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3/30/2010 2:25:46 PM EDT
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304739104575154041322442962.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories
Militia Probe Included Undercover FBI Agent



MARCH 30, 2010, 5:16 P.M. ET

WALL ST JOURNAL



By KEITH JOHNSON, ALEX P. KELLOGG, LAUREN ETTER and TIMOTHY W. MARTIN



An undercover agent was part of the federal investigation of a Michigan-based Christian militia group that allegedly planned to spark an uprising against the government by killing police officers, court documents show.



Evidence presented to the grand jury in federal court in Detroit included photographs of Thomas William Piatek, one of nine people indicted Monday in connection with alleged criminal activities by the militia group, known as Hutaree, in southeastern Michigan.



The grand-jury exhibit included sworn testimony of a law-enforcement officer that Mr. Piatek "is the person known by a Cooperating Witness and an undercover FBI agent to be the person who participated in the criminal violations" detailed in the indictment.



The court had to briefly unseal the indictment, issued Tuesday, March 23, in order to correct Mr. Piatek's middle name, which had been incorrectly written in the arrest warrant and indictment as "Edward." The indictment was publicly unsealed in federal court Monday.



A spokesperson at the FBI's Detroit office declined to comment on the undercover agent and any role such an agent may have had in the investigation. A spokesman at the Justice Department in Washington also declined to discuss specifics of the investigation.



Infiltration is a common tactic for law-enforcement officials targeting militia groups. It has been widely used to get inside domestic extremist groups, which have in the past proven easier to infiltrate than Islamic terror groups.



In recent months, the FBI also has used one or more undercover agents or employees to carry out sting operations against suspected Islamic terrorists. Hosam Smadi and Michael Finton were both arrested last fall by the FBI after they conspired with the help of undercover agents to blow up public buildings with car bombs packed with fake explosives.



Hutaree planned to kill an unidentified local law-enforcement officer in April and then attack local, state and federal officers who came to Michigan to attend the funeral, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan said in a 12-page indictment.



Seven members of the group were arraigned in federal court in Detroit, one was arraigned in federal court in the Northern District of Indiana and the last was arrested Monday night. Those arraigned were ordered held without bond until further hearings this week. Federal agents made the arrests after weekend raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana.



The indictment said Hutaree had practiced attacks and other military maneuvers for more than a year, and had planned to use homemade bombs like those used against U.S. forces by insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. The bombs were the key part of the alleged plot to attack the funeral of a law-enforcement officer, the indictment said.



After that attack, the group planned to retreat to a remote "rally point" from which members would resist an expected response by the government, sparking what Hutaree's alleged leader, David Brian Stone, hoped would be a wider uprising against the government, the indictment said. FBI agent Andrew Arena called Hutaree "an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society."



The group, whose name means "Christian Warrior," according to its Web site, didn't respond to emails. The Web site said the group was preparing for "the anti-Christ" and expected to "one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield." The site quotes scripture passages alluding to battle and the sacrifice of lives for a greater cause. The group used tiger-striped camouflage uniforms, the indictment said.



Security officials in Washington have been watching the rejuvenation of the militia movement with unease for the past year. Some of the same conditions that last led to a surge of militias in the early 1990s—a tough economic environment and a Democratic administration in the White House—prevail today, investigators said.



The election of Barack Obama as the country's first African-American president has galvanized some white supremacist in parts of the militia universe. Domestic terrorism from armed groups not connected to Islamic ideology is possible, said Lydia Khalil, a counter-terrorism researcher at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.



Heidi Beirich, director of research for the Southern Poverty Law Center, Montgomery, Ala., said Hutaree has a MySpace page listing more than 300 "friends," some of which are members of other militia groups.



Monday's indictment named Mr. Stone, 45 years old; his wife Tina Mae Stone, 44; and his son Joshua Matthew Stone, 21, all of Clayton, Mich.; Mr. Stone's other son, David Brian Stone Jr., 19, of Adrian, Mich.; and five other men from Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. The indictment said they conspired to engage in armed conflict with law enforcement officials.



Joshua Matthew Stone was arrested by federal authorities in Hillsdale County, Mich., officials said. He was arraigned Tuesday before a U.S. District Court magistrate and was ordered held without bond until a hearing Wednesday.



At the courthouse in Detroit Monday, a woman who identified herself as the elder Mr. Stone's ex-wife and David Brian Stone Jr.'s father, said that she left him "four or five years ago" after she felt he'd become dangerous. "When he went from handguns to big guns, I said, 'Enough,"' said Donna Stone, 44, of Adrian, Mich.



Andrea Harsh, a friend of Donna Stone, said from her trailer in Adrian about 75 miles southwest of Detroit that she had once been engaged to the elder Mr. Stone but found him to be too violent and "I got out." Ms. Harsh said, "He makes it sound like he's out to promote Christianity. But he's not in it for Christ, he's in it to make a name for himself." She added that he "thought he could hide from the government."



According to those women, Mr. Stone lives in a pair of attached trailers at the corner of two dirt roads. In the yard Monday, thee dogs were chained in the yard near an SUV.



On Saturday night, federal agents arrived at the Adrian apartment of Brittany Bryant, Ms. Harsh's daughter and the fiance of David Brian Stone Jr. The younger Mr. Stone had recently moved into the apartment, Ms. Bryant said. Authorities came in with their guns out, she said, and spent about three hours searching the premises, taking, among other things, Bibles, her cellphone, notebooks, a camouflage military jacket and a belt buckle reading, "God, Guns and Guts."



Ms. Bryant said her fiance "did very little" with the Hutaree group. She said he recently got a job at a factory and "was just trying to get his life together."



Saturday afternoon in Sandusky, Ohio, federal agents swarmed a trailer park. Two residents said their two dogs started to bark as federal agents with guns piled out of a yellow truck marked SWAT. They soon emerged with Kristopher T. Sickles, 27, one of those charged Monday, in handcuffs.



The Monks said they'd never met Mr. Sickles, but talked occasionally with his wife, Kelly. "He looked normal to me...nothing stood out about him," Mr. Monk said. Reached by telephone Monday, Ms. Sickles said her husband of three years is "innocent" and "had no idea that any of this was going on."



Also on Saturday night, federal agents showed up in Whiting, Ind., at a two-story brick home where Mr. Piatek, 46, had grown up, neighbors said.



Amanda Behrens, manager of Gusto's Pizza next door, said the tall, lean Mr. Piatek frequently wore Army fatigue pants and combat boots, "but I never suspected he would do anything dangerous. It just seemed like he had a hobby of military stuff." She trusted Mr. Piatek enough that she felt comfortable working night shifts alone because he pledged to keep an eye on her.



Mr. Piatek wasn't home for the raid, but was arrested early Sunday in Clarendon Hills, Ill. News of his fate has rocked Whiting, Indiana, which remains the largely Catholic and Eastern European neighborhood it was decades ago, said longtime resident Melaine Kaminsky, 51. "This doesn't happen in our town," she said, adding that she heard of the raid of Mr. Piatek's home within 15 minutes of it happening. "This is the real deal, this is scary. It's all everybody's talking about."
3/30/2010 2:26:48 PM EDT
[#1]
I think pretty much everyone knew it had to be an insider.

HH
3/30/2010 2:27:12 PM EDT
[#2]
hmmm... I wonder whose idea it was to "kill a cop"....
3/30/2010 2:31:32 PM EDT
[#3]


Watched a show about an undercover fed working in a bike gang.  The top leadership believed this guy was legit/not a fed.





Some guys had their doubts, but the leadership was fooled.





It would be hard to detect these dudes in WHATEVER org/website they infiltrate.
3/30/2010 2:32:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
hmmm... I wonder whose idea it was to "kill a cop"....



Looks like Captain Knucklefuck, Super Operator of the Hutaree there in SE MI.  He spouted off about it on internet radio back in 2008.

There's a link to the audio in the other thread.
3/30/2010 2:32:57 PM EDT
[#5]
"The election of Barack Obama as the country's first African-American president has galvanized some white supremacist in parts of the militia universe."


Really? I'd like to see one example of an anti-black action taking place since Obama got elected. Or are they just trying to stir up racial disharmony and distrust where there is none?

I think think that even the white supremacists are bright enough to realize who #2 and #3 in charge are if they did anything.
3/30/2010 2:33:42 PM EDT
[#6]

whats that joke about the militia?

3/30/2010 2:45:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

whats that joke about the militia?



The members of the militia who aren't nutters are Feds?
3/30/2010 2:46:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:

Watched a show about an undercover fed working in a bike gang.  The top leadership believed this guy was legit/not a fed.


Some guys had their doubts, but the leadership was fooled.


It would be hard to detect these dudes in WHATEVER org/website they infiltrate.


Most of these groups that get infiltrated are full of dumbasses. Dressin up in cammies fondling their guns and talking shit all day long, then they go home get drunk watching TV or porn.

The smart Mofo militias don't fk around with the typical BS described above, and when a stranger comes around, they know how to act and know what to talk about.

Back in the day, there were 3 rules

Shut up!
Shut up!
Shut up!

3/30/2010 2:47:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Tiger stripe camouflage?

What morons. If they'd bought Multicam, they'd all still be on the loose.
3/30/2010 2:47:59 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


I think pretty much everyone knew it had to be an insider.



HH


Yeap



 
3/30/2010 2:48:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Mainstream Militias are nothing more then the FBI/ATF/CIA/USMS/USSS agents informing on each other and one poor bastard that's just there for the range and free donuts.
3/30/2010 2:49:37 PM EDT
[#12]
makes me wonder about all the posters asking when go time is.  i promptly post pics of go time google omage results

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3/30/2010 2:49:47 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


"The election of Barack Obama as the country's first African-American president has galvanized some white supremacist in parts of the militia universe."





Really? I'd like to see one example of an anti-black action taking place since Obama got elected. Or are they just trying to stir up racial disharmony and distrust where there is none?



I think think that even the white supremacists are bright enough to realize who #2 and #3 in charge are if they did anything.



Two words; amber lamps.










 
3/30/2010 2:49:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I think pretty much everyone knew it had to be an insider.

HH


Well that, and posting your "training" vids on the net...
3/30/2010 3:13:20 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Tiger stripe camouflage?

What morons. If they'd bought Multicam, they'd all still be on the loose.


no doubt about it.
3/30/2010 3:21:48 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
"The election of Barack Obama as the country's first African-American president has galvanized some white supremacist in parts of the militia universe."


Really? I'd like to see one example of an anti-black action taking place since Obama got elected. Or are they just trying to stir up racial disharmony and distrust where there is none?

I think think that even the white supremacists are bright enough to realize who #2 and #3 in charge are if they did anything.


It's the same stupidity they put in the DHS report on Domestic Terrorism.  They went after christians, pro-lifers, veterans (8 mentions, no doubt), people concerned about the economy, militias, even mentioned Tim McVeigh, but stated repeatedly there was no evidence whatsoever of any planned attacks. They also claimed "the DHS has determined that right wing extremists pose the greatest threat of domestic terrorism", even though the FBI and ATF have the Earth Liberation Front and Animal Liberation Front listed as the most dangerous domestic terror threats, and everybody on the FBI's "Most Wanted Domestic Terrorists" list is a left wing wacko - ELF, ALF, Black Liberation Army, May 19 Communist Org......all wanted for murder.

The left wing media will jump all over this, even though it's always the left wing idiots who target the police (i.e Bill Ayers, the Dem rioters at the 2004 RNC in NYC). When Democrats get mad they jump up and down, riot (2004 RNC in NYC), put lots of bumper stickers on their cars, create lots of cheesy slogans, beat up people handing out flags, fly planes into IRS buildings, write manifestos and put bombs in the mail, mail envelopes of white powder to Congressman, and slash tires of cars bringing Repubs to the polls. When Democrats in Congress get mad they call the president a war criminal, make up lies about hate crimes and racism, spend, spend, spend, spend...... When Republicans get mad they call/write their Congressman, attend town hall meetings, take actual legal action to defend the Constitution, vote, pay taxes, continue to go to work, attend rallies (Pelosi called the anti-Bush protests "the highest form of Patriotism", then called the Tea Party protesters "UnAmerican"). Its ludicrous, and most libs I know wouldn't have any idea what I'm talking about. They all still don't think their taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts expire, that printing $2 trillion dollars will lead to inflation, or that healthcare costs will continue to rise. I was even told the other day, "You'll be eating your words when you don't have to pay for health insurance any more. It's going to be free, you know".  Stupid really hurts.

I find it interesting that they point out Democratic leadership during tough financial times brings out this kind of reaction. You'd think the Dem leadership would be wondering why their economic policies piss everybody off so much.......
3/31/2010 5:40:25 AM EDT
[#17]
Mor


Militia Chief's Mistrust Festered,
Friends Say





Portrait Emerges of Man Who Despised
Authority;
Undercover Agent Played a Role in Probe


By ALEX
P. KELLOGG
, LAUREN
ETTER
, KEITH
JOHNSON
and TIMOTHY
W. MARTIN
               





The leader of a Michigan militia
group charged this week with conspiring to kill law-enforcement officers
was described Tuesday as a private, family-oriented man who nurtured a
festering mistrust of governmental authority, according to people close
to the family.




"On the inside of this man's brain, something evil lurks, and until

you get to know him, you don't know it," said Andrea Harsh, who was
engaged to David Brian Stone Sr. until the couple broke up last year.












She described Mr. Stone, a trim
45-year-old man who wears his whitish hair cropped short over spectacles
and a bushy gray mustache, as having a "bubbly personality." But he
became consumed by the Hutaree, she said, a southeastern Michigan
militia group that described its members as "Christian warriors."




In an
indictment Monday, federal authorities named Mr. Stone as leader of the
Hutaree and accused him and eight members with plotting to spark an
uprising against the U.S. government by killing police. Along with Mr.
Stone, seven other men and one woman from Michigan, Ohio and Indiana are
in being held without bond on weapons and sedition charges.




The indictment said Hutaree had practiced attacks and other
military
maneuvers for more than a year, and had planned to kill a
law-enforcement officer, then use homemade bombs to attack officers who
attended the funeral.




An undercover agent played a role in the investigation that led to
Monday's indictments. Grand jury testimony by a law enforcement officer
referred to an "undercover FBI agent" who worked on the case. The FBI
declined to comment, but infiltration is a common tactic for
law-enforcement officials targeting domestic militia groups.




Those charged in the case included Mr. Stone's current wife, Tina
Mae
Stone, 44; as well as two sons, David Brian Stone Jr., 19; and Joshua
Matthew Stone 21. Attorneys for Ms. Stone, David Jr. and Joshua declined
to comment Tuesday; the senior Mr. Stone had no attorney as of late
Tuesday.




The Hutaree appears based at Mr. Stone's home, a pair of
dilapidated
house trailers near the intersection of dirt roads in rural Clayton,
Michigan—population 303—about 85 miles southwest of Detroit. The yard
this week held three cars, a dog house, debris and a gun leaning on an
old washing machine.




Family members and acquaintances said Mr. Stone doesn't curse,
smoke
or drink alcohol and was a strict disciplinarian with his sons, whom he
home-schooled from a young age. While he rarely attended church, he
studied the Bible nightly, memorizing long passages, said Ms. Harsh, his
ex-fiance. Several scripture passages appear on the Hutaree Web site.




On his page on the MySpace social-networking site, Mr. Stone, using

the alias of "(RD) Merzonik," listed his interests as "GOD, Guns and
Girls." He said he liked action and science-fiction movies and writes,
"only dead people are true heroes ... so I guess I don't have any." He
listed his hometown as, "Wasteland, America," and 73 MySpace friends
include several state and county militias.




Mr. Stone is listed as a 1982 graduate of Sand Creek High School on

an alumni Web site. Donna Stone, his ex-wife, said she met Mr. Stone in
the mid-1990s when she worked at a deli counter and he was a customer.
She said he was charming and funny.




But Mr. Stone increasingly displayed a stubborn streak, as well as
an
affinity for guns. Ms. Stone, 44, said she left him after about a
decade together. "When he went from handguns to big guns, I said,
'Enough,' " she said.



Court documents reveal an undercover FBI
agent was
part of the investigation of a Michigan-based Christian militia group
that allegedly plotted to spark an uprising against the government by
killing police officers. Plus, in a major push against the health
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sign for stocks.















Ms. Harsh, 40, said she began dating
Mr. Stone in 2008 after meeting him at a plastics recycling factory
where they worked. Mr. Stone showed her a Hutaree business card when
they met, but otherwise said little about the group while they dated for
several months.




After they moved in together, Ms. Harsh said, he spent hours on the

computer, building the group's Web site and searching online for
weapons. "His life was pretty much consumed by the Hutaree," she said.




Mr. Stone despised authority, Ms. Harsh said, particularly "anyone
with a badge." She said his temper finally drove her away last year. Mr.
Stone remarried a few months later.




Ron Gaydosh, 62, said he had known Mr. Stone for more than 15
years,
and frequently invited the Stones over for barbecues. He described Mr.
Stone as a "good guy," with "all-around good kids," and said the family
enjoyed hunting and fishing.




He said Mr. Stone was easily upset by talk of the government. "Some

of the things that upset Dave also upset me," said Mr. Gaydosh, who
belongs to another militia group with no ties to Hutaree. They
frequently discussed survivalist techniques and poked fun at government
officials, he said, but "there was never any violence planned."




Mr. Gaydosh said Mr. Stone didn't like law enforcement officials
driving by and shining lights at Mr. Stone's house, adding that he
always referred to police as "feds." Mr. Stone also didn't like
neighbors complaining about his target shooting, Mr. Gaydosh said.









It's not clear whether Mr. Stone
had money troubles. Ms. Harsh said he was working at Demlow Products, an
auto-industry supplier in Clayton; a person who answered the phone at
the company declined to comment. Mr. Stone and his ex-wife, Donna Stone,
filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection in 1999.
Over the past couple of years, Mr. Stone attracted more Hutaree
members, Ms. Harsh said: "His goal was to have all of the states have at
least one group of Hutaree."




But he scared off some potential recruits. Jon Killman said he
visited Mr. Stone and his sons in December because he was interested in
joining a militia to practice survival skills.










He said Mr. Stone was a gracious host and offered him coffee. But
soon Mr. Killman "got a bad vibe" as the Stones started joking about
police officers who'd been shot in a coffee shop in Washington state.The
family's dining room table
was strewn with shotgun shells, Mr. Killman recalled. The elder Mr.
Stone said the shells would be filled with gunpowder and tied to trip
wires to simulate landmines.



At first "they just seemed like a down-to-earth hillbilly family,"
he
said. "After 20 minutes into the meeting, I realized these guys are not
dealing with a full deck."





Matt Savino, commander of the Lenawee Volunteer Michigan Militia
near
Mr. Stone's home, said in recent months Mr. Stone became "paranoid" and
began asking other militia groups to join in military exercises.









Mr. Stone began talking more about how "the federal government was
coming down on them" and the need to be on the offensive and retain the
element of surprise, Mr. Savino said.






Ms. Harsh said Mr. Stone "always thought he could hide from the
government. He thought he was invincible."





Write to
               Keith Johnson at [email protected], Lauren
Etter at [email protected]
and Timothy W. Martin at [email protected]





nawww really...







 
 
3/31/2010 5:46:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

whats that joke about the militia?



For every 6 militia members:

2 are undercover FBI agents trying to get them to blow something up
1 is an undercover DEA agent trying to get them to sell meth
1 is an undercover ATF agent trying to get them to make pipe bombs
1 is an undercover investigative reporter
1 is a regular dude who showed up so he could have friends to go camping with.

3/31/2010 5:50:56 AM EDT
[#19]
I'd just assume whoever asked me to do anything illegal was law enforcement.


3/31/2010 5:52:32 AM EDT
[#20]
Not trusting the government is SO paranoid and nutty!  And to prove it, we'll infiltrate a federal agent into your circle of friends to spy and gather evidence just to show everybody how dangerously paranoid you are!
3/31/2010 5:55:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Tiger stripe camouflage?

What morons. If they'd bought Multicam, they'd all still be on the loose.


lol
3/31/2010 6:08:54 AM EDT
[#22]
So I have to ask....which posters here on Arfcom are FBI?


3/31/2010 6:11:26 AM EDT
[#23]
I'm pretty sure he's the one with the great plan to kill the po-po.
3/31/2010 6:12:08 AM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


So I have to ask....which posters here on Arfcom are FBI?






On ARFCOM?....TONS!!!








 
3/31/2010 6:25:54 AM EDT
[#25]
Add it to the existing 32 page thread.

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