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4/19/2010 7:01:40 AM EDT
Is it out yet?  Anyone follow this stuff and have any updates?  Everything I'm finding is old.
4/19/2010 7:02:32 AM EDT
[#1]
im waiting
4/19/2010 8:36:28 AM EDT
[#2]
Not yet.  I've been haning out on the Droid Forums and haven't seen anything just yet.
4/19/2010 8:50:48 AM EDT
[#3]
well they need to hurry the fuck up with it.
4/19/2010 9:01:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
well they need to hurry the fuck up with it.


Be prepared to wait for more.  Adobe had been promising flash for Android devises for the first half of this year.  Now they are saying it won't be till the last half of this year.
4/19/2010 9:03:00 AM EDT
[#5]
My patience is wearing thin, but it'll be worth it. The moment it's released, I'll be fast at work with a mobile version of my live video site (it's impossible to do what I do, with HTML5 at present).
4/19/2010 9:09:19 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


My patience is wearing thin, but it'll be worth it. The moment it's released, I'll be fast at work with a mobile version of my live video site (it's impossible to do what I do, with HTML5 at present).


Can you broadcast the audio using Shoutcast?  



I have Droid Live Lite on the phone and would enjoy at least listening in.  



 
4/19/2010 9:12:29 AM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


My patience is wearing thin, but it'll be worth it. The moment it's released, I'll be fast at work with a mobile version of my live video site (it's impossible to do what I do, with HTML5 at present).


No, I think you are just a close minded simple bastard that HATES good things and puppies. If you cared about being a progressive lover of Children, you would stop being so lame and get on board the HTML5 lowered expectations bandwagon. The lowest common denominator is the new black. DUHHH.




 
4/19/2010 9:13:37 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


My patience is wearing thin, but it'll be worth it. The moment it's released, I'll be fast at work with a mobile version of my live video site (it's impossible to do what I do, with HTML5 at present).


I really want to see the details of that.  I was thinking of doing something similar for storm chasing.



 
4/19/2010 9:14:45 AM EDT
[#9]
thanks for getting my hopes up.
4/19/2010 9:18:24 AM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:





Quoted:

My patience is wearing thin, but it'll be worth it. The moment it's released, I'll be fast at work with a mobile version of my live video site (it's impossible to do what I do, with HTML5 at present).


Can you broadcast the audio using Shoutcast?  



I have Droid Live Lite on the phone and would enjoy at least listening in.  

 
Just the audio, yeah.



The thing is, it's kind of a pain. I'd have to setup a Shoutcast server (I refuse to let somebody else handle this), and I absolutely do NOT want the stream listed in any directory. At all. The other pain, is that I'd have to run an encoder just for Shoutcast alongside my Flash Media Encoder. The problem there, is it means having two encoders share the audio line-in simultaneously, which isn't supported on my hardware.



I can work around that, by using virtual sound drivers that source my real audio, and encode off that. But really, it's complicated enough as it is.



Or, Adobe can hurry up with Flash on Android, so that I can stop pondering hack-ish solutions to the problem.






 
4/19/2010 9:19:17 AM EDT
[#11]
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/

The upbeat sounding article.....until you realize it's really the CEO of Adobe saying they won't meet their own deadline and has pushed Adobe for Android back
4/19/2010 9:22:09 AM EDT
[#12]
the CEO of Adobe announced that it was coming second half of 2010 a few weeks ago. This is contrary to the date adobe has been publishing for the last year of first half of 2010. Last week they recanted again and said it was due first half of 2010. Ceo that doesn't know what the company is doing or a company that isnt updated on their CEO's plan? Either way I wouldn't sweat it. Most things in the mobile world take longer then originally announced. Unless you have an iphone. Then you get exactly what you were promised on the date it was promises....just 2 years behind everyone else....
4/19/2010 9:38:47 AM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:





Quoted:

My patience is wearing thin, but it'll be worth it. The moment it's released, I'll be fast at work with a mobile version of my live video site (it's impossible to do what I do, with HTML5 at present).


I really want to see the details of that.  I was thinking of doing something similar for storm chasing.

 


You wanna do it on the road, live (not pre-recorded)? Assumming you want to roll your own from scratch like I did, briefly, you'll need:



Server-side:

Flash Media Streaming Server (around $1,000)

A suitable server to run it, with enough bandwidth to support the clients. I lease a virtual dedicated Win2k3 server from GoDaddy for this. I get 500GB/mo bandwidth for $35/mo and console/Administrator access to the virtual machine (I can do what I want with it).

A domain name, and some DNS hosting (I just use GoDaddy)

A web server. I use the same virtual, and fire up IIS.

Create the HTML/CSS/Javascript to taste. For the embedded Flash player, I use the Open Source Flowplayer. The current/active listener counts were custom done by your truly, with a PHP web service I wrote, that queries the Streaming Server admin interface at regular intervals.



Client-side:

Flash Media Encoder (free download from Adobe). Your camera and audio sources need to be recognizable as such in Windows.

An EVDO card from either Sprint or Verizon (I use Sprint). Note that you'll be limited to 5GB of bandwidth, per month. I don't have this limitation (I was grandfathered in), but if you're only using it periodically while mobile, you should be fine. $70/mo, with all the taxes and what not.
Alternatively, you can just use a free hosted solution like justin.tv or ustream.tv. They'll have ads over your video and what not (and you don't have complete and total control over the entire experience from end-to-end), but it's free and stupid easy.



 
4/19/2010 10:07:53 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:

My patience is wearing thin, but it'll be worth it. The moment it's released, I'll be fast at work with a mobile version of my live video site (it's impossible to do what I do, with HTML5 at present).


I really want to see the details of that.  I was thinking of doing something similar for storm chasing.

 


You wanna do it on the road, live (not pre-recorded)? Assumming you want to roll your own from scratch like I did, briefly, you'll need:



Server-side:

Flash Media Streaming Server (around $1,000)

A suitable server to run it, with enough bandwidth to support the clients. I lease a virtual dedicated Win2k3 server from GoDaddy for this. I get 500GB/mo bandwidth for $35/mo and console/Administrator access to the virtual machine (I can do what I want with it).

A domain name, and some DNS hosting (I just use GoDaddy)

A web server. I use the same virtual, and fire up IIS.

Create the HTML/CSS/Javascript to taste. For the embedded Flash player, I use the Open Source Flowplayer. The current/active listener counts were custom done by your truly, with a PHP web service I wrote, that queries the Streaming Server admin interface at regular intervals.



Client-side:

Flash Media Encoder (free download from Adobe). Your camera and audio sources need to be recognizable as such in Windows.

An EVDO card from either Sprint or Verizon (I use Sprint). Note that you'll be limited to 5GB of bandwidth, per month. I don't have this limitation (I was grandfathered in), but if you're only using it periodically while mobile, you should be fine. $70/mo, with all the taxes and what not.
Alternatively, you can just use a free hosted solution like justin.tv or ustream.tv. They'll have ads over your video and what not (and you don't have complete and total control over the entire experience from end-to-end), but it's free and stupid easy.

 
Like you, I'd like to have complete control end to end.  I may settle with just uploading a pic every 10 seconds or so.





Did you ever get a chance to play with that Big Brother GPS app for the Droid?





 
4/19/2010 1:35:33 PM EDT
[#15]
pardon my ignorance............. , but what is the lack of Flash Player keeping Droid owners from doing? I'm looking to upgrade to a new Droid in the next couple weeks and have been trying to get up to speed on it's capabilities and shortcomings. As a basic phone user what would Flash add to the mix?
4/19/2010 1:38:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/

The upbeat sounding article.....until you realize it's really the CEO of Adobe saying they won't meet their own deadline and has pushed Adobe for Android back

That statement was revised:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/adobe-says-no-delays-to-flash-10-1-ceo-was-just-talking-hardwar/

Flash 10.1 itself will still be arriving "to first mobile platforms including Android ... before the end of the first half of 2010.
4/19/2010 1:39:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
pardon my ignorance............. , but what is the lack of Flash Player keeping Droid owners from doing? I'm looking to upgrade to a new Droid in the next couple weeks and have been trying to get up to speed on it's capabilities and shortcomings. As a basic phone user what would Flash add to the mix?

Some websites won't work.
Things like Youtube won't work, but there are apps to play youtube videos.
4/19/2010 1:50:26 PM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:


pardon my ignorance............. , but what is the lack of Flash Player keeping Droid owners from doing? I'm looking to upgrade to a new Droid in the next couple weeks and have been trying to get up to speed on it's capabilities and shortcomings. As a basic phone user what would Flash add to the mix?


It's used on a lot of websites (including my own).



For reference, NO smartphones (at present) support Flash.



 
4/19/2010 2:02:27 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/

The upbeat sounding article.....until you realize it's really the CEO of Adobe saying they won't meet their own deadline and has pushed Adobe for Android back

That statement was revised:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/adobe-says-no-delays-to-flash-10-1-ceo-was-just-talking-hardwar/

Flash 10.1 itself will still be arriving "to first mobile platforms including Android ... before the end of the first half of 2010.


Well, assuming Adobe schedule meets expectations that's good news.  I missed that follow-up statement.