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Originally Posted By brass: Get some FLIR footage of parachute flares. It should be very easy to duplicate that star shape leaving a cold smoke/vapor trail and then it can be debunked. "Looks like it could be..." is NOT a "debunk". Produce a video that is a near exact to that one shown and I'll believe you. I would think the government wouldn't classify a flare, but they're so eager to classify everything to hide their affairs anything is possible. I just don't see a flare or direction. These would be a lot easier to interpret if they at least left in the heading, range, and azimuth of the platform and camera, that shouldn't leak any abilities but we'd know if they're turning right and looking left or looking right to stay in frame, there's a big difference and why some which don't appear extraordinary might be if it's turning and still hitting the stop trying to keep it in frame. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Herc: Originally Posted By brass: I am really confused by the agents shouting all over that the 8 pointed item is a parachute flare, one that goes both up and down, and doesn't have a parachute, and doesn't flicker dim/bright the way parachute flares do. I'm guessing many have never seen a parachute flare or don't remember the flickering illumination around them. They apparently just want that video to not be real, by any means necessary, some are posting both that it's a parachute flare as well as lens flare from an airplane behind it as well as other theories, all at the same time, so long as "UAP/UFO" isn't part of what it might be. There is definitely something that looks like a parachute at some points in the video, and it moves around like its attached to the object. Although the object is near the center of the frame when it does that, so the "parachute" may just be rotating around the center axis of the camera. I lean towards the "parachute" being a lens flare. Is that really any different from people who so desperately want it to be aliens that they will ignore normal explanations for UFO's? This video isn't clear evidence of anything, same as when it was leaked a few years ago. Get some FLIR footage of parachute flares. It should be very easy to duplicate that star shape leaving a cold smoke/vapor trail and then it can be debunked. "Looks like it could be..." is NOT a "debunk". Produce a video that is a near exact to that one shown and I'll believe you. I would think the government wouldn't classify a flare, but they're so eager to classify everything to hide their affairs anything is possible. I just don't see a flare or direction. These would be a lot easier to interpret if they at least left in the heading, range, and azimuth of the platform and camera, that shouldn't leak any abilities but we'd know if they're turning right and looking left or looking right to stay in frame, there's a big difference and why some which don't appear extraordinary might be if it's turning and still hitting the stop trying to keep it in frame. If someone has an MTS-B I can borrow I'm sure I can recreate the video. Without a million dollar classified camera system to play with it's going to be tough to recreate it. I guess if you wanted to you could spend a few thousand bucks and a bunch of time playing with OpticStudio to recreate it perfectly. Of course you would need to know a lot about the internals of the optics and what materials the lens is made out of, again classified system. There is enough to get close though and with some guesses you can probably recreate it. This video actually gives a lot of information about the camera system, and helps with backwards engineering it. Not that it's really necessary because any adversary could probably just buy an MTS-B if they wanted. This thing shows none of the five observables, it has an exhaust trail and doesn't do anything crazy. Maybe you could argue low observability because it's able to overwhelm the sensor and mask its real shape, but that's something we can do. The description includes this "1006088,"Resolved as an Aircraft, Middle East 2013",Department of War,N/A,Middle East" I don't see anything in that video to argue against that determination. |
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Originally Posted By Herc: If someone has an MTS-B I can borrow I'm sure I can recreate the video. Without a million dollar classified camera system to play with it's going to be tough to recreate it. I guess if you wanted to you could spend a few thousand bucks and a bunch of time playing with OpticStudio to recreate it perfectly. Of course you would need to know a lot about the internals of the optics and what materials the lens is made out of, again classified system. There is enough to get close though and with some guesses you can probably recreate it. This video actually gives a lot of information about the camera system, and helps with backwards engineering it. Not that it's really necessary because any adversary could probably just buy an MTS-B if they wanted. This thing shows none of the five observables, it has an exhaust trail and doesn't do anything crazy. Maybe you could argue low observability because it's able to overwhelm the sensor and mask its real shape, but that's something we can do. The description includes this "1006088,"Resolved as an Aircraft, Middle East 2013",Department of War,N/A,Middle East" I don't see anything in that video to argue against that determination. Originally Posted By Herc: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Herc: Originally Posted By brass: I am really confused by the agents shouting all over that the 8 pointed item is a parachute flare, one that goes both up and down, and doesn't have a parachute, and doesn't flicker dim/bright the way parachute flares do. I'm guessing many have never seen a parachute flare or don't remember the flickering illumination around them. They apparently just want that video to not be real, by any means necessary, some are posting both that it's a parachute flare as well as lens flare from an airplane behind it as well as other theories, all at the same time, so long as "UAP/UFO" isn't part of what it might be. There is definitely something that looks like a parachute at some points in the video, and it moves around like its attached to the object. Although the object is near the center of the frame when it does that, so the "parachute" may just be rotating around the center axis of the camera. I lean towards the "parachute" being a lens flare. Is that really any different from people who so desperately want it to be aliens that they will ignore normal explanations for UFO's? This video isn't clear evidence of anything, same as when it was leaked a few years ago. Get some FLIR footage of parachute flares. It should be very easy to duplicate that star shape leaving a cold smoke/vapor trail and then it can be debunked. "Looks like it could be..." is NOT a "debunk". Produce a video that is a near exact to that one shown and I'll believe you. I would think the government wouldn't classify a flare, but they're so eager to classify everything to hide their affairs anything is possible. I just don't see a flare or direction. These would be a lot easier to interpret if they at least left in the heading, range, and azimuth of the platform and camera, that shouldn't leak any abilities but we'd know if they're turning right and looking left or looking right to stay in frame, there's a big difference and why some which don't appear extraordinary might be if it's turning and still hitting the stop trying to keep it in frame. If someone has an MTS-B I can borrow I'm sure I can recreate the video. Without a million dollar classified camera system to play with it's going to be tough to recreate it. I guess if you wanted to you could spend a few thousand bucks and a bunch of time playing with OpticStudio to recreate it perfectly. Of course you would need to know a lot about the internals of the optics and what materials the lens is made out of, again classified system. There is enough to get close though and with some guesses you can probably recreate it. This video actually gives a lot of information about the camera system, and helps with backwards engineering it. Not that it's really necessary because any adversary could probably just buy an MTS-B if they wanted. This thing shows none of the five observables, it has an exhaust trail and doesn't do anything crazy. Maybe you could argue low observability because it's able to overwhelm the sensor and mask its real shape, but that's something we can do. The description includes this "1006088,"Resolved as an Aircraft, Middle East 2013",Department of War,N/A,Middle East" I don't see anything in that video to argue against that determination. I only know all of these are unidentified to me. I'll call them "orb thingies" or the "star thingie" since that's basically all we've seen, well, we've had the "jellyfish thingies" with different lighting that seem semi transparent both in visible and on FLIR but I don't know if that's not because they're simply semi transparent somehow. The orbs and the jellyfish types along with saucer "sport model" have been released by South America and France and some of the US but some say they aren't categorized right, but from the description of the "sport model" from Lazar and others who saw them at top secret air shows as baby / mid size / momma size hovering in a hanger, I can't say anything other than repeat their idea without attributing alien characteristics to them or anything else. They're mostly just Unidentified to me, and I'll use orb or star thingy or tic tac so I can kind of get people to know which video in a thread I'm speaking about is all. Too many think that if they're unidentified that means it's an alien, I don't hold that belief, I think both can exist, and the reported extensive reverse engineering has happened so there's the "ARV" or Alien Reproduction Vehicles using same propulsion/power but built more conventionally/less organic. I've never seen a parachute flare that didn't have some flashing to it, I'm guessing to prolong how long the illumination continues, if it's at full brightness all the time, it burns out quick and makes everybody's eyes set for daylight leaving them screwed when flare burns out. The flashing flares (all I've seen) rapidly flash and dim and aren't perfectly even brightness for their entire burn time which is why I don't think the star thingy is a flare, but I have no idea what else it could be, or the scale/size it is. It does appear to be some aircraft, just not a conventional one of most of our current understanding so that categorization is fine as well. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Luna and Burchett saying they were cropped out, is that continuing the joke? This has been muddled with AI by the detractors so much they should know better than to even sort of make jokes. Assuming they're not throwing it all away, she needs to provide context and details now that she injected herself into the image storyline. Oddly Ross made a serious tweet and included the same image. Attached File |
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And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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I saw a Reddit post take on the image that might make sense as a metaphor. The fact that Trump posted this image with no caption makes the timing and symbolism feel especially interesting, given the current geopolitical backdrop. Trump had just returned from China, apparently without any meaningful joint statement or major breakthrough. At almost the same time, Xi is about to meet Putin. So this image lands in a very specific context: U.S.–China talks going nowhere, while China and Russia appear to be moving closer together. That is why I don’t read it as just a random AI joke aimed at ordinary viewers. My reading is that it may be a signal aimed at America’s adversaries, especially China and Russia. Against that backdrop, the image feels less like a meme and more like a piece of geopolitical theatre. The grey alien in the image is especially interesting. It appears almost handcuffed, yet at the same time it is walking freely, shoulder to shoulder with the U.S. president, moving in the same direction. Symbolically, that suggests something that is partly under American control, but also aligned with American interests — not simply a prisoner, but perhaps an asset or an ally. The grey alien’s body is doing a lot of the talking here too. A classic grey alien is supposed to be small, thin, and physically weak-looking. But in this image, it’s tall, muscular, and even looks bigger than Trump. So the message, if you read it symbolically, is pretty blunt: this alien isn’t some fragile little creature. It’s strong, it’s got serious muscle, and it looks like it can fight. In a weird geopolitical meme-language kind of way, it’s basically saying: this “alien ally” has more muscle than even America itself, so beware. So my take is that this image is probably meant as a reminder to adversarial states. To normal people, it just looks like some stupid AI meme. But to people who are actually “in the brief,” especially inside rival governments, the message may be much more obvious: America is not only playing the normal geopolitical cards — money, chips, military power, satellites, alliances — it may also have a hidden card under the table. An alien card. To put it more directly: this could be a warning to China. Don’t stand too close to Russia. Don’t assume America has shown all of its cards. The U.S. may still have a strange, unrevealed trump card in the background. https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/UglLySYV1g |
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And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: Oddly Ross made a serious tweet and included the same image. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/IMG_5935_jpeg-3764748.JPG Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By brass: Luna and Burchett saying they were cropped out, is that continuing the joke? This has been muddled with AI by the detractors so much they should know better than to even sort of make jokes. Assuming they're not throwing it all away, she needs to provide context and details now that she injected herself into the image storyline. Oddly Ross made a serious tweet and included the same image. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/IMG_5935_jpeg-3764748.JPG But the front wheels on the HMMV over Trump's left shoulder has no front wheels? It's AI Generated. |
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Originally Posted By brass: But the front wheels on the HMMV over Trump's left shoulder has no front wheels? It's AI Generated. Or at least edited. I don't think Trump was trying to pass this off as real. I do think it's some kind of message or signal. Not to go all Q here, but not everything he posts seems meant for everyone to understand. The fact that Luna & co are publicly saying they're edited out of the image makes the whole thing that much stranger, it would be nice if they would confirm exact what the original image was depicting. |
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Originally Posted By seek2: Or at least edited. I don't think Trump was trying to pass this off as real. I do think it's some kind of message or signal. Not to go all Q here, but not everything he posts seems meant for everyone to understand. The fact that Luna & co are publicly saying they're edited out of the image makes the whole thing that much stranger, it would be nice if they would confirm exact what the original image was depicting. Originally Posted By seek2: Originally Posted By brass: But the front wheels on the HMMV over Trump's left shoulder has no front wheels? It's AI Generated. Or at least edited. I don't think Trump was trying to pass this off as real. I do think it's some kind of message or signal. Not to go all Q here, but not everything he posts seems meant for everyone to understand. The fact that Luna & co are publicly saying they're edited out of the image makes the whole thing that much stranger, it would be nice if they would confirm exact what the original image was depicting. Maybe editing them out is where the humvee wheel went? Didn’t Trump also post an AI image of him in a religious setting healing someone? I don’t want to slide the thread, just thinking out loud that he has done this before during a serious/sensitive topic is in the news. Found it; Attached File |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: Maybe editing them out is where the humvee wheel went? Didn't Trump also post an AI image of him in a religious setting healing someone? I don't want to slide the thread, just thinking out loud that he has done this before during a serious/sensitive topic is in the news. Found it; https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/IMG_5943_jpeg-3765119.JPG He then simply specified it represented someone (him) curing someone else, as a doctor. Trump is often (intentionally or not) non-accurate, non-precise in his messages. He plays on the vague possibility of misunderstanding et cetera Funny 
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An attorney present in a briefing this week. This person could have given two shits about the subject before the briefing. We spoke today and I asked about it, they said "can't really say much, but they are very real, like really real." Naturally I pressed, but they held firm (I've known this person very well for 18 years), which tells me it has to be legit, knowing them. Supposedly a lot drops starting tomorrow. |
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Originally Posted By tawaggs: I’ll believe it when I see it… Released. I have no reason to doubt this person. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I don't know how anyone has doubts at this point about whether or not "they're real". The remaining question is who/what are "they". Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: I was informed today they are in fact real. The remaining question is who/what are "they". I asked. They declined to discuss further. This person has historically joked with me about believing in ET. Tone took a hard 180 degree turn. |
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https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR050-4-UAP-Formation-Iran-26-Aug-2022-over-water-CALLSIGN https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR051-Syrian-UAP-instant-acceleration https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR050-4-UAP-Formation-Iran-26-Aug-2022-over-water-CALLSIGN This one is scooting all over the place: https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR054-Spherical-UAP-Erratic-movement-CALLSIGN-Mission-2022 https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR056-Spherical-UAP-pulsing-over-water-CALLSIGN 4k: https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR057b-Platform-Observes-UAP-in-East-China-Sea-05-JAN-2023-INDOPACOM https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR066-USCG-C-144-Tyndall-UAP-1-TIC-TAC-IR-hot-24-April-2024  https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR067-Multiple-Spherical-UAP-USO-near-Sub-CALLSIGN-20220325-in-and-out-of-water https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR069-FA-18-FLIR-UAP Holy smokes this is A LOT of footage, not even to page 4 yet. |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR050-4-UAP-Formation-Iran-26-Aug-2022-over-water-CALLSIGN https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR051-Syrian-UAP-instant-acceleration https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR052-UAP-USO-Formation-CALLSIGN-Mission This one is scooting all over the place: https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR054-Spherical-UAP-Erratic-movement-CALLSIGN-Mission-2022 https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR056-Spherical-UAP-pulsing-over-water-CALLSIGN 4k: https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR057b-Platform-Observes-UAP-in-East-China-Sea-05-JAN-2023-INDOPACOM https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR066-USCG-C-144-Tyndall-UAP-1-TIC-TAC-IR-hot-24-April-2024 https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR067-Multiple-Spherical-UAP-USO-near-Sub-CALLSIGN-20220325-in-and-out-of-water https://www.war.gov/ufo/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR069-FA-18-FLIR-UAP Holy smokes this is A LOT of footage, not even to page 4 yet. I’m heading to my computer shortly to start checking things out. My phone battery is on its last leg. |
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Massive amount of videos here! https://www.dvidshub.net/search/?q=uap&view=grid&sort=publishdate |
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Appears to be pretty clear flying saucer footage from an F-18 to my untrained eye. I have to wonder where is the normal footage or do these not even show up under normal visual imaging? https://www.dvidshub.net/video/1007781/dow-uap-pr069-f-18-flir-uap |
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Same indiscernible distant sensor data imagery as before. This one is interesting. However it or one like it has been leaked previously. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Appears to be pretty clear flying saucer footage from an F-18 to my untrained eye. I have to wonder where is the normal footage or do these not even show up under normal visual imaging? https://www.dvidshub.net/video/1007781/dow-uap-pr069-f-18-flir-uap The EO footage is left out because you would look at it and say "that's a balloon." IR footage is weird and it gets weirder as the cameras get more expensive and more capable. There's a reason the footage was taken in 2022 and not reported until 2023, the people involved thought it was perfectly normal, then someone looked at it later on and said UAP! |
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UAP shootdown on page 3 I'm guessing this was one of the balloons that was shot down after the initial Chinese Spy Balloon incident. |
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Originally Posted By aswrg7: UAP shootdown on page 3 I'm guessing this was one of the balloons that was shot down after the initial Chinese Spy Balloon incident. I know they had requested the one that was shot down either over the great lakes or over Alaska. I'm thinking the documents just like in the first drop may be more interesting than the videos. I know they certainly were to me in the first batch. |
Oh wow this one is interesting! I missed this in the batch. Clearly saucer shaped!
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Attached File Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal 🇺🇸 CHILLING! Freshly released files from the Armed Forces Special Weapons Program (the guys who took over after the Manhattan Project) dropped 116 pages of pure nightmare fuel. Between 1948 and 1950, military personnel at Sandia, New Mexico documented no less tha 209 sightings! From glowing green orbs, to flying discs, and exploding fireballs right next to America’s most sensitive nuclear weapons facility. Witnesses watched these things maneuver like nothing on Earth, darting, hovering, vanishing into thin air, and even blowing up mid-sky. Some sites left behind weird copper powder residue that had investigators scrambling. These reports helped launch PROJECT GRUDGE the early Air Force UFO investigation program. They saw something out there… and it was watching U.S. nukes. The real question: What the hell were they? Source: UFO Files (DOW-UAP-D017, UAP Reported at Sandia Base, 1948-1950) |
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I'm not certain where this is coming from. Is this in the drop??? This certainly doesn't look undamaged. ETA this appears to be AI so ignore this one.
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The video is getting clearer but not more impressive. Some videos were interesting but its still underwhelming. My gut tells me a lot of these are likely drones, either ours or chinas At least we’re getting something but this whole thing feels off, just a weird feeling about all of this. |
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https://www.war.gov/UFO/?releaseDate=Release+02#DOW-UAP-PR051-Syrian-UAP-instant-acceleration Syrian UAP, moving around then just blips off screen in a couple frames hauling ass. |
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Not part of drop but may be relevant if true ????????????
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I don't know how anyone has doubts at this point about whether or not "they're real". The remaining question is who/what are "they". However, I am sticking to my guns harder than they do to their lack of understanding   
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Originally Posted By Solo_: They still mock me, including my wife. Humanity is deaf - on a large scale, almost autistically. However, I am sticking to my guns harder than they do to their lack of understanding Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I don't know how anyone has doubts at this point about whether or not "they're real". The remaining question is who/what are "they". However, I am sticking to my guns harder than they do to their lack of understanding |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Dismissing the topic is "safe" and won't get you ridiculed or ignored. Discussing it in a straightforward curious manner is risky in many circles. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I don't know how anyone has doubts at this point about whether or not "they're real". The remaining question is who/what are "they". However, I am sticking to my guns harder than they do to their lack of understanding Openly discussing NHI and potentially related craft is allowed and encouraged in this forum. If anyone dismisses or says "bullshit" and the like in this forum, please report the post. Remember, politely disagreeing is not harassing/denial as long as the disagreement is logically stated, pertinent to the thread, and an original thought from that member rather than puppeteering words that we are seeing all over the internet for "Debunking" with less proof than the actual story has. Repeating the same points in several threads or several times a single thread is not allowed, please use report button. Please direct those who wish to disrupt to GD. Disagreeing to the point of disruption is also a worm trick trying to skirt forum rules and is not allowed, so if there are 3+ replies saying the same thing without adding any substantial information or other links, please report those as well. and I will take care of them soonest. I don't have time to read every post in every thread in this forum of late, it's gotten very busy. I do catch up but it's no longer realtime, so reports get me to where I need to be ASAP before he threads get ruined by GD creep to this forum as well as debunkers. Black Science Guy is dragging his feet by entirely dismissing the craft and demanding to meet aliens before he'll believe it. Reminds me of many in GD that leak to this forum. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Good Morning America video That seems to remove at least these incidents from phenomenon being flares, lens flare, balloons, satellite, and many other explanations we've read and heard over the years. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.