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3/8/2010 5:46:58 PM EDT
The Firestar Series was the now defunct Star company's attempt at a compact pistol.  They were made in 9mm (M43), .40(M40) and .45 ACP (M45).  The 9mm and .40 were the same size, and the .45 was slightly larger.  While compact, they were heavy even by the standards of 20 years ago.  Some would claim this was a good thing because it's all good quality steel (which is true), but I'd still rather have my Glock 26.  Two finishes were available, blued and Starvel.  Starvel was Star's term for brushed nickel.  Don't believe anybody who claims a Star pistol is stainless (I've seen this).

IMO, Star pistols from the late 80s to the end have always been underrated.  Two interesting features that were used in Star's last generation of pistols were:  1) coned barrels   2) slides running inside the frame.  Both would seem unnecessary in a compact pistol, but so be it, it can't hurt.

I'll do the Megastar (perhaps the biggest conventional pistol made in quanity) at a later date.

This is the M45 (single stack 6+1):







3/8/2010 5:50:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Sweet a semi auto blunderbus.








Seriously though what was the idea behind the tapered barrel?




 
3/8/2010 5:51:47 PM EDT
[#2]
The Star guns were solid built and well suited for the job
3/8/2010 5:55:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Sweet a semi auto blunderbus.


Seriously though what was the idea behind the tapered barrel?
 


same as the barrel bushing on a 1911 , repeatability of the barrel / slide alignment
ETA / and during cycling , it won't slow down the slide causing malfuctions
3/8/2010 5:58:19 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Sweet a semi auto blunderbus.


Seriously though what was the idea behind the tapered barrel?
 


The point of a coned barrel is to make a rigid seal with the slide, and allow the barrel to drop for unlocking.  It does a very good job of rigidly aligning the barrel properly.  While it performs like other good methods, it is supposed to wear a lot better.
3/8/2010 6:00:37 PM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


Sweet a semi auto blunderbus.






Seriously though what was the idea behind the tapered barrel?

 


Geometry.  Tilting barrel and slide moving back required this.  1911s have a slight barrel taper with cylindrical barrel bushing.



 
3/8/2010 6:00:39 PM EDT
[#6]
I remember those from back in my sporting goods store days in the early 90's, they were cool and sold well.
3/8/2010 6:05:21 PM EDT
[#7]
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I remember those from back in my sporting goods store days in the early 90's, they were cool and sold well.


Do you remember what the ratio of .45, 9mm, .40 was?
3/8/2010 6:10:28 PM EDT
[#8]
Gotcha. How about the trigger on those guns? Looks rather interesting as well.

 
3/8/2010 6:16:24 PM EDT
[#9]
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Gotcha. How about the trigger on those guns? Looks rather interesting as well.  


Good for a stock trigger...
3/8/2010 6:46:37 PM EDT
[#10]
TRIGGER BITE!!!

For my wife it would have been OK.  For a guy with a man sized hand, prepare to be pinched!

Had one, sold it.
3/8/2010 6:53:06 PM EDT
[#11]
I had a Firestar Plus.

 It's a shame that they went under as Star had some very well built pistols for reasonable $.
3/8/2010 6:54:11 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
The Star guns were solid built and well suited for the job


They also weighted 3 times more then they need too..I owned a m40 and couldn't fine a good way to carry that fucking boat anchor.
3/8/2010 6:58:08 PM EDT
[#13]
I've played with the .45 before, (starvel)   It's astoundingly heavy. As in "My God, a lead pistol"! heavy.  Accuracy was decent but machining was a little rough. It functioned well though.
3/8/2010 6:58:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I remember those from back in my sporting goods store days in the early 90's, they were cool and sold well.


Do you remember what the ratio of .45, 9mm, .40 was?


The 40 was the new hot caliber then and that's what everybody wanted.
3/8/2010 6:59:22 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I had a Firestar Plus.

 It's a shame that they went under as Star had some very well built pistols for reasonable $.


Way ahead of the curve when they came out with the Star PD.  Alloy frame itty bitty pseudo 1911 .45 back in the mid '70s~early '80s.

3/8/2010 7:22:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Friend has a 45,  horrible trigger.
3/8/2010 7:34:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The Star guns were solid built and well suited for the job


They also weighted 3 times more then they need too..I owned a m40 and couldn't fine a good way to carry that fucking boat anchor.


I take it you've held a fully loaded Megastar?
3/8/2010 7:35:43 PM EDT
[#18]
If you want to get technical, that would be a Gen II compact as it came after the Star PD.  






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Model_PD






 
3/8/2010 7:38:25 PM EDT
[#19]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

The Star guns were solid built and well suited for the job




They also weighted 3 times more then they need too..I owned a m40 and couldn't fine a good way to carry that fucking boat anchor.




I take it you've held a fully loaded Megastar?


Oh yeah!  Lots of steel in that bad boy.  There is one for sale at a local shop and no one seems to want it.



 
3/8/2010 7:41:42 PM EDT
[#20]
My dad owned a Star Megastar. Man it was bit, but it was a great shooter.

Good luck finding mags though!!!
3/8/2010 7:51:22 PM EDT
[#21]
I owned and carried  one of those little nickle plated   M43 " Firestar "     very compact,   REALLY straight shooting little 9mm.
  I shot it in our informal   gravel pit "combat matches" a few times.... prior to that firestar we were all  shooting .45 auto exclusive.
I showed up and  won a  a couple shoots,   the guys quickly added a power factor to our games, so I had  to hit each target 3 times, the  other guys with 45's only had to hit twice.
  So. that was the end of competition with the nine mm.
 picked up a lightweight officers 45 next,   as soon as I realized the 45 officers was 9 ounces lighter than firestar.... I sold the  Firestar.
Anyway, well built pistol, flawless, perfect function, extremely ( ridiculous really ) accuracy, inexpensive, and  just freakinHEAVY......
these days, if I wanted  nine,  i would rather have a Glock26, easier to  put nite sights on Glock, and magazines  just about grow on trees.
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(You will NEVER see a 33 round magazine for a  M43.)
3/8/2010 7:54:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Sweet a semi auto blunderbus.


Seriously though what was the idea behind the tapered barrel?
 


There are some 1911s that incorporate the same feature.
3/8/2010 7:58:39 PM EDT
[#23]
I really, really, really wanted a Megastar in 10mm w/Starvel finish.  I STILL do!
3/9/2010 4:51:45 AM EDT
[#24]
I wouldn't buy one, but my BIL gave me a Firestar .45 a couple years ago.  Trigger pull is horrible, but can be made better.  The mag disconnect is the first thing that had to go - it's an easy fix.  I have big hands and shoot with a high grip, so the beavertail bites the hell out of me.  And if you're going to do a detail strip, be very careful when you take off the safety.  If you're not prepared, the safety detent will launch at an amazing velocity and it's hell finding where that little part flew off to.  But for what I paid for it, it's a good little .45
3/9/2010 4:56:51 AM EDT
[#25]
they also made one with the polymer frame. can't remember if it was a double stack, though.

I had 2 of the M45's. They were like 199.99 when I bought em in 96 or 97.
3/9/2010 5:04:21 AM EDT
[#26]
The one pictured in the OP was the first .45 I ever fired.  I had never heard of the brand and didn't think much of it at the time, but that was a good shooting pistol in my hands.  I'd pick one up for a decent price today, but see them rarely around here.
3/9/2010 5:07:54 AM EDT
[#27]
had the 45 and the 9mm.

VERY good guns and very accurate.

i wish i'd never sold them
3/10/2010 6:50:12 PM EDT
[#28]
The scope of the problem:  (Both Unloaded)





To show how low it can go, this Seecamp is fully loaded: (.824 if you can't see it)