a bill that could have been great if he actually used it fort a wider restoration of liberty to EVERYONE. When I read posts like yours I honestly wonder if we should restore liberty to EVERYONE. Your first post is among the most inane things I've read on this forum, ever. You should read more and post less. Of course we should restore liberty to everyone. Otherwise it isn't liberty. So, Schadenfreuda is at liberty to post incredibly ignorant statements, and you are at liberty to ignore them.  |
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Quoted: Which services require registration? I've been in 16 years and have never heard of such a requirement or order. Fort or base requirement not branch wide. Unless you live on base like I did for a bit. They made me leave it in the armor. And I got my shotty back dirty.  |
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Which services require registration? I've been in 16 years and have never heard of such a requirement or order. It's not a requirement in any service, and arguably is an illegal practice some bases have begun. Fort Riley was one of those bases, however they just pulled that specific language from the reg. I'm pretty sure someone spoke with JAG
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Which services require registration? I've been in 16 years and have never heard of such a requirement or order. It's not a requirement in any service, and arguably is an illegal practice some bases have begun. They were doing it at every Fort I was stationed at from 87-95 Some more restrictive than others. Some had paper work intended to fuck with you. Ergo change one weapon and you must re-register your entire collection not just make the one change.
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