Posted: 6/2/2010 10:47:49 AM EDT
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The show made a pretty big effort to portray the Kodiak boat, with Bill at the wheel as having a bad King Crab season. They constantly showed them pulling in low number pots, and complaining about it etc.
However, when they show the 'official crab count', the Kodiak was in like 3rd place, with considerably more crab than boats like the Bandit who are portrayed as having an excellent season. Why is this? Is it because the Kodiak is a bigger boat, with more deck hands to pay or something, thus needing a bigger haul to equal some of the other boats? |
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The troops are always going to complain. I've got some that would complain about the color lipstick Jessica Biel left on their cock. lol 
It's not just the crew, but Bill himself. It's not like he's complaining, he's talking about it in general like that's how it was, well after it's all over. They simply just had a poor King Crab season..... but the numbers don't really jive with this. It could even be just something as simple as expectations, but I find it a little confusing. |
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I thought of that, but even at the start of the Opilio season, they still talk about the poor King Crab season they had. Yeah, they made a big deal about how most of the crew is new because the old crew quit after the King season. Exactly. Maybe it has something to do with the cost to operate the boat. Perhaps more than the other boats, thus needing more of a haul to equal. Even this is confusing though, because all boats have quotas and can't go above them. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The troops are always going to complain. I've got some that would complain about the color lipstick Jessica Biel left on their cock. lol It's not just the crew, but Bill himself. It's not like he's complaining, he's talking about it in general like that's how it was, well after it's all over. They simply just had a poor King Crab season..... but the numbers don't really jive with this. It could even be just something as simple as expectations, but I find it a little confusing. Even though there final numbers looked pretty good, when you take into consideration the costs of the additional fuel and bait required to stay out there longer to get those numbers, it really cuts into the shares paid out to everyone. |
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| It probably has alot to do with how much fuel you use as well. I imagine you want to get your qouta as quickly as possible to keep your overhead down. If they took a week longer than they expected to catch their qouta, there is no telling how much unexpected gas they burned. Just a guess though. |
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I thought of that, but even at the start of the Opilio season, they still talk about the poor King Crab season they had. Yeah, they made a big deal about how most of the crew is new because the old crew quit after the King season. Exactly. Maybe it has something to do with the cost to operate the boat. Perhaps more than the other boats, thus needing more of a haul to equal. Even this is confusing though, because all boats have quotas and can't go above them. The faster you are done pulling in your quota, the cheaper it costs you per pound of crab harvested. This must be it. Just simply operating costs. The season wasn't bad in the sense they had low numbers, but rather the amount of time and resources they used to finally get to that number. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I thought of that, but even at the start of the Opilio season, they still talk about the poor King Crab season they had. Yeah, they made a big deal about how most of the crew is new because the old crew quit after the King season. Exactly. Maybe it has something to do with the cost to operate the boat. Perhaps more than the other boats, thus needing more of a haul to equal. Even this is confusing though, because all boats have quotas and can't go above them. The faster you are done pulling in your quota, the cheaper it costs you per pound of crab harvested. This must be it. Just simply operating costs. The season wasn't bad in the sense they had low numbers, but rather the amount of time and resources they used to finally get to that number. How do they get their "quota" or share? Do they bid on it or buy it from another operation? |
| Yeh they do alright every year. Opi's Kings's whatever They do ok. And like everyone said ... It probably took 1-2 weeks to film all that and they just show segments to add drama. Around here we call'em 'TV Boats' and they tend to get a lot of flack from the other 'real boats' about playing up to the drama and talking all the time. You know ...break out a camera everybody turns into John Wayne. When they first started the show all the film crews came here to Kodiak. Now we hardly ever see them but we have film crews from everywhere else....Disc, NatGeo, History, BBC, Nature, Disney etc... |
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I thought of that, but even at the start of the Opilio season, they still talk about the poor King Crab season they had. Yeah, they made a big deal about how most of the crew is new because the old crew quit after the King season. Exactly. Maybe it has something to do with the cost to operate the boat. Perhaps more than the other boats, thus needing more of a haul to equal. Even this is confusing though, because all boats have quotas and can't go above them. The faster you are done pulling in your quota, the cheaper it costs you per pound of crab harvested. This must be it. Just simply operating costs. The season wasn't bad in the sense they had low numbers, but rather the amount of time and resources they used to finally get to that number. How do they get their "quota" or share? Do they bid on it or buy it from another operation? I have no idea how the crab quotas are figured. I'd be interested in knowing that too. I do know it was a fairly recent change, like within the last 10 years, in an effort to keep things safer. |
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I thought of that, but even at the start of the Opilio season, they still talk about the poor King Crab season they had. Yeah, they made a big deal about how most of the crew is new because the old crew quit after the King season. Exactly. Maybe it has something to do with the cost to operate the boat. Perhaps more than the other boats, thus needing more of a haul to equal. Even this is confusing though, because all boats have quotas and can't go above them. The faster you are done pulling in your quota, the cheaper it costs you per pound of crab harvested. This must be it. Just simply operating costs. The season wasn't bad in the sense they had low numbers, but rather the amount of time and resources they used to finally get to that number. How do they get their "quota" or share? Do they bid on it or buy it from another operation? The quotas were established about 4-5 years ago by the Ak Dept of Fish and game... based on the size of your boat and your 5 year avg for catches. Some people opt to "sell" or "Rent" their quotas to another Capt to fish. They take part of the profit boats gets to catch more. |
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I thought of that, but even at the start of the Opilio season, they still talk about the poor King Crab season they had. Yeah, they made a big deal about how most of the crew is new because the old crew quit after the King season. Exactly. Maybe it has something to do with the cost to operate the boat. Perhaps more than the other boats, thus needing more of a haul to equal. Even this is confusing though, because all boats have quotas and can't go above them. The faster you are done pulling in your quota, the cheaper it costs you per pound of crab harvested. This must be it. Just simply operating costs. The season wasn't bad in the sense they had low numbers, but rather the amount of time and resources they used to finally get to that number. How do they get their "quota" or share? Do they bid on it or buy it from another operation? The quotas were established about 4-5 years ago by the Ak Dept of Fish and game... based on the size of your boat and your 5 year avg for catches. Some people opt to "sell" or "Rent" their quotas to another Capt to fish. They take part of the profit boats gets to catch more. Interesting, thanks. |
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The troops are always going to complain. I've got some that would complain about the color lipstick Jessica Biel left on their cock. lol
It's not just the crew, but Bill himself. It's not like he's complaining, he's talking about it in general like that's how it was, well after it's all over. They simply just had a poor King Crab season..... but the numbers don't really jive with this. It could even be just something as simple as expectations, but I find it a little confusing. Even though there final numbers looked pretty good, when you take into consideration the costs of the additional fuel and bait required to stay out there longer to get those numbers, it really cuts into the shares paid out to everyone. I may be wrong but didn't the Kodiak also have a signifiacant number of dead crabs when it came time to off load?......due to the extended time spent at sea. Their King season was crap....Opies seem to be starting a bit better. RG |
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The troops are always going to complain. I've got some that would complain about the color lipstick Jessica Biel left on their cock. lol
It's not just the crew, but Bill himself. It's not like he's complaining, he's talking about it in general like that's how it was, well after it's all over. They simply just had a poor King Crab season..... but the numbers don't really jive with this. It could even be just something as simple as expectations, but I find it a little confusing. Even though there final numbers looked pretty good, when you take into consideration the costs of the additional fuel and bait required to stay out there longer to get those numbers, it really cuts into the shares paid out to everyone. I may be wrong but didn't the Kodiak also have a signifiacant number of dead crabs when it came time to off load?......due to the extended time spent at sea. Their King season was crap....Opies seem to be starting a bit better. RG Something like 20,000 lbs which ate into the quota and profit. |
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Yeah, they did have a bunch that were dead, but they don't count toward their total crab count at the end. Thanks for that confirmation.......you'd think there'd be some penalty to pay, aside from the obvious "you're not getting paid for the dead ones" penalty...conservation/Fish & Game wise. RG |
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Yeah, they did have a bunch that were dead, but they don't count toward their total crab count at the end. Thanks for that confirmation.......you'd think there'd be some penalty to pay, aside from the obvious "you're not getting paid for the dead ones" penalty...conservation/Fish & Game wise. RG Perhaps there is if the number is high enough. Such a waste.... you'd think since they are just barely dead, and still nice and cold and whatnot they'd be able to use them. |
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this season has been more over dramatic than the others This. Usually I used to like watching the Northwestern, but shit are they making a big deal out of this whole Edgar thing. It's not like he had a hip replacement in the off season, he hurts every fucking year. But now, that's all it is...drama with Sig and Edgar rather than shit that is actually relevant. |
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Yeah, they did have a bunch that were dead, but they don't count toward their total crab count at the end. Thanks for that confirmation.......you'd think there'd be some penalty to pay, aside from the obvious "you're not getting paid for the dead ones" penalty...conservation/Fish & Game wise. RG Perhaps there is if the number is high enough. Such a waste.... you'd think since they are just barely dead, and still nice and cold and whatnot they'd be able to use them. I was thinking the same thing......send them off to be ground up as fertilizer, cat food, anything if they can't be used for human consumption, but simply dumping them into a dumpster and hauling them off to the land fill......perhaps they were utilized in some way and we just don't see that aspect on the show RG. |
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this season has been more over dramatic than the others This. Usually I used to like watching the Northwestern, but shit are they making a big deal out of this whole Edgar thing. It's not like he had a hip replacement in the off season, he hurts every fucking year. But now, that's all it is...drama with Sig and Edgar rather than shit that is actually relevant. Assuming that the editing is consistent with reality, Edgar is doing the age-old "I want to leave but I don't want to quit, so I'll become a liability" dance. Ow, my back! |