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5/20/2010 10:32:22 PM EDT



http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20005458-38.html

House votes to expand national DNA arrest database









Millions of Americans arrested for but not convicted of crimes will
likely have their DNA forcibly extracted and added to a national
database,
according to a bill approved by the U.S. House of
Representatives on Tuesday.








By a 357 to 32 vote,
the House approved legislation
that will pay state governments to require DNA samples, which could
mean drawing blood with a needle, from adults "arrested for" certain
serious crimes. Not one Democrat voted against the database measure,
which would hand out about $75 million to states that agree to make such
testing mandatory.








"We should allow law enforcement to use all the technology available to
them...to reduce expensive and unjust false convictions, bring closure
to victims by solving cold cases, better identify criminals, and keep
those who commit violent crime from walking the streets," said Rep.
Harry Teague, the New Mexico Democrat who sponsored the bill.






 
5/20/2010 10:34:46 PM EDT
[#1]
How rapidly can we fuck ourselves like England?

That is the only question.
5/20/2010 10:35:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Good luck with that!
5/20/2010 10:37:48 PM EDT
[#3]
MOLON LABE

You had better stock up on tin foil now before there's a rush and your thoughts are vulnerable to government seizure.
5/20/2010 10:38:16 PM EDT
[#4]
You do realize that if you are arrested you get finger-printed and photographed regardless if you are convicted of anything.


That doesn't go away...





ETA ––––––––––––- Don't join the military...




5/20/2010 10:40:19 PM EDT
[#5]
The only way to get rid of DNA records is fire...

5/20/2010 10:41:01 PM EDT
[#6]







Quoted:
You do realize that if you are arrested you get finger-printed and photographed regardless if you are convicted of anything.
That doesn't go away...

I've already been finger printed because I have a concealed carry
permit, by choice...  Having a needle shoved into a arm by force is
another story,  Especially without a trial and or a conviction.





 
5/20/2010 10:56:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

Quoted:

You do realize that if you are arrested you get finger-printed and photographed regardless if you are convicted of anything.


That doesn't go away...



I've already been finger printed because I have a concealed carry permit, by choice...  Having a needle shoved into a arm by force is another story,  Especially without a trial and or a conviction.  


its not a needle, its called a Buccal swab.  They just run a Q-tip around your mouth.  Just to let you know.
5/20/2010 10:58:54 PM EDT
[#8]




Quoted:

You do realize that if you are arrested you get finger-printed and photographed regardless if you are convicted of anything.





That doesn't go away...
ETA ––––––––––––- Don't join the military...


Yup...our DNA's on file. They say it's for identification (due to the horrifici ways one can die in battle).



Oh..and fingerprints. They got those from me, too. Part of the OCS application.

5/20/2010 10:59:15 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:



You do realize that if you are arrested you get finger-printed and photographed regardless if you are convicted of anything.





That doesn't go away...
I've already been finger printed because I have a concealed carry permit, by choice...  Having a needle shoved into a arm by force is another story,  Especially without a trial and or a conviction.  




its not a needle, its called a Buccal swab.  They just run a Q-tip around your mouth.  Just to let you know.


that makes me feel so much better!    
 




 
5/20/2010 11:21:43 PM EDT
[#10]
You will not touch my DNA.

If you want to take my DNA,


Ima take suma yozz......................

5/20/2010 11:24:02 PM EDT
[#11]
As long as they have a hot female extract my DNA through my moan maker I'm willing to compromise my freedoms.
5/21/2010 12:09:43 AM EDT
[#12]
I am really getting sick of this country. I do not take any blood test as a friend that works at a big lab stated that the federal government and corporations doing genetic research pays them to run unauthorized dna test on samples they have in their possession.
5/21/2010 12:56:52 AM EDT
[#13]
The fingerprints and DNA taken by the military for remains identification are protected by law.  You cannot use them for identification of criminal suspects.  For now.  In TX, police can arrest for any violation of the law except speeding and open container.  The new federal standard is DNA for every arrestee.  I'd be pissed if I got my DNA, prints and photo's in a Federal database just for a class C misdemeanor.
5/21/2010 1:28:04 AM EDT
[#14]




Quoted:

The fingerprints and DNA taken by the military for remains identification are protected by law. You cannot use them for identification of criminal suspects. For now. In TX, police can arrest for any violation of the law except speeding and open container. The new federal standard is DNA for every arrestee. I'd be pissed if I got my DNA, prints and photo's in a Federal database just for a class C misdemeanor.




The "for now" part is key. I wouldn't be shocked to see it released from those protections...just in case.



I imagine at some point it'll be an "at birth" requirement with the DNA.
5/21/2010 1:30:30 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Good luck with that!


indeed - where is the ACLU when you need them
5/21/2010 1:45:32 AM EDT
[#16]
What makes you think your samples weren't already taken...and this is how they break it to you?

Just sayin'