Posted: 3/8/2010 7:34:22 AM EDT
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I'd be filling my neighbors can up with concrete patio blocks every week. 
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Whenever I start to think look to see where this country is fucked up heading, I just look to jolly 'ole England. I don't really see this as an invasion of privacy (they aren't examining the contents of the trash just the weight) and people should pay according to what they use. Thus I don't see the problem. |
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More than 2.5million homes now have wheelie bins fitted with microchips to weigh their contents. This is an increase of nearly two-thirds in just a year. The bins, which can be electronically identified and weighed, are designed for 'pay-as-you-throw' rubbish tax schemes Go on, try that here. I'll burn the shit out of everything and bury the rest. So fucking sick of this tax, tax, tax bullshit. Quit fucking spending you assholes. |
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Whenever I start to think look to see where this country is fucked up heading, I just look to jolly 'ole England. I don't really see this as an invasion of privacy (they aren't examining the contents of the trash just the weight) and people should pay according to what they use. Thus I don't see the problem. So I guess your okay with having to pay for the trash can and paying for what you throw away? Are more taxes okay in your mind? |
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Whenever I start to think look to see where this country is fucked up heading, I just look to jolly 'ole England. I don't really see this as an invasion of privacy (they aren't examining the contents of the trash just the weight) and people should pay according to what they use. Thus I don't see the problem. It's actually being used to reward families who reduce the landfill waste they produce and increacing recycling. I think they are looking at providing some sort of tax break. It was originally going to be a case to paying for what you throw away by weight, but the British version of the EPA told them not to be stupid as all it would do is increase flytipping. So it's now an incentive scheme with rewards. |
Very happy with the private company I directly pay for garbage pick-up.|
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Whenever I start to think look to see where this country is fucked up heading, I just look to jolly 'ole England. I don't really see this as an invasion of privacy (they aren't examining the contents of the trash just the weight) and people should pay according to what they use. Thus I don't see the problem. So I guess your okay with having to pay for the trash can and paying for what you throw away? Are more taxes okay in your mind? Although in practice the mean tax collected for trash collection would probably go up that is not part of the premise thus I get to ignore it. It then comes down to whether it is right that I should pay my neighbors way, or that he should pay mine; It is not right. |
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I find myself constantly wondering if the people of England has thoroughly given up, or one day will have had enough of this crap. It's actually being used to reward families who reduce the landfill waste they produce and increacing recycling. I think they are looking at providing some sort of tax break. It was originally going to be a case to paying for what you throw away by weight, but the British version of the EPA told them not to be stupid as all it would do is increase flytipping. So it's now an incentive scheme with rewards. |
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I pay a private company to pick up my trash. It's incredibly simple, cost effective and the service is fantastic. This comes as no surprise to me - my locale doesn't offer the service, which means private companies compete with each other for my business. Why do so many people insist on reinventing the wheel, when it's already perfectly round and quite adept at rolling? |
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I pay a private company to pick up my trash. It's incredibly simple, cost effective and the service is fantastic. This comes as no surprise to me - my locale doesn't offer the service, which means private companies compete with each other for my business. Why do so many people insist on reinventing the wheel, when it's already perfectly round and quite adept at rolling? Over in the UK it's a legal requirment of the municipal authority to collect waste. It was set up this way to centralise the Duty of Care of waste from a householder. I know what you mean about keeping it simple and paying for a service, but there are decent folk like you and me who would pay for the service and those that would sooner dump their waste in someone elses bin, bury it, or burn it...... then it becomes expensive to clean up the mess and prosecute the offenders, meaning biger and more costly Govt with even more legislation. |
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I pay a private company to pick up my trash. It's incredibly simple, cost effective and the service is fantastic. This comes as no surprise to me - my locale doesn't offer the service, which means private companies compete with each other for my business. Why do so many people insist on reinventing the wheel, when it's already perfectly round and quite adept at rolling? Over in the UK it's a legal requirment of the municipal authority to collect waste. It was set up this way to centralise the Duty of Care of waste from a householder. I know what you mean about keeping it simple and paying for a service, but there are decent folk like you and me who would pay for the service and those that would sooner dump their waste in someone elses bin, bury it, or burn it...... then it becomes expensive to clean up the mess and prosecute the offenders, meaning biger and more costly Govt with even more legislation. Does the mafia (or whatever you call organized crime) control the trash business in England? |
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So I guess your okay with having to pay for the trash can and paying for what you throw away? Are more taxes okay in your mind? I am ok with paying a bin fee and a per pound charge on the garbage I throw away to the private company that I contract for my waste removal. The tecnology is already there for this. Auto-loader garbage trucks plus GPS plus camera and bingo-bango-bongo they know how much weight you are throwing away every week. Just dump that info to billing and you are all set. I am not ok with paying taxes on what I throw away to a gov't who should not have their fucking fingers in waste removal though. |
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I pay a private company to pick up my trash. It's incredibly simple, cost effective and the service is fantastic. This comes as no surprise to me - my locale doesn't offer the service, which means private companies compete with each other for my business. Why do so many people insist on reinventing the wheel, when it's already perfectly round and quite adept at rolling? Over in the UK it's a legal requirment of the municipal authority to collect waste. It was set up this way to centralise the Duty of Care of waste from a householder. I know what you mean about keeping it simple and paying for a service, but there are decent folk like you and me who would pay for the service and those that would sooner dump their waste in someone elses bin, bury it, or burn it...... then it becomes expensive to clean up the mess and prosecute the offenders, meaning biger and more costly Govt with even more legislation. Does the mafia (or whatever you call organized crime) control the trash business in England? There is a criminal element and a certain level of organised crime, but it's not on the scale of a mafia led business. It's a competitive market, and this naturally favours criminal activity if they can get away with it, but ther vast majority of business is legitimate and under contractual obligation rather than the other way round. 
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There is a criminal element and a certain level of organised crime, but it's not on the scale of a mafia led business. It's a competitive market, and this naturally favours criminal activity if they can get away with it, but ther vast majority of business is legitimate and under contractual obligation rather than the other way round. Thanks Agent Funky. That is interesting. Here in the US we have a hodgepodge of different approaches to refuse pickup and disposal. In my small town I am responsible for it- I have to haul it to a central transfer station each week. There we separate out the different components (aluminum, glass, steel, paper, heavy metals, oil) for recycling and toss the rest into a chute which is then compacted down. What the town gets for sale of the recyclable materials (if applicable) helps to subsidize the cost of running the transfer station and the ultimate disposal of the true trash. I suspect that is where the mafia takes over. 
Some towns (generally very remote now) have old school dumps/landfills. One thing I have noticed is since I started to compost vegetable/kitchen scraps my total trash load went down considerably. Is composting something that is encouraged/organized for people who live in towns/cities in the UK? |
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There is a criminal element and a certain level of organised crime, but it's not on the scale of a mafia led business. It's a competitive market, and this naturally favours criminal activity if they can get away with it, but ther vast majority of business is legitimate and under contractual obligation rather than the other way round. Thanks Agent Funky. That is interesting. Here in the US we have a hodgepodge of different approaches to refuse pickup and disposal. In my small town I am responsible for it- I have to haul it to a central transfer station each week. There we separate out the different components (aluminum, glass, steel, paper, heavy metals, oil) for recycling and toss the rest into a chute which is then compacted down. What the town gets for sale of the recyclable materials (if applicable) helps to subsidize the cost of running the transfer station and the ultimate disposal of the true trash. I suspect that is where the mafia takes over.
Some towns (generally very remote now) have old school dumps/landfills. One thing I have noticed is since I started to compost vegetable/kitchen scraps my total trash load went down considerably. Is composting something that is encouraged/organized for people who live in towns/cities in the UK? Yeah composting is taking off in a big way. The UK has targets for reducing waste to landfill progressively over the coming years. We generally have several bins per household so that we can segregate at source. Removes the need for materials recycling facilities, and sorting equipment to a great degree..... and mixed wastes are easily separated through eddy-current separators. We have 4 bins at home, one for paper and cardboard collected once very 4 weeks, one for glass, plastic and metals collected every 2 weeks, a mixed waste bin for non-recoverable fractions and a garden waste bin for some foodstuffs, small twigs, weeds and grass cuttings etc. Makes the life of the Transfer Station owners a lot easier and safer, and they get a better return for the segregated products. It also reduces the cost of landfilling wastes and means we can can keep waste management costs low and invest the money into other projects, or get a tax break. We've come a long way from the only source of profit in the indutstry to ram a bulk ejector up to the landfill 6 times a day....... there's a lot of investment and beneficial use now.
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