Posted: 3/12/2010 4:24:33 PM EDT
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I ranked in the top 6% of shooters with my pistol at the academy (there were only 16 of us out of 275), so I think I have what it takes. I see that they have numerous two-day courses all over NY, and if the opportunity presents itself, I'd like to attend with my M1A EBR.
For those here who have attended this course, what was your experience? How did you like it? Did you qualify for Rifleman? Which rifle did you use? I'd like to hear all you guys have to say about it, since I'd seen it mentioned here a while ago and it piqued my interest. |
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Instead of your m1a bring a .22 with iron sights it isn't worth wasting the ammo. Unless you are shooting longer than 25yards then bring the m1. We have a 25yard saturday /600yard sunday shoot up here. So .22s for sat centerfire for sunday. Get a good sling. They teach the basic GI sling so good to have one. I like a tactical sling but they don't teach to that. So if you want to follow along with the different sling technigues use a GI sling. and the picture is of my rifleman patch and my spikes .22 well that was an old pic now it looks different.  |
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Bring a 10/22, 3 xtra mags and 2 bricks of ammo. You either want a scope, or good peep aperture iron sights. Shooting jacket, shooting mat, lunch, ears, and a teachable attitude.
Just go with the .22 rimfire and forget about the centerfires. You will be spending time at 25m, learning fundamentals of marksmanship. You wouldn't even want the distraction of a centerfire, anyhow. You will be focusing on trigger control, breathing, NPOA, and the steps necessary to get off your shot. The extra recoil and expense of centerfire is unwanted when you are trying to master these. Get the form nailed down with inexpensive rimfire. Then, you will be ready to apply them to the harder to control and much more expensive centerfires. |
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Usually it is a 25m simulated target so the .22 is totally GTG. Just make sure you bring an accurate one. It is frustrating if your .22 can't shoot well off a bench and then you try to free hand it things just become worse. You want a .22 that can put them all within an inch at 25m. and for the experience it is a weekend of shooting. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Usually it is a 25m simulated target so the .22 is totally GTG. Just make sure you bring an accurate one. It is frustrating if your .22 can't shoot well off a bench and then you try to free hand it things just become worse. You want a .22 that can put them all within an inch at 25m. and for the experience it is a weekend of shooting. Nothing wrong with that. Anything specific you'd recommend for said .22? |
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Worthwhile training. it's not run and gun stuff, it's basic technique- and if you've never had that type of training, you will learn a LOT. For me, who has had that sort of training, it was a great refresher, which I think every rifleman needs periodically. Do it! 
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Quoted:Anything specific you'd recommend for said .22?
Liberty Training Rifle info more from their forum |
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Quoted: Quoted: Usually it is a 25m simulated target so the .22 is totally GTG. Just make sure you bring an accurate one. It is frustrating if your .22 can't shoot well off a bench and then you try to free hand it things just become worse. You want a .22 that can put them all within an inch at 25m. and for the experience it is a weekend of shooting. Nothing wrong with that. Anything specific you'd recommend for said .22? What do you have? If you have a .22 that is close to your goto rifle then use it. people like the 10/22s because they are like an m1a as far as the way they work and are designed. I like the rimfire ARs since I have AR's and don't have an M1a yet. Just make sure it is accurate enough with the ammo you choose. Like any 22 it is important to match the ammo to the gun. The old automatch was great since it was bulk semi target ammo. You just want a gun that will shoot an inch at 25m. Any more and it makes it hard to score if when you are holding on the target the gun won't put the bullets there. If you use irons (rimfire AR) and want to get better scores a NM front post might help because the targets are small. But as you shoot them it gets easier over the course of the day. red dot is nice since you can be a bit more accurate and you can focus on the target instead of the front post. But they are teaching getting your sight picture and shooting with the irons. Optics help you score better but the idea is to do it with irons. I have shot my 604 upper with ciener kit and irons I like this the best for the appleseed. It shoots as good as my spikes and has a longer site radius. but you can use a 10/22 with tek sights or whatever. The most fun I had was shooting one with my old single shot though I am having wrist surgery next month and it may or may not be due to that event. lol And don't make a Liberty training rifle just for the appleseed. Just get a .22 upper for your ar instead. |
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Usually it is a 25m simulated target so the .22 is totally GTG. Just make sure you bring an accurate one. It is frustrating if your .22 can't shoot well off a bench and then you try to free hand it things just become worse. You want a .22 that can put them all within an inch at 25m. and for the experience it is a weekend of shooting. Nothing wrong with that. Anything specific you'd recommend for said .22? What do you have? I don't have any .22. Closest thing would be my .223/5.56x45 
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Quoted: I just assembled a KISS AR-15 I'll be shooting .22 through at the Appleseed next month. Just need a sling now  http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/Shooting/aff3f5f9.jpg is it a 16" middy? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Usually it is a 25m simulated target so the .22 is totally GTG. Just make sure you bring an accurate one. It is frustrating if your .22 can't shoot well off a bench and then you try to free hand it things just become worse. You want a .22 that can put them all within an inch at 25m. and for the experience it is a weekend of shooting. Nothing wrong with that. Anything specific you'd recommend for said .22? What do you have? I don't have any .22. Closest thing would be my .223/5.56x45 Where are you in NY approx? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I just assembled a KISS AR-15 I'll be shooting .22 through at the Appleseed next month. Just need a sling now http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/Shooting/aff3f5f9.jpg is it a 16" middy? Yessir. |
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If you don't have a .22, consider the following:
Option 1 - buy .223 ammo for the weekend: 500 rounds - $200 shipped (best price I saw was Ammo to Go - PMC Bronze) Total - $200 Option 2: Buy a new rifle: Marlin 795 - $125 Extra mag - $20 Tech Sights - $75 550 rounds ammo - $18 Less Marlin Rebate - (-$25) Total - $213 My point: for $13 more than you are already going to spend, you can have another rifle - that is really cheap to shoot and practice with. |
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Quoted: Unless you reload, then you automatically have 500 rounds of plinking ammoIf you don't have a .22, consider the following: Option 1 - buy .223 ammo for the weekend: 500 rounds - $200 shipped (best price I saw was Ammo to Go - PMC Bronze) Total - $200  I do like the idea of another rifle though. |
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I loved the weekend and highly recommend it. You WILL learn something, even if it's something little. Get a set of tech-sights for your rifle, you'll need them. Also, get a cotton GI sling...it's a must.
just go with the assumption that the instructors know more than you (I.e. be teachable) and you'll have a good time....I promise. |