Posted: 5/28/2010 6:46:45 AM EDT
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This is a joint Italian-Soviet movie that came out before the end of the Cold War about the Soviet War in Afghanistan. Soviet Veterans regard this as the most "accurate" portrayal of the war. The movie was made with the support of the Red Army. ETA: I'll ditch the link but if you want to watch type "Afganskiy Izlom" into Youtube. Part 1, the rest is also available on Youtube in 12 other parts.  (No subtitles, Russian) |
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that place is burned into my mind like nothing else. i want to go back so badly shhhhh. don't let the wives hear you. My NCOIC from Afghanistan and I work in the same office now. We don't even have to say it. We just look at each other and shake our heads. Its all down hill from there. Even if you went back, it wouldn't be the same. |
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that place is burned into my mind like nothing else. i want to go back so badly shhhhh. don't let the wives hear you. My NCOIC from Afghanistan and I work in the same office now. We don't even have to say it. We just look at each other and shake our heads. Its all down hill from there. Even if you went back, it wouldn't be the same. i know man. i still want to go though, its like i left a job unfinished. i get the vets that go back to vietnam and france and what not. i tried explaining it and the only way i can is that for a year it was the worst place in the world and for the rest of my life, it was the best thing i ever did. theres just something about it, iraq wasnt even close. not at all. oh well, im on a rotation in 2011. guess ill just have to wait. |
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that place is burned into my mind like nothing else. i want to go back so badly shhhhh. don't let the wives hear you. My NCOIC from Afghanistan and I work in the same office now. We don't even have to say it. We just look at each other and shake our heads. Its all down hill from there. Even if you went back, it wouldn't be the same. i know man. i still want to go though, its like i left a job unfinished. i get the vets that go back to vietnam and france and what not. i tried explaining it and the only way i can is that for a year it was the worst place in the world and for the rest of my life, it was the best thing i ever did. theres just something about it, iraq wasnt even close. not at all. oh well, im on a rotation in 2011. guess ill just have to wait. I know the feeling, sort of, I did a tour in Iraq an think about goin back constantly...but know it wont be the same, not the same unit, etc. Is it the same thing going to different theaters? |
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that place is burned into my mind like nothing else. i want to go back so badly shhhhh. don't let the wives hear you. My NCOIC from Afghanistan and I work in the same office now. We don't even have to say it. We just look at each other and shake our heads. Its all down hill from there. Even if you went back, it wouldn't be the same. i know man. i still want to go though, its like i left a job unfinished. i get the vets that go back to vietnam and france and what not. i tried explaining it and the only way i can is that for a year it was the worst place in the world and for the rest of my life, it was the best thing i ever did. theres just something about it, iraq wasnt even close. not at all. oh well, im on a rotation in 2011. guess ill just have to wait. I know the feeling, sort of, I did a tour in Iraq an think about goin back constantly...but know it wont be the same, not the same unit, etc. Is it the same thing going to different theaters? not for me it wasnt, i was 19 and strait outta AIT in afghanistan, my last tour i was in iraq as a sergeant. i hated that place and i miss it like i miss a hole in my head. but afghanistan just eats up at me. there isint a day that goes by i dont wish i could go back. i think it was because it was my first real taste of what the army and war is like. and i was so damn impressionable. iraq was like a big fucking joke. it was hyped and by the time i got there it was all over. im sure its different for the OIF1 and hell 5-6 but for me it was passed all that. not saying it wasnt the wild west before, just that i missed that part. maybe im just different. until then i keep volunteering, perfecting my gear and reading/watching everything i can on it. in anticipation for my next tour and a better feeling of understanding and achievement that i think will help me not miss it so much. |
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snip I'm thinking of getting back in an volunteering for the first unit rotating to Afghanistan, just not sure if I'm tricking myself thinking it's going to be the great thing like what my first deployment was. Yah, Iraq was a whole 'nother animal, sorry you missed out on all the fun but sounds like you got some in Afghanistan. ETA: don't wanna delude myself I mean, but I got that same feeling of leaving shit undone |
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snip I'm thinking of getting back in an volunteering for the first unit rotating to Afghanistan, just not sure if I'm tricking myself thinking it's going to be the great thing like what my first deployment was. Yah, Iraq was a whole 'nother animal, sorry you missed out on all the fun but sounds like you got some in Afghanistan. ETA: don't wanna delude myself I mean, but I got that same feeling of leaving shit undone try it out man, good luck! i think youll like it |
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that place is burned into my mind like nothing else. i want to go back so badly shhhhh. don't let the wives hear you. My NCOIC from Afghanistan and I work in the same office now. We don't even have to say it. We just look at each other and shake our heads. Its all down hill from there. Even if you went back, it wouldn't be the same. I just went back. It wasn't the same. Biggest mistake of my life. |
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that place is burned into my mind like nothing else. i want to go back so badly shhhhh. don't let the wives hear you. My NCOIC from Afghanistan and I work in the same office now. We don't even have to say it. We just look at each other and shake our heads. Its all down hill from there. Even if you went back, it wouldn't be the same. I just went back. It wasn't the same. Biggest mistake of my life. see thats what I didn't wanna hear, oh well still beats workin a in a box in some dumbass office |
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Quoted: If we hadn't gotten involved the Russians would have defeated those savages for sure. But it's one of the things that helped defeat communism, so we had to do it. Or so they say...  Afghanistan certainly helped with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Another good film is "Five Months in Herat". It's on You Tube. I've seen some footage from that film that didn't make the final cut for some reason or another. That was back in 1986. It made it perfectly clear to me that the Stinger missile was the reason the Mujaheddin were able to fight the Russians. I remember the "good old days" when the Russians were getting worked over in Afghanistan. I'm so glad we're not repeating their mistakes. |
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...snip... theres just something about it, iraq wasnt even close. not at all. oh well, im on a rotation in 2011. guess ill just have to wait. I know the feeling, sort of, I did a tour in Iraq an think about goin back constantly...but know it wont be the same, not the same unit, etc. Is it the same thing going to different theaters? Iraq and Afghanistan are just about exact opposites of each other...GENERAL examples: IZ: city fighting, AF: country fighting; IZ: whole bunch of largely ineffective IEDs, AF: small number of highly effective IEDs; IZ: they all hated each other and they all hated us, AF: 90% of the population hates the Talibs and like us; IZ: largely unorganized fighters, AF: well organized fighters. And they've both morphed over time. Iraq the early days were good, then RoE tightened up. RoE in 'stan was always tighter in many ways and is getting worse. |
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...snip... theres just something about it, iraq wasnt even close. not at all. oh well, im on a rotation in 2011. guess ill just have to wait. I know the feeling, sort of, I did a tour in Iraq an think about goin back constantly...but know it wont be the same, not the same unit, etc. Is it the same thing going to different theaters? Iraq and Afghanistan are just about exact opposites of each other...GENERAL examples: IZ: city fighting, AF: country fighting; IZ: whole bunch of largely ineffective IEDs, AF: small number of highly effective IEDs; IZ: they all hated each other and they all hated us, AF: 90% of the population hates the Talibs and like us; IZ: largely unorganized fighters, AF: well organized fighters. And they've both morphed over time. Iraq the early days were good, then RoE tightened up. RoE in 'stan was always tighter in many ways and is getting worse. Sounds about right. |
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that place is burned into my mind like nothing else. i want to go back so badly shhhhh. don't let the wives hear you. My NCOIC from Afghanistan and I work in the same office now. We don't even have to say it. We just look at each other and shake our heads. Its all down hill from there. Even if you went back, it wouldn't be the same. "The real problem was being able to stick it out, to sit in an office under the orders of a wee man in a dark gray suit and look out of the window and recall the bush country, the waving palms, the smell of sweat and cordite, the grunts of the men hauling jeeps over the river crossings, the copper-tasting fears just before the attack, and the wild, cruel joy of being alive afterward. To remember, and then go back to the ledgers and the commuter train, that was impossible. He knew he would eat his heart out if it ever came to that."
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If we hadn't gotten involved the Russians would have defeated those savages for sure. But it's one of the things that helped defeat communism, so we had to do it. Or so they say... I doubt the Russians would ever have achieved a true victory over here...for one, they did not have the support of ANY of the people. They send DIVISIONS into the Panshir after Massoud and couldn't even find him to defeat him; let alone the rest of the country. |