[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Quit chewing (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/18/2010 8:11:06 PM EDT
Well guys, I am finding that I am needing a little support here. I started chewing in September of last year. I was chewing Cope long cut, and grizzly. I quit back in February for 3 weeks, and then started again as I picked up work. To me work is the hardest place to not use chewing tobacco. So here last week I bought a can of Kodiak I lost it, and then threw a can out the window. I later found the kodiak but threw it out. In essence, I was just looking for some tips and support here to make it stick this time. I am hoping to not use it because of a girl that I am interested in dating, she hates it. 
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Well guys, I am finding that I am needing a little support here. I started chewing in September of last year. I was chewing Cope long cut, and grizzly. I quit back in February for 3 weeks, and then started again as I picked up work. To me work is the hardest place to not use chewing tobacco. So here last week I bought a can of Kodiak I lost it, and then threw a can out the window. I later found the kodiak but threw it out. In essence, I was just looking for some tips and support here to make it stick this time. I am hoping to not use it because of a girl that I am interested in dating, she hates it. It starts out pretty tough. It's like they say, it becomes part of your life and it's a habit as well as a physical addiction. Sunflower seeds and gum are your friends, and of course: GOOD LUCK We're here 
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Dipped almost 30 years. Quit 15 moths ago. I used the nicotine gum for three months. It is tough but you will pull through.
If you get the urge, place a piece of gum where you placed your dip. Now my wife says I getting too fat. 
At least she is happy I quit and I have more money to spend on arfcom vendors. |
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I quit in 2002. Had the doc shove a camera up my nose and down the back of my throat. Never picked it up since. Fortunately that visit showed nothing to worry about but I didnt want to repeat that experience.
I carried it for about a month afterwards in my pocket just to prove to myself it wasnt that I didnt have it with me but I could really do without it. Sometimes I still think about buying some and just doing it occasionally but so far so good. 8 years without it I'd probably get sick picking it up again. |
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I have been chewing for, well, about 38 years now.
The only downside to quitting is having to buy an industrial blender to run stuff like ribs and steak through. And having to buy a lot of straws. Oh... wait... you mean chew, dip, a plug of tabaccy... My bad...
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A can of Skoal is about 5.00 here. I was dipping a can every other day. Approximately 3 cans per week, sometime a more. Call it 20.00 per week on average.
52 weeks in a year, multiplied by 20.00. Just over 1000.00 a year in tobacco. Seems trivial until you add up 4 years of dipping. I stopped just over a month ago and no longer have the craving for the tobacco. I have chewed gum on some days until my jaws were sore, but the physical cravings have gone from a 10 to a 1 day to day. The 'habit' of reaching in my pocket for a dip has gone away. Make it 'hurt' to buy a can. I have a bet going that means I owe 1000.00 to a buddy if I dip again. Ever. 1000.00 bet in perpetuity. Makes it REALLY hard to want to buy a can now. TRG |
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I dipped for 16 years tried quitting many times. I have tried everything, gum, sunflowerseeds, nicorette, beef jerkey, everything.
I recently quit 5 months ago. This time was easy because I wanted to. I think that the only way you can quit is if you really want to. I didn't use anything just woke up threw the can away. If your buddies won't leave you alone don't hang out with them. Don't try to quit because someone else wants you to it won't work! |
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I smoked for many years and quit cold turkey in 95. I picked up dipping when I went back into the military in 2005 and feel that this will be more difficult than quitting smoking. There's a much more potent dose of nicotine in having a dip over having a smoke. It is really hard not to dip in the field, especially when everyone is doing it. |
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www.whyquit.com.
EXCELLENT SITE. Read through as much of everything as you can. Devour the site. Though it focuses more on smokers... it's the same addiction. I've quit both chewing & cigs, and both times, this site was invaluable. Going on 7 years now w/o anything, & I can say with absolute confidence I'll never take another drag/puff again. Next - my advice is this: Give up any notions you have about 'enjoying' chewing, and focus all your mental energy on what it's done to hurt you. If you want to stay quit, you have to learn to hate it. You simply can't go into it with the mindset of "I really like chewing, but I know I need to quit". Because if you do - you'll be right back at it in no time, guaranteed. The only reason why people think they enjoy chewing/smoking is the addiction. They've learned to mistake pleasure for what you're really getting when you take a dip.. a relief from pain. Pain caused by your addiction / withdrawls. It really helped me to think about the tobacco industry in general, who KNOWS their product is highly addictive and causes cancer (among other things, like tooth decay, gum disease, stomach ulcers, etc). If you have any self-respect, willingly funding their enterprise with your hard earned money by buying their poison and killing yourself slowly is beyond ludicrous. Because that's exactly what you're doing. So the next time you think you miss the 'enjoyment' of it, think of the fat cats laughing their asses off, spending your money, while you rot in a hospital bed w/ half your jaw eaten up & 6 months to live. ETA: Cold turkey is the way to go. Again... read the whyquit site. I strongly suggest taking a week off - AWAY from anyone & everyone - isolated in a place where you can simply sleep your days away, or stay active enough with consuming activities. Bring a bunch of benadryl, a shitload of good food, NO BOOZE, and motivational reading. Taking a week off to secure your future is a cheap price to pay. A week won't be the end of it, but it's definitely the hardest time. When you come back to the real world, you'll have enough of a headstart to make it no problem so long as your will remains strong. Could end up being the best camping trip of your life. |
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Step 1- Open fresh can of your favorite snuff. Step 2- Emty the entire can into your pie hole. Step 3- Swallow as much as you can as fast as you can. Step 4- Turn several shades of green and puke your guts up. Pavlovian conditioning or Bearnaise syndrome. You could literally kill yourself doing this. Not well-advised. |
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Dipping is gross but maybe try Swedish snus as an alternative if you can't quit? It is processed differently than American dip and apparently has much lower levels of carcinogens. I've seen studies showing no link between cancer and snus in fact. It's also worth noting that Sweden and Norway have the lowest incidence of tobacco related cancer in all of Europe. I know that American tobacco companies are marketing snus these days but I'm not sure if it is the same as real Swedish stuff.
I don't smoke or dip but when some relatives of mine were visiting from Norway they brought snus that I tried, it is extremely potent and almost made me feel dizzy. It comes loose like dip or in little teabag like packages like in this photo: 
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Quoted: Well guys, I am finding that I am needing a little support here. I started chewing in September of last year. I was chewing Cope long cut, and grizzly. I quit back in February for 3 weeks, and then started again as I picked up work. To me work is the hardest place to not use chewing tobacco. So here last week I bought a can of Kodiak I lost it, and then threw a can out the window. I later found the kodiak but threw it out. In essence, I was just looking for some tips and support here to make it stick this time. I am hoping to not use it because of a girl that I am interested in dating, she hates it. Pie>Dip everyday of the week. I've dipped since junior high, I'm now 27 and recently quit. My teeth were a light yellow and I do have some staining in the crevices on the bottom of my teeth from it. My last g/f hated it but tolerated it, not too sure about the new one. She smokes but has the most beautiful and perfectly shaped pearly white teeth and I don't know if she'd take me dipping too well, I'm sure she thinks its gross as 99% of all hot bitches do. I started using some whitening strips to try and get my teeth whiter and up to par with hers cuz chicks don't wanna kiss dudes with yellow teeth. I've seen my teeth get really white now and don't want to go back to dippin' and making them yellow again. Just think about how much your girl is going to like kissing you if you got good looking white teeth over yellow, stained ones. |
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Dipping is gross but maybe try Swedish snus as an alternative if you can't quit? It is processed differently than American dip and apparently has much lower levels of carcinogens. I've seen studies showing no link between cancer and snus in fact. It's also worth noting that Sweden and Norway have the lowest incidence of tobacco related cancer in all of Europe. I know that American tobacco companies are marketing snus these days but I'm not sure if it is the same as real Swedish stuff. I don't smoke or dip but when some relatives of mine were visiting from Norway they brought snus that I tried, it is extremely potent and almost made me feel dizzy. It comes loose like dip or in little teabag like packages like in this photo: Bullshit. The guy comes on looking for help quitting & you offer a different tobacco product? You're right... you don't smoke or dip. So maybe you should stick to topics you know something about. Sorry - but this is really poor advice. |
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The only way to quit is to stop trying and start doing.
I tried to quit several times. I only had to quit once. I'm on week 9 of quitting cold turkey from cigarettes. Tic Tacs helped me out. Think about this. Once you make it past 3 days without nicotine it will be out of your system. Your brain will want more, you WILL crave it, but it's only mental. You can do it. You deserve to be nicotine free. Your friends and family deserve to have you around. Your kids or future kids deserve to have Dad in their lives for as long as possible. Stop trying to quit and just quit. Oh and you are sending Obama cash every time you buy a can. 
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Dipping is gross but maybe try Swedish snus as an alternative if you can't quit? It is processed differently than American dip and apparently has much lower levels of carcinogens. I've seen studies showing no link between cancer and snus in fact. It's also worth noting that Sweden and Norway have the lowest incidence of tobacco related cancer in all of Europe. I know that American tobacco companies are marketing snus these days but I'm not sure if it is the same as real Swedish stuff. I don't smoke or dip but when some relatives of mine were visiting from Norway they brought snus that I tried, it is extremely potent and almost made me feel dizzy. It comes loose like dip or in little teabag like packages like in this photo: Bullshit. The guy comes on looking for help quitting & you offer a different tobacco product? You're right... you don't smoke or dip. So maybe you should stick to topics you know something about. Sorry - but this is really poor advice. Dear god man. Relax. |
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Dipping is gross but maybe try Swedish snus as an alternative if you can't quit? It is processed differently than American dip and apparently has much lower levels of carcinogens. I've seen studies showing no link between cancer and snus in fact. It's also worth noting that Sweden and Norway have the lowest incidence of tobacco related cancer in all of Europe. I know that American tobacco companies are marketing snus these days but I'm not sure if it is the same as real Swedish stuff. I don't smoke or dip but when some relatives of mine were visiting from Norway they brought snus that I tried, it is extremely potent and almost made me feel dizzy. It comes loose like dip or in little teabag like packages like in this photo: Bullshit. The guy comes on looking for help quitting & you offer a different tobacco product? You're right... you don't smoke or dip. So maybe you should stick to topics you know something about. Sorry - but this is really poor advice. Dear god man. Relax. +1 Go have a dip, it will take the edge off. TRG |
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Pardon me while'st I hurl. 
Geez, I need to quit dipping. |
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Step 1- Open fresh can of your favorite snuff. Step 2- Emty the entire can into your pie hole. Step 3- Swallow as much as you can as fast as you can. Step 4- Turn several shades of green and puke your guts up. Pavlovian conditioning or Bearnaise syndrome. You could literally kill yourself doing this. Not well-advised. Oh please.........He couldnt get a lethal dose down before the projectile vomitting insued. Ask me how I know..... |
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Step 1- Open fresh can of your favorite snuff. Step 2- Emty the entire can into your pie hole. Step 3- Swallow as much as you can as fast as you can. Step 4- Turn several shades of green and puke your guts up. Pavlovian conditioning or Bearnaise syndrome. You could literally kill yourself doing this. Not well-advised. Oh please.........He couldnt get a lethal dose down before the projectile vomitting insued. Ask me how I know..... I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you're probably not a medical professional. |
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Dipping is gross but maybe try Swedish snus as an alternative if you can't quit? It is processed differently than American dip and apparently has much lower levels of carcinogens. I've seen studies showing no link between cancer and snus in fact. It's also worth noting that Sweden and Norway have the lowest incidence of tobacco related cancer in all of Europe. I know that American tobacco companies are marketing snus these days but I'm not sure if it is the same as real Swedish stuff. I don't smoke or dip but when some relatives of mine were visiting from Norway they brought snus that I tried, it is extremely potent and almost made me feel dizzy. It comes loose like dip or in little teabag like packages like in this photo: Bullshit. The guy comes on looking for help quitting & you offer a different tobacco product? You're right... you don't smoke or dip. So maybe you should stick to topics you know something about. Sorry - but this is really poor advice. How about scholarly work supporting my point: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1904463/ "Tobacco smokers who switch to snus will reduce the risks of their tobacco use. Based on the Swedish experience, there is a strong prima facie case on public health and ethical grounds for recommending snus to inveterate smokers who want to reduce their health risks and for considering public policies (such as lower taxes for snus and public information campaigns) to promote its use by smokers." |
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I dipped from the time I was 18 till I was 27. (I smoked during that time also, but started smoking when I was 15.) I stopped smoking when I was 25 and it was easy cause I had the dip to fall back on. Anyway, I told myself that in 2 years I was gonna stop dipping. It was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. The last two weeks, I'd buy a can of dip after work, stick it in my mouth and in 20 minutes be mad at myself and throw the can away. I'd repeat the process the next day.
I think what helped the most was realizing it was mind over matter and being mad at myself for the lack of self-discipline. I also looked up pics of people who'd had oral cancer and that was quite the motivator too!   
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Dipping is gross but maybe try Swedish snus as an alternative if you can't quit? It is processed differently than American dip and apparently has much lower levels of carcinogens. I've seen studies showing no link between cancer and snus in fact. It's also worth noting that Sweden and Norway have the lowest incidence of tobacco related cancer in all of Europe. I know that American tobacco companies are marketing snus these days but I'm not sure if it is the same as real Swedish stuff. I don't smoke or dip but when some relatives of mine were visiting from Norway they brought snus that I tried, it is extremely potent and almost made me feel dizzy. It comes loose like dip or in little teabag like packages like in this photo: Bullshit. The guy comes on looking for help quitting & you offer a different tobacco product? You're right... you don't smoke or dip. So maybe you should stick to topics you know something about. Sorry - but this is really poor advice. How about scholarly work supporting my point: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1904463/ "Tobacco smokers who switch to snus will reduce the risks of their tobacco use. Based on the Swedish experience, there is a strong prima facie case on public health and ethical grounds for recommending snus to inveterate smokers who want to reduce their health risks and for considering public policies (such as lower taxes for snus and public information campaigns) to promote its use by smokers." Well, first off it's one isolated study. It's also based on a rather isolated populace. It has yet to withstand significant peer review. And little has been done to authenticate the results outside of this study. Long story short... it really doesn't mean squat. But even if it did - even the study recognizes that Snuss still carries dangers including cancer & heart disease. And it obviously has a similiar nicotine content (which is a nervous-system poison, and the main addictive substance in tobacco). What did you think made you dizzy? Again - if someone wants to quit, choosing nicotine in a different form is not the way to go about it. |
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Yes, the best choice obviously is to not use tobacco products however realistically that isn't possible throughout the entire population. Harm reduction is an acceptable alternative. 'isn't possible' ... ?? There is no way that it is not possible. It is likely that some are unwilling, but the possibility of not doing it is 100%. Harm reduction? Let me guess, you think passing out clean needles for drug users is acceptable? TRG |
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Yes, the best choice obviously is to not use tobacco products however realistically that isn't possible throughout the entire population. Harm reduction is an acceptable alternative. 'isn't possible' ... ?? There is no way that it is not possible. It is likely that some are unwilling, but the possibility of not doing it is 100%. Harm reduction? Let me guess, you think passing out clean needles for drug users is acceptable? TRG Exactly my thoughts. "Can't be done throughout the entire population?" Why not? Because someone told you it was your statistical responsibility to fail? AGAIN... you admit you don't smoke or dip & obviously don't have any experience using or quitting. So why don't you stick to subjects in which your input is valuable. Insinuating someone "might not be able to quit" is NOT valuable. |
| The evidence that there are still fuckloads of tobacco users even though the dangers of it have been known for a very long time. Likewise, drugs have been illegal for the better part of a century yet they're still a significant problem. Addictive substances are like that. |
| The best advice I can give is to use Nicorette or other gun like product. It will mimic the way you chew in that you have a clump of material that you keep against your gums. After 10-12 weeks, your brain does something weird, and you start to question why the hell you are still using the bland tasting (yet tingly) gum...that's when you are done. |
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Good luck. I'm going through the same thing right now. You have to Break your old habits. The gum and niccorette have helped alot. I chew so much gum my jaw hurts. I have gone from 1.5 - 2 cans a day to a dip every day or two. I've quit this once shortly after getting out of high school and shouldn't of ever started again. Much harder the second time. Just keep your comfort Item (gum,seeds, or whatever) close at all times. You have to want to quit. Thats the most important part of the whole thing. |
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The evidence that there are still fuckloads of tobacco users even though the dangers of it have been known for a very long time. Likewise, drugs have been illegal for the better part of a century yet they're still a significant problem. Addictive substances are like that. If stupidity was addictive, you would be a poster child. TRG |
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The evidence that there are still fuckloads of tobacco users even though the dangers of it have been known for a very long time. Likewise, drugs have been illegal for the better part of a century yet they're still a significant problem. Addictive substances are like that. If stupidity was addictive, you would be a poster child. TRG Nice personal attack. 
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