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12/21/2025 8:56:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tnriverluver][Edited] [#1]
I think I know what is really about to happen.  Hell it has already started happening.  Everybody’s dreams are about to start becoming real and you damned well better be having good dreams!  It’s as if every science fiction movie we have ever watched actually had grains of truth to them.  Ghost, werewolfs, vampires, monsters, this from people visiting Chris Bledsoe’s Skinwalker ranch .  But actually friendly.  Ships from the movie Star Trek that our government already possesses according to some whistleblowers, a life like the Jetsons the AI is soon to provide.  But only if we harness AI correctly. Telepathic abilities and super powers.  Stargate, It’s all becoming reality!  Call me crazy if you wish but this stuff appears to be real or soon will be in reality here on earth!  Not to mention many other dimensions existing.
12/22/2025 2:28:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Bob Monroe on the Consciousness Enhancing Benefits of Gateway Voyage
12/22/2025 2:56:47 PM EDT
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The Age of Disclosure revealed info even a lot of congress on UAP committee hadn't heard.  It also speaks about the Spielberg film and a new whistleblower.  She covers a lot of different topics in this one.  Probably the best one yet of all she has put out!

CONGRESSMAN REVEALS HUGE DEVELOPMENT
12/23/2025 1:20:45 AM EDT
[#4]
There's a lot of deer in that trailer...


Question and answer with Grok:

Why are deer considered sacred in some parts of Japan?

Deer are considered sacred in some parts of Japan, particularly in Nara, due to their deep roots in Shinto mythology and religious tradition. This reverence is most famous in Nara Park, where over 1,200 wild sika deer (Cervus nippon) roam freely and interact with visitors.

The Core Legend
According to Shinto folklore, in 768 CE, the deity Takemikazuchi-no-mikoto (a god of thunder and one of the four principal kami of Kasuga Taisha Shrine) was invited from Kashima Shrine in present-day Ibaraki Prefecture to Nara to protect the city and ensure prosperity. He arrived riding on the back of a white deer. From that moment, deer in the area were viewed as divine messengers (shinshi) of the gods, sent to watch over and protect the land.
This belief led to the deer being protected for centuries:
Killing a deer was a capital offense (punishable by death) until the Edo period (1603–1868).
The animals were associated with both KasugaTaisha Shrine (a major Shinto site) and nearby Kōfuku-ji Temple, blending Shinto and Buddhist reverence (though the traditions were separated in the Meiji era).
Historical and Cultural Significance
The deer have been protected for over 1,400 years, preserving a unique genetic lineage in Nara Park (distinct from other sika deer populations due to the long-term sanctuary around the shrine).
Deer are also seen as symbols of purity, protection, and peace in broader Shinto beliefs, similar to how foxes are sacred to Inari shrines.
In Nara, they are still called "messengers of the gods" and are designated as a national natural monument.
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12/23/2025 10:05:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tnriverluver][Edited] [#5]
I read somewhere right after Trump suddenly announced the $50 billion Genesis AI project that it was all about this stuff trying to really understand what we are dealing with and also the bigger question for him apparently was harnessing new energy systems.
This from Reddit this morning.  I have not watched the 3 hour video to see what's in it.

Theory about Genesis AI Mission


It's a way of working around the current classifications using NHI to provide the answers. And possibly just saying AI developed these new technologies.

Pippa Malmgren suspects the Genesis Mission "is a means of beginning to reveal that there are many discoveries and technologies we already have. The question was just how to put them in the public domain."




12/23/2025 10:19:15 AM EDT
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Another note on deer:


The Legend of Saint Hubertus

Hubertus was a nobleman and passionate hunter in the Ardennes region (modern-day Belgium/France) during the 7th–8th century. He was known for neglecting his faith and hunting even on holy days, such as Good Friday.

While pursuing a magnificent stag in the forest, Hubertus cornered the animal. As he prepared to strike, the stag turned toward him, and a radiant crucifix (or glowing cross) appeared between its antlers. A divine voice spoke to him, warning him to repent and turn to God, saying something like: "Hubert, unless you turn to the Lord, you will fall into Hell."

Shocked by the vision, Hubertus abandoned his sinful life, converted to Christianity, gave up hunting, and eventually became a bishop (of Liège). He is celebrated for promoting ethical treatment of animals and respect for nature. His feast day is November 3, which coincides with the start of deer hunting season in many European regions.

This image of the stag with the cross became a widespread symbol in European Christian tradition, representing divine intervention, conversion, and spiritual awakening. It is famously featured in the logo of Jägermeister liqueur and in artworks, churches, and hunting clubs across Europe.

Related Earlier Legend: Saint Eustace

The story closely mirrors an older legend from the 2nd century involving Saint Eustace (or Eustachius), a Roman general named Placidus. While hunting, he encountered a stag with a crucifix between its antlers, heard God's voice commanding him to convert, and became a Christian. He was later martyred. Eustace's tale, popularized in the medieval Golden Legend, likely influenced the later attribution of the vision to Hubertus.

Both saints are patrons of hunters, and the motif of the stag with the cross symbolizes mercy, faith, and the sacredness of nature in European Christian folklore. No other major European legend features a deer with a cross in quite the same way.
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12/23/2025 12:25:10 PM EDT
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Clip from the long Jesse Michaels video

"Aliens Are Walking Among Us" -Robert Bigelow's Disturbing Alien Claim
12/23/2025 12:42:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tnriverluver][Edited] [#8]
Oh wow they've been approached Naval Intelligence at some point to be read in start a slow drip disclosure and starting Jan are going to do a 36 episode podcast about it on IHeart.   Zabel and Friedman

Disclosure Day — First Trailer Analysis — Need to Know
12/23/2025 1:24:18 PM EDT
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Oops wrong thread
12/23/2025 5:16:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tnriverluver][Edited] [#10]
there is a lot of interesting info here from 1robert Monroe and the Monroe institute channel.  Not talking about this one video specifically but exploring what's inside.

Nonverbal Communication: Insights from Beyond Earth


How and Why an ET is Communicating with Humans #39
12/27/2025 8:48:40 AM EDT
[#11]
I think I now may know what this movie is getting at.  I have two very sweet and loving dogs that somehow no matter where the other may be, even if one has gone outside through the doggy door and the other is inside, if I let one the other comes running.  We have noticed this for quite some time now.  This morning I did an experiment.  Max, the one on the right was in the living room asleep on the couch.  Milo (on the left) was sitting at my feet while I was making a cup
Of coffee.  I silently bent over and started petting him and neither of us made a sound.  And I mean I was really really quiet doing this.  Instantly Max jumped off the sofa and came running in wanting to be petted also.  They are extremely jealous when it comes to getting a little loving lol.  I really think our dogs have some type of telepathic abilities and possibly all animals do.  We humans have just had ours suppressed and hidden for eons by what we consume.  I recently saw something regarding this that said we would not be fully developed until we could communicate with ants!  Don’t shoot the messenger here as that’s just something a video announced.  But I do think this is quite possibly what some of Disclosure Day and all the animals may be hinting at.

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12/27/2025 10:47:11 AM EDT
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I think I now may know what this movie is getting at.  I have two very sweet and loving dogs that somehow no matter where the other may be, even if one has gone outside through the doggy door and the other is inside, if I let one the other comes running.  We have noticed this for quite some time now.  This morning I did an experiment.  Max, the one on the right was in the living room asleep on the couch.  Milo (on the left) was sitting at my feet while I was making a cup
Of coffee.  I silently bent over and started petting him and neither of us made a sound.  And I mean I was really really quiet doing this.  Instantly Max jumped off the sofa and came running in wanting to be petted also.  They are extremely jealous when it comes to getting a little loving lol.  I really think our dogs have some type of telepathic abilities and possibly all animals do.  We humans have just had ours suppressed and hidden for eons by what we consume.  I recently saw something regarding this that said we would not be fully developed until we could communicate with ants!  Don’t shoot the messenger here as that’s just something a video announced.  But I do think this is quite possibly what some of Disclosure Day and all the animals may be hinting at.

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Have you listened to the Telepathy Tapes by chance?  

Also, please give those good boys a pat on the head from some rando guy on the internet.
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12/27/2025 11:11:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
I think I now may know what this movie is getting at.  I have two very sweet and loving dogs that somehow no matter where the other may be, even if one has gone outside through the doggy door and the other is inside, if I let one the other comes running.  We have noticed this for quite some time now.  This morning I did an experiment.  Max, the one on the right was in the living room asleep on the couch.  Milo (on the left) was sitting at my feet while I was making a cup
Of coffee.  I silently bent over and started petting him and neither of us made a sound.  And I mean I was really really quiet doing this.  Instantly Max jumped off the sofa and came running in wanting to be petted also.  They are extremely jealous when it comes to getting a little loving lol.  I really think our dogs have some type of telepathic abilities and possibly all animals do.  We humans have just had ours suppressed and hidden for eons by what we consume.  I recently saw something regarding this that said we would not be fully developed until we could communicate with ants!  Don’t shoot the messenger here as that’s just something a video announced.  But I do think this is quite possibly what some of Disclosure Day and all the animals may be hinting at.

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When I was young, I could honestly call our dog just by thinking. Did it many times in the house and dog would show up, even on different floors. I've had dogs all my life, can't do it anymore. We humans evolved alongside them.
12/27/2025 11:38:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
I think I now may know what this movie is getting at.  I have two very sweet and loving dogs that somehow no matter where the other may be, even if one has gone outside through the doggy door and the other is inside, if I let one the other comes running.  We have noticed this for quite some time now.  This morning I did an experiment.  Max, the one on the right was in the living room asleep on the couch.  Milo (on the left) was sitting at my feet while I was making a cup
Of coffee.  I silently bent over and started petting him and neither of us made a sound.  And I mean I was really really quiet doing this.  Instantly Max jumped off the sofa and came running in wanting to be petted also.  They are extremely jealous when it comes to getting a little loving lol.  I really think our dogs have some type of telepathic abilities and possibly all animals do.  We humans have just had ours suppressed and hidden for eons by what we consume.  I recently saw something regarding this that said we would not be fully developed until we could communicate with ants!  Don't shoot the messenger here as that's just something a video announced.  But I do think this is quite possibly what some of Disclosure Day and all the animals may be hinting at.

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It doesn't matter where she is in relation to me, but if I get down on the floor, our oldest dog immediately shows up wanting attention.  She just seems to know.

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12/27/2025 11:41:41 AM EDT
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There’s a whole semi-joking side theory that cats in particular are telepathic and have used that innate telepathy to get humans to care for them.
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12/27/2025 11:54:37 AM EDT
[#16]
This dives into Consciousness Field Theory. Where Cognition happens in another dimension,  and can interact with other instances. Or, there is one hive-mind and all life is a shard.
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/27/2025 12:04:40 PM EDT
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Honestly that’s where I’ve gone with the whole thing. It explains a whole lot.
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12/27/2025 12:58:35 PM EDT
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Have you listened to the Telepathy Tapes by chance?  

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We have a third grandson born with major brain damage that shouldn't even be here with us that just saw his second Christmas.  He will likely be non verbal and I have discussed this with my wife about possibly talking to our daughter about.  I am slowly trying to wake my daughter who is an RN by profession up to our new reality.  I think she saw her first UFO after I pointed it out to her the other night right after I had suggested she and her husband watch Age of Disclosure!  This one was very anomalous in it's movements!
12/27/2025 3:24:47 PM EDT
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Honestly that’s where I’ve gone with the whole thing. It explains a whole lot.
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Originally Posted By sq40:
This dives into Consciousness Field Theory. Where Cognition happens in another dimension,  and can interact with other instances. Or, there is one hive-mind and all life is a shard.


Honestly that’s where I’ve gone with the whole thing. It explains a whole lot.


This is kind of how I visualize cognition in higher dimensions.

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“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/28/2025 11:53:34 AM EDT
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I have come to the conclusion that I have a ghost, angel, alien, or whatever visiting me during the night on a frequent basis.  It has taken me until last night to fully realize this.  I have been awakened many times lately by a cool breath of air slapping me in the face and it's not from a draft, the central unit, or anything else and it happens wherever I might be trying to sleep.  I had a fairly sleepless night last night due to both the severe pain I suffer and also last night I could not shut off the damn voice in my head long enough to fall into a deep sleep.  I got out of bed around 11pm last night and came down and got in my recliner and this time I was half awake when that cold breath of air went across my face and I could tell it wasn't from my own breath or anything else as the house was completely still and the temps outside have been well above average for this time of year hanging in the mid 70's.  I don't have a clue as to who or what it is but it's not normal but definitely not threatening either.
12/28/2025 12:39:11 PM EDT
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I have come to the conclusion that I have a ghost, angel, alien, or whatever visiting me during the night on a frequent basis.  It has taken me until last night to fully realize this.  I have been awakened many times lately by a cool breath of air slapping me in the face and it's not from a draft, the central unit, or anything else and it happens wherever I might be trying to sleep.  I had a fairly sleepless night last night due to both the severe pain I suffer and also last night I could not shut off the damn voice in my head long enough to fall into a deep sleep.  I got out of bed around 11pm last night and came down and got in my recliner and this time I was half awake when that cold breath of air went across my face and I could tell it wasn't from my own breath or anything else as the house was completely still and the temps outside have been well above average for this time of year hanging in the mid 70's.  I don't have a clue as to who or what it is but it's not normal but definitely not threatening either.
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What kind of voice? Your internal monologue or something different? On sleep, are you having vivid dreams or lucid dreaming? Any kind of sleep paralysis style stuff?

Have you ruled out any medical issues like Apnea?
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12/28/2025 12:58:39 PM EDT
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What kind of voice? Your internal monologue or something different? On sleep, are you having vivid dreams or lucid dreaming? Any kind of sleep paralysis style stuff?

Have you ruled out any medical issues like Apnea?
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Just my internal dialog, no I'm not hearing strange voices lol.  Just not being able to shut down from the day.  Yeah lately and mainly during the day I have some pretty lucid dreams during a brief nap and once found myself in sleep paralysis. First time ever that I actually recall.  It was awesome!  I haven't dreamed in many many many years at least that I could remember but after doing a lot of self hypnosis and meditation type stuff things are getting interesting to say the least!  Especially when you reach the point of vibrating but I always screw up and think about it and pull out .  The self hypnosis is amazing if for no other reason to put my body fully asleep and escape the physical pain for a little while.  I had the Gateway tapes at one point but suddenly me and apparently many others have lost access.  Fortunately there are many other great YT channels for this and even the Monroe channel has a couple of the hypnosis sessions.  It's all the other amazing frequencies that I miss having.  I usually sleep quite well until my bladder wakes me numerous time a night.  Doctors have no answers.  All related to my back issues.
12/28/2025 10:57:44 PM EDT
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Just my internal dialog, no I'm not hearing strange voices lol.  Just not being able to shut down from the day.  Yeah lately and mainly during the day I have some pretty lucid dreams during a brief nap and once found myself in sleep paralysis. First time ever that I actually recall.  It was awesome!  I haven't dreamed in many many many years at least that I could remember but after doing a lot of self hypnosis and meditation type stuff things are getting interesting to say the least!  Especially when you reach the point of vibrating but I always screw up and think about it and pull out .  The self hypnosis is amazing if for no other reason to put my body fully asleep and escape the physical pain for a little while.  I had the Gateway tapes at one point but suddenly me and apparently many others have lost access.  Fortunately there are many other great YT channels for this and even the Monroe channel has a couple of the hypnosis sessions.  It's all the other amazing frequencies that I miss having.  I usually sleep quite well until my bladder wakes me numerous time a night.  Doctors have no answers.  All related to my back issues.
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Originally Posted By sq40:


What kind of voice? Your internal monologue or something different? On sleep, are you having vivid dreams or lucid dreaming? Any kind of sleep paralysis style stuff?

Have you ruled out any medical issues like Apnea?

Just my internal dialog, no I'm not hearing strange voices lol.  Just not being able to shut down from the day.  Yeah lately and mainly during the day I have some pretty lucid dreams during a brief nap and once found myself in sleep paralysis. First time ever that I actually recall.  It was awesome!  I haven't dreamed in many many many years at least that I could remember but after doing a lot of self hypnosis and meditation type stuff things are getting interesting to say the least!  Especially when you reach the point of vibrating but I always screw up and think about it and pull out .  The self hypnosis is amazing if for no other reason to put my body fully asleep and escape the physical pain for a little while.  I had the Gateway tapes at one point but suddenly me and apparently many others have lost access.  Fortunately there are many other great YT channels for this and even the Monroe channel has a couple of the hypnosis sessions.  It's all the other amazing frequencies that I miss having.  I usually sleep quite well until my bladder wakes me numerous time a night.  Doctors have no answers.  All related to my back issues.


I care. Just wanted to make sure you were OK medically.  

I rarely remember my dreams.  Kind of a good thing.  I do stay lost in my internal monologue. I live in my head man.

I did have that one bout of sleep paralysis and the evil shadow entity thing once. Ill never forget that.
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12/28/2025 11:26:13 PM EDT
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I rarely remember my dreams.  Kind of a good thing.  I do stay lost in my internal monologue. I live in my head man.

I did have that one bout of sleep paralysis and the evil shadow entity thing once. Ill never forget that.
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If it happens to you often enough, you get good at it.

One of my most recent episodes, I was stuck overnight at work, and went down to the basement where I have a cot set up for just such times. Dark, quiet. The sleep paralysis and shadow entity dream happens. I just sigh in my dream and force myself awake. Go back to sleep, happens a second time, just like the first. It's like, dammit, I need a few hours before shit goes crazy in the morning, so I go back to sleep again. The third time it happens, and I try to wake myself up, I end up in another dream (thinking I'm awake), with poltergeist-like activity around me. I literally said "Fuck! I never woke up." in that dream, and force myself awake one more time.

I gave up after that. Went back upstairs and just waited for the linemen to finish up so I could do my job and go home.

It used to really freak me out, now it's a nothingburger, and when I wake up, I'm exactly where I was, with cats sleeping undisturbed around me. So I'm 99.99% sure it's just my ADHD/OCD overactive brain having weird dreams.

But, yeah, I almost never remember dreams, and my internal monologue (usually accompanied by a random song playing in the background) never shuts up. Literal entire conversations play out in my imagination. I also read actual words when I'm reading. It's really an alien thought to me that some people don't have an active internal monologue, or don't really see the words when reading. You know...normal people.
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12/29/2025 12:08:35 AM EDT
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If it happens to you often enough, you get good at it.

One of my most recent episodes, I was stuck overnight at work, and went down to the basement where I have a cot set up for just such times. Dark, quiet. The sleep paralysis and shadow entity dream happens. I just sigh in my dream and force myself awake. Go back to sleep, happens a second time, just like the first. It's like, dammit, I need a few hours before shit goes crazy in the morning, so I go back to sleep again. The third time it happens, and I try to wake myself up, I end up in another dream (thinking I'm awake), with poltergeist-like activity around me. I literally said "Fuck! I never woke up." in that dream, and force myself awake one more time.

I gave up after that. Went back upstairs and just waited for the linemen to finish up so I could do my job and go home.

It used to really freak me out, now it's a nothingburger, and when I wake up, I'm exactly where I was, with cats sleeping undisturbed around me. So I'm 99.99% sure it's just my ADHD/OCD overactive brain having weird dreams.

But, yeah, I almost never remember dreams, and my internal monologue (usually accompanied by a random song playing in the background) never shuts up. Literal entire conversations play out in my imagination. I also read actual words when I'm reading. It's really an alien thought to me that some people don't have an active internal monologue, or don't really see the words when reading. You know...normal people.
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That one time is enough for me for a lifetime.  I’m glad it wasn't a regular thing. Almost 20 years ago now.  I cant imagine having that frequently. That said, being in control of it must be entertaining as hell.  It’s like, of, it’s you evil shadow guy holding me down, How are you today?

On the internal monologue, i cant see how someone couldn't have one, but people do say they don’t. What kind of a strange thing thst would be, not having a way to work out things in your head.
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12/29/2025 12:19:58 AM EDT
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I care. Just wanted to make sure you were OK medically.  

I rarely remember my dreams.  Kind of a good thing.  I do stay lost in my internal monologue. I live in my head man.

I did have that one bout of sleep paralysis and the evil shadow entity thing once. Ill never forget that.
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What kind of voice? Your internal monologue or something different? On sleep, are you having vivid dreams or lucid dreaming? Any kind of sleep paralysis style stuff?

Have you ruled out any medical issues like Apnea?

Just my internal dialog, no I'm not hearing strange voices lol.  Just not being able to shut down from the day.  Yeah lately and mainly during the day I have some pretty lucid dreams during a brief nap and once found myself in sleep paralysis. First time ever that I actually recall.  It was awesome!  I haven't dreamed in many many many years at least that I could remember but after doing a lot of self hypnosis and meditation type stuff things are getting interesting to say the least!  Especially when you reach the point of vibrating but I always screw up and think about it and pull out .  The self hypnosis is amazing if for no other reason to put my body fully asleep and escape the physical pain for a little while.  I had the Gateway tapes at one point but suddenly me and apparently many others have lost access.  Fortunately there are many other great YT channels for this and even the Monroe channel has a couple of the hypnosis sessions.  It's all the other amazing frequencies that I miss having.  I usually sleep quite well until my bladder wakes me numerous time a night.  Doctors have no answers.  All related to my back issues.


I care. Just wanted to make sure you were OK medically.  

I rarely remember my dreams.  Kind of a good thing.  I do stay lost in my internal monologue. I live in my head man.

I did have that one bout of sleep paralysis and the evil shadow entity thing once. Ill never forget that.
I also have an internal dialogue that never shuts up.  

I've had a handful of sleep paralysis episodes, including one recently, and don't like them.  

As far as dreams, I remember several per night and they are so vivid and real, that it's like I live two existences.  The fact that many people don't remember their dreams shocks me more than the lack of an internal dialogue.  I've always suspected the dream thing is just because I don't now, and never have, slept well during the night, so I wake up more frequently and remember more dreams.  I do sleep well during afternoon naps, but I also remember my dreams then, just fewer of them.
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12/29/2025 3:24:44 AM EDT
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That one time is enough for me for a lifetime.  I’m glad it wasn't a regular thing. Almost 20 years ago now.  I cant imagine having that frequently. That said, being in control of it must be entertaining as hell.  It’s like, of, it’s you evil shadow guy holding me down, How are you today?

On the internal monologue, i cant see how someone couldn't have one, but people do say they don’t. What kind of a strange thing thst would be, not having a way to work out things in your head.
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Nah. From what I've read here, you're stronger than that. It's nothing more than your animal brain shutting down your physical body (sleep paralysis), and then playing tricks on you. Like I said, it's happened so often to me, I'm used to it. It's also happened to a lot of people over the course of...all time. "Shadow People" and being unable to move/react is nearly universal across cultures and time periods. Which is more likely...that the Shadow People are real, and attempting to abduct/injure/interact with us, or that it's simply a biological/psychological reaction to a physical phenomena that keeps us from injuring ourselves in our sleep?

I say this as someone who apparently walked in his sleep for the first time ever, back in May. I woke up, limping across a dark bedroom, clutching his temple, not understanding how I got there. My entire right side was fucked up. Ankle, shin, knee, hip, shoulder, hand, and skull. My right index finger still can't close all the way, 8 months later (the bloodstain from my knuckle was at the first stair landing).

Long story short, I ended up with my first ever ambulance ride up to the ICU in Kalispell. No lights or sirens, because I was "Urgent" but not an "Emergency." Fuck you. I wanted lights and sirens. Four days in the ICU and a new blowhole drilled in my skull to relieve the pressure from a subdural hematoma later, and another month of recovery, and I assure you. I will take sleep paralysis and Shadow People making me wake myself up and snuggle a cat every time over that.

It's not real. My boys growl when someone comes up the driveway. They growl when my folks walk across it to come check on them. They are sound asleep when I wake up from one of those "nightmares." I trust that they would sense something amiss. They don't. So...just stupid dreams from my stupid, neurospicy brain.

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I also have an internal dialogue that never shuts up.  

I've had a handful of sleep paralysis episodes, including one recently, and don't like them.  

As far as dreams, I remember several per night and they are so vivid and real, that it's like I live two existences.  The fact that many people don't remember their dreams shocks me more than the lack of an internal dialogue.  I've always suspected the dream thing is just because I don't now, and never have, slept well during the night, so I wake up more frequently and remember more dreams.  I do sleep well during afternoon naps, but I also remember my dreams then, just fewer of them.
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I kind of envy you. The occasional dreams that I DO remember are so vivid, so interesting, so intriguing, that I wished I remembered more of them.

There was even one that I remembered that was life-altering. It happened just after I moved for the umpteenth time, started a new life and career, and was so reassuring that I knew I'd done the right thing, and kept going as opposed to doubting myself.

But I remember a few dreams...each year. I wish that wasn't so. I have the mental toughness, the intestinal fortitude, to deal with my dreams, but...I'm not allowed that. I wish it were different.

Yes, I realize I sound egotistical in this post, and just recently called someone else out on that. I understand how that appears, and the irony. I just think...dreams are important, and I miss understanding mine. I think I could, if I could only remember them.
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12/29/2025 9:15:15 AM EDT
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Nah. From what I've read here, you're stronger than that. It's nothing more than your animal brain shutting down your physical body (sleep paralysis), and then playing tricks on you. Like I said, it's happened so often to me, I'm used to it. It's also happened to a lot of people over the course of...all time. "Shadow People" and being unable to move/react is nearly universal across cultures and time periods. Which is more likely...that the Shadow People are real, and attempting to abduct/injure/interact with us, or that it's simply a biological/psychological reaction to a physical phenomena that keeps us from injuring ourselves in our sleep?

I say this as someone who apparently walked in his sleep for the first time ever, back in May. I woke up, limping across a dark bedroom, clutching his temple, not understanding how I got there. My entire right side was fucked up. Ankle, shin, knee, hip, shoulder, hand, and skull. My right index finger still can't close all the way, 8 months later (the bloodstain from my knuckle was at the first stair landing).

Long story short, I ended up with my first ever ambulance ride up to the ICU in Kalispell. No lights or sirens, because I was "Urgent" but not an "Emergency." Fuck you. I wanted lights and sirens. Four days in the ICU and a new blowhole drilled in my skull to relieve the pressure from a subdural hematoma later, and another month of recovery, and I assure you. I will take sleep paralysis and Shadow People making me wake myself up and snuggle a cat every time over that.

It's not real. My boys growl when someone comes up the driveway. They growl when my folks walk across it to come check on them. They are sound asleep when I wake up from one of those "nightmares." I trust that they would sense something amiss. They don't. So...just stupid dreams from my stupid, neurospicy brain.
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If you expect it and understand it, then it probably isn't scary at all after a few times?  I can see that.  It was completely unexpected for me and felt hyper real. It’s not a dream, but not awake. So it felt almost spiritual. In my case it was highly negative. It was an assault in feeling.  

But if it happened a lot and I knew exactly what it was, it would be an annoyance I think.  Getting restful sleep would probably be tough.

How long did it take before you figured it out?

I’ve read up on it and an interesting theory is that the brain has the image of something/someone standing over you as a call back to being in a similar state as a baby, brain still forming, and parents / people looking down on you in your crib.  It’s some kind of distortion of that.

Glad you didn’t stroke out man. I hope you are doing well.

(I’ve been to Kalispell, love it out there!)
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12/29/2025 9:19:23 AM EDT
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What I do know for fact is our lives are some sort of giant cosmic algorithm and the movie Groundhog Day definitely was not a fictional movie.  My life has been stuck in the same loop for months, possibly years now.  I only became aware of it a few months ago.  Same constant repeating times over and over and over no matter what I might try to change up during the day.  If you don’t already start paying very careful attention to your clocks, etc for repeating numbers.  It’s almost enough to drive you insane but it’s actually a good thing and you have to ability to change the algorithm.  As far as lucid dreams or whatever just play with it and have fun!  Absolutely nothing can actually harm your soul.  No matter if a wonderful dream or the worst nightmare.
12/29/2025 9:24:23 AM EDT
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What I do know for fact is our lives are some sort of giant cosmic algorithm and the movie Groundhog Day definitely was not a fictional movie.  My life has been stuck in the same loop for months, possibly years now.  I only became aware of it a few months ago.  Same constant repeating times over and over and over no matter what I might try to change up during the day.  If you don’t already start paying very careful attention to your clocks, etc for repeating numbers.  It’s almost enough to drive you insane but it’s actually a good thing and you have to ability to change the algorithm.  As far as lucid dreams or whatever just play with it and have fun!  Absolutely nothing can actually harm your soul.  No matter if a wonderful dream or the worst nightmare.
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I have had a few experiences of Deja Vu, but lasted for minutes instead of a few seconds.  It’s like I’ve played through this time before. It was kind of amusing to me.  No idea what causes it.  The big pile of jelly between our ears is pretty fascinating.
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12/29/2025 9:38:58 AM EDT
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If you expect it and understand it, then it probably isn't scary at all after a few times?  I can see that.  It was completely unexpected for me and felt hyper real. It's not a dream, but not awake. So it felt almost spiritual. In my case it was highly negative. It was an assault in feeling.  

But if it happened a lot and I knew exactly what it was, it would be an annoyance I think.  Getting restful sleep would probably be tough.

How long did it take before you figured it out?

I've read up on it and an interesting theory is that the brain has the image of something/someone standing over you as a call back to being in a similar state as a baby, brain still forming, and parents / people looking down on you in your crib.  It's some kind of distortion of that.

Glad you didn't stroke out man. I hope you are doing well.

(I've been to Kalispell, love it out there!)
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Nah. From what I've read here, you're stronger than that. It's nothing more than your animal brain shutting down your physical body (sleep paralysis), and then playing tricks on you. Like I said, it's happened so often to me, I'm used to it. It's also happened to a lot of people over the course of...all time. "Shadow People" and being unable to move/react is nearly universal across cultures and time periods. Which is more likely...that the Shadow People are real, and attempting to abduct/injure/interact with us, or that it's simply a biological/psychological reaction to a physical phenomena that keeps us from injuring ourselves in our sleep?

I say this as someone who apparently walked in his sleep for the first time ever, back in May. I woke up, limping across a dark bedroom, clutching his temple, not understanding how I got there. My entire right side was fucked up. Ankle, shin, knee, hip, shoulder, hand, and skull. My right index finger still can't close all the way, 8 months later (the bloodstain from my knuckle was at the first stair landing).

Long story short, I ended up with my first ever ambulance ride up to the ICU in Kalispell. No lights or sirens, because I was "Urgent" but not an "Emergency." Fuck you. I wanted lights and sirens. Four days in the ICU and a new blowhole drilled in my skull to relieve the pressure from a subdural hematoma later, and another month of recovery, and I assure you. I will take sleep paralysis and Shadow People making me wake myself up and snuggle a cat every time over that.

It's not real. My boys growl when someone comes up the driveway. They growl when my folks walk across it to come check on them. They are sound asleep when I wake up from one of those "nightmares." I trust that they would sense something amiss. They don't. So...just stupid dreams from my stupid, neurospicy brain.


If you expect it and understand it, then it probably isn't scary at all after a few times?  I can see that.  It was completely unexpected for me and felt hyper real. It's not a dream, but not awake. So it felt almost spiritual. In my case it was highly negative. It was an assault in feeling.  

But if it happened a lot and I knew exactly what it was, it would be an annoyance I think.  Getting restful sleep would probably be tough.

How long did it take before you figured it out?

I've read up on it and an interesting theory is that the brain has the image of something/someone standing over you as a call back to being in a similar state as a baby, brain still forming, and parents / people looking down on you in your crib.  It's some kind of distortion of that.

Glad you didn't stroke out man. I hope you are doing well.

(I've been to Kalispell, love it out there!)
If you fellas think sleep paralysis is weird, try waking up with the ability to move your "astral" body and not your physical body.

I've had sleep paralysis a few times but this other thing has happened several times in the last 5 years where my eyes are open and I can hear what's going on in the room, I can feel my arms and legs moving but I can see that they aren't actually moving.

Open eyes while laying on my side, see my hand laying there, lift up my hand and twiddle my fingers around with everything feeling normal but I can see that my hand never moved.  That's just the basic one.

Open eyes while sitting on the couch with my feet on the ottoman.  Try to stand up and feel my feet distinctly hit the floor but can see that my legs didn't move.  Start testing shit out and rub the couch, grab the fabric, yep all feels normal but hand never moved.  Grab my pants and lift my leg off the ottoman, feels normal and can feel the weight of my leg in my hand, can see my hand and leg never moved.  Repeat experiments until I snap out of it and can actually move, take note that I definitely never moved my body.

It has happened enough now that I experiment with different things whenever it occurs.  Everything FEELS normal (textures, hot/cold, weight, etc), but my body doesn't actually move.  It's like my brain is controlling a body that's in another dimension or some shit and it's not linked to dreaming.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/29/2025 9:44:11 AM EDT
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The last lucid dream I remember was just a few days ago when I dozed off in silence in my recliner for an hour or so as I often have to do during the day now.  I was in a room full of people at a party or meeting or something and sitting at a table.  Across from me was an absolutely gorgeous young blond in her late 30s- early 40s.  She started talking to me about this stuff.  It wasn’t a sexual type dream but boy I could have turned it into one and disappointed her greatly.  What I remember about this dream was the details I saw about her perfect complexion, her perfect breast size, the clothes she was wearing, etc.  My mind was so focused on picking up all the small details I was seeing about her I don’t remember a thing she was telling me.  And it may have been important!  
12/29/2025 9:47:46 AM EDT
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What I remember about this dream was the details I saw about her perfect complexion, her perfect breast size, the clothes she was wearing, etc.  My mind was so focused on picking up all the small details I was seeing about her I don't remember a thing she was telling me.  And it may have been important!  
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It's a test.  If you can ignore her perfect beauty and learn of all the universe's secrets, it means you are worthy of the knowledge.  And gay.
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12/29/2025 9:53:16 AM EDT
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If you fellas think sleep paralysis is weird, try waking up with the ability to move your "astral" body and not your physical body.

I've had sleep paralysis a few times but this other thing has happened several times in the last 5 years where my eyes are open and I can hear what's going on in the room, I can feel my arms and legs moving but I can see that they aren't actually moving.

Open eyes while laying on my side, see my hand laying there, lift up my hand and twiddle my fingers around with everything feeling normal but I can see that my hand never moved.  That's just the basic one.

Open eyes while sitting on the couch with my feet on the ottoman.  Try to stand up and feel my feet distinctly hit the floor but can see that my legs didn't move.  Start testing shit out and rub the couch, grab the fabric, yep all feels normal but hand never moved.  Grab my pants and lift my leg off the ottoman, feels normal and can feel the weight of my leg in my hand, can see my hand and leg never moved.  Repeat experiments until I snap out of it and can actually move, take note that I definitely never moved my body.

It has happened enough now that I experiment with different things whenever it occurs.  Everything FEELS normal (textures, hot/cold, weight, etc), but my body doesn't actually move.  It's like my brain is controlling a body that's in another dimension or some shit and it's not linked to dreaming.
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I try this daily now and sometimes several times a day using guided hypnosis videos.  I have come so so close but something always interrupts me at the last second.  I can easily put my body to sleep to the point I can’t even feel my heartbeat or my breathing and suddenly realizing that will often scare me and pull me out of it.  It is a wonderful experience though just putting your body asleep while your conscious mind stays awake.  We leave our bodies every night as is and just don’t know it so it’s not something difficult to do until you consciously try to do it.  I’ll get there one day!  According to the Monroe Institute guy that is the one that developed all the frequencies for the Gateway project when they worked with the CIA only about 15% of the people could actually do it fully like you described.

ETA this guy!  It’s a great interview and he gives a great explanation as to why the project the CIA was trying to do by using souls to actually go kill failed.  I’m certain they are still attempting this on their own but are definitely still using it for remote viewing as well as everyone else.

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12/29/2025 9:59:47 AM EDT
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I try this daily now and sometimes several times a day using guided hypnosis videos.  I have come so so close but something always interrupts me at the last second.  I can easily put my body to sleep to the point I can't even feel my heartbeat or my breathing and suddenly realizing that will often scare me and pull me out of it.  It is a wonderful experience though just putting your body asleep while your conscious mind stays awake.  We leave our bodies every night as is and just don't know it so it's not something difficult to do until you consciously try to do it.  I'll get there one day!  According to the Monroe Institute guy that is the one that developed all the frequencies for the Gateway project when they worked with the CIA only about 15% of the people could actually do it fully like you described.

ETA this guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lqMWKUG2A
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
If you fellas think sleep paralysis is weird, try waking up with the ability to move your "astral" body and not your physical body.

I've had sleep paralysis a few times but this other thing has happened several times in the last 5 years where my eyes are open and I can hear what's going on in the room, I can feel my arms and legs moving but I can see that they aren't actually moving.

Open eyes while laying on my side, see my hand laying there, lift up my hand and twiddle my fingers around with everything feeling normal but I can see that my hand never moved.  That's just the basic one.

Open eyes while sitting on the couch with my feet on the ottoman.  Try to stand up and feel my feet distinctly hit the floor but can see that my legs didn't move.  Start testing shit out and rub the couch, grab the fabric, yep all feels normal but hand never moved.  Grab my pants and lift my leg off the ottoman, feels normal and can feel the weight of my leg in my hand, can see my hand and leg never moved.  Repeat experiments until I snap out of it and can actually move, take note that I definitely never moved my body.

It has happened enough now that I experiment with different things whenever it occurs.  Everything FEELS normal (textures, hot/cold, weight, etc), but my body doesn't actually move.  It's like my brain is controlling a body that's in another dimension or some shit and it's not linked to dreaming.

I try this daily now and sometimes several times a day using guided hypnosis videos.  I have come so so close but something always interrupts me at the last second.  I can easily put my body to sleep to the point I can't even feel my heartbeat or my breathing and suddenly realizing that will often scare me and pull me out of it.  It is a wonderful experience though just putting your body asleep while your conscious mind stays awake.  We leave our bodies every night as is and just don't know it so it's not something difficult to do until you consciously try to do it.  I'll get there one day!  According to the Monroe Institute guy that is the one that developed all the frequencies for the Gateway project when they worked with the CIA only about 15% of the people could actually do it fully like you described.

ETA this guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lqMWKUG2A
I've dabbled with astral projection/OOB and the biggest difference with what's happening to me unintentionally upon waking is all the physical sensations are present.

With astral projection, I don't feel anything in the physical world.
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12/29/2025 10:36:48 AM EDT
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I've dabbled with astral projection/OOB and the biggest difference with what's happening to me unintentionally upon waking is all the physical sensations are present.

With astral projection, I don't feel anything in the physical world.
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
If you fellas think sleep paralysis is weird, try waking up with the ability to move your "astral" body and not your physical body.

I've had sleep paralysis a few times but this other thing has happened several times in the last 5 years where my eyes are open and I can hear what's going on in the room, I can feel my arms and legs moving but I can see that they aren't actually moving.

Open eyes while laying on my side, see my hand laying there, lift up my hand and twiddle my fingers around with everything feeling normal but I can see that my hand never moved.  That's just the basic one.

Open eyes while sitting on the couch with my feet on the ottoman.  Try to stand up and feel my feet distinctly hit the floor but can see that my legs didn't move.  Start testing shit out and rub the couch, grab the fabric, yep all feels normal but hand never moved.  Grab my pants and lift my leg off the ottoman, feels normal and can feel the weight of my leg in my hand, can see my hand and leg never moved.  Repeat experiments until I snap out of it and can actually move, take note that I definitely never moved my body.

It has happened enough now that I experiment with different things whenever it occurs.  Everything FEELS normal (textures, hot/cold, weight, etc), but my body doesn't actually move.  It's like my brain is controlling a body that's in another dimension or some shit and it's not linked to dreaming.

I try this daily now and sometimes several times a day using guided hypnosis videos.  I have come so so close but something always interrupts me at the last second.  I can easily put my body to sleep to the point I can't even feel my heartbeat or my breathing and suddenly realizing that will often scare me and pull me out of it.  It is a wonderful experience though just putting your body asleep while your conscious mind stays awake.  We leave our bodies every night as is and just don't know it so it's not something difficult to do until you consciously try to do it.  I'll get there one day!  According to the Monroe Institute guy that is the one that developed all the frequencies for the Gateway project when they worked with the CIA only about 15% of the people could actually do it fully like you described.

ETA this guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lqMWKUG2A
I've dabbled with astral projection/OOB and the biggest difference with what's happening to me unintentionally upon waking is all the physical sensations are present.

With astral projection, I don't feel anything in the physical world.

As I stated a couple of times I suffer severe chronic pain from a bad back along with gut and bladder pain that the Drs are not able to pinpoint what is causing it.  After more than 7 years of living hell and more test and procedures than I can count!  When it becomes more than I can take astral projection attempts at least give me my freedom back from this pain for a few minutes.  It’s really amazing to be able to do this and explains why unknowingly all these years sleeping at night or taking a nap was my only escape.  Now I can do it and be aware a lot of the time.  One of my best times is when my low dose of Oxycodone has about worn off and I’m waiting on my second dose to kick back in where I can go again for a while.
Honestly I had never even heard the term astral projection until this year.  I was very aware of people having OBEs but never being able to do that consciously.
12/29/2025 11:26:35 AM EDT
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I've had 3 different dreams in the last 60+ years that were premontions in detail featuring people a had yet to meet.
12/29/2025 3:53:16 PM EDT
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If you expect it and understand it, then it probably isn't scary at all after a few times?  I can see that.  It was completely unexpected for me and felt hyper real. It’s not a dream, but not awake. So it felt almost spiritual. In my case it was highly negative. It was an assault in feeling.  

But if it happened a lot and I knew exactly what it was, it would be an annoyance I think.  Getting restful sleep would probably be tough.

How long did it take before you figured it out?
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If you expect it and understand it, then it probably isn't scary at all after a few times?  I can see that.  It was completely unexpected for me and felt hyper real. It’s not a dream, but not awake. So it felt almost spiritual. In my case it was highly negative. It was an assault in feeling.  

But if it happened a lot and I knew exactly what it was, it would be an annoyance I think.  Getting restful sleep would probably be tough.

How long did it take before you figured it out?


It was kind of odd, actually. I had had such dreams intermittently for years, and as you say, they were scary as hell. Hyper real is an accurate description, and the majority of them were we laying there paralyzed and half-asleep, knowing there was something shadowy near me, standing over me, or reaching for me, and no matter how much I wanted to defend myself, my limbs felt like they were stuck in cold honey. Couldn't raise an arm, couldn't run, just in ridiculous slow-motion. A few times I woke up gasping and near-screaming in panic.

They were very rare though, usually not even every year. I dreaded when the next one would show up.

Then, for my job, I moved back to MT (where I grew up). Alone, recently divorced, and in a tiny-ass little town on the Res, in the middle of nowhere. No support network other than my co-workers (all at least 90 minutes away in other parts of the state), my folks (6+ hours away in Billings), and my cats. Made a few friends locally, but usually only saw other people on Thursday nights at the bar for Trivia Night.

The dreams started up with a alarming regularity. Multiple times a month I'd wake up sweating and shaking, finally able to move my limbs. Always safe in bed, always with sleeping cats cuddled up who'd briefly wake up for some scritches before settling back down again. I started to realize, slowly, that there was nothing there, that it was in my head. Zero reaction from the felines helped a lot with that. The real trigger came one night when I was having one of the dreams, scared shitless, unable to move...and that's when it hit me. That was the common denominator, the sleep paralysis. Because of it, I suddenly knew I was asleep and dreaming. The terror vanished. I still had butterflies in my stomach, but it wasn't fear anymore, more just that feeling of nervousness when you have to do something like speak in public.

I told myself to wake up, and it worked. Still safe in my bedroom, furry little idiots scattered around sleeping. Ever since then, I've always been able to wake myself up, mostly just annoyed that I'm missing sleep. That was 2015-2018 or so, as far as a time frame. I'm sure it was because of all the stress I was under at the time. Since then I've built a house, moved in, there's a second one across the driveway my folks retired into, I've made some closer friends and reconnected with older ones, even dipped my toe back into the dating pool (didn't work out, yet it did...she and I dated about a year and a half before we both decided it wasn't "right," and instead became best friends...for 8+ years now).

Getting life back on track, having a plan to pay off the house and actually retire in about 8 years, having a support network...the dreams stopped. Or, rather, went back to a couple times a year, and I can just wake myself up and be annoyed for a bit. I can't really control them, i.e. it's not really lucid dreaming, but I am fully aware of being in the dream, so in that respect, there is a type of lucidity. I dunno...maybe I could learn to control them, if I were willing to hang around in them longer. I'm not though, I just want it over and to get back to sleep. None of us get enough of that as it is.

I’ve read up on it and an interesting theory is that the brain has the image of something/someone standing over you as a call back to being in a similar state as a baby, brain still forming, and parents / people looking down on you in your crib.  It’s some kind of distortion of that.

Glad you didn’t stroke out man. I hope you are doing well.

(I’ve been to Kalispell, love it out there!)


Thanks. I'm fine, and pretty glad to still be here too. If I hadn't made the turn to the left and fell down the first flight of stairs, I'd have gone straight over the rail and 15+ feet to the tile below. I try to remember to wedge the door now, just open enough for the pets to get in and out, but not enough for me.

Weird thing, not remembering what happened. I assume I was sleep walking, which I haven't done before or since. I literally never go downstairs at night unless it's to check out an odd noise or something, and then I assure you, I'm fully awake, have a flashlight, and can either have a firearm or get to one in a few steps. So, yeah...weird event I feel pretty lucky to have gotten through.

I do love MT, having grown up here...but I'm getting tired of snow, so when I retire, I may move somewhere warmer. And single story.
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12/29/2025 4:55:49 PM EDT
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I just want to give a heads up for those interested since I already posted this in the Danny Jones thread as well as the ancient structures thread in general about a new interview with Jeffery Dunn's latest research on the functions of the great pyramids as well as all the ancient structures around the world.  This dude has been on this for a while now and damn if he isn't getting close to really figuring out why all these thing exist.  Two years ago my threads about these findings were getting locked but now it's all turning out to be pretty fucking real and much more understood and mainstream.  It really worth the 3 plus hours.  I'm just slowly breaking it up into chunks myself.
12/31/2025 9:26:27 AM EDT
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I was surprised my phone camera even captured this moving object this morning which I’m sure is likely just a satellite or hell it could be the ISS for all I know but just an example of what I now see every freaking time I go out and look up.  Without fail something is moving sometimes anomalous sometimes not like this one.  It loaded as a short so I’ll just provide the link.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZHd1TlywljA?si=q2jSqhSXCM6wyHCr
12/31/2025 9:29:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
I was surprised my phone camera even captured this moving object this morning which I'm sure is likely just a satellite or hell it could be the ISS for all I know but just an example of what I now see every freaking time I go out and look up.  Without fail something is moving sometimes anomalous sometimes not like this one.  It loaded as a short so I'll just provide the link.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZHd1TlywljA?si=q2jSqhSXCM6wyHCr
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100% a satellite.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/31/2025 10:24:35 AM EDT
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I've dabbled with astral projection/OOB and the biggest difference with what's happening to me unintentionally upon waking is all the physical sensations are present.

With astral projection, I don't feel anything in the physical world.
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How far from hour body do you project?
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12/31/2025 11:06:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sq40:


How far from hour body do you project?
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I've dabbled with astral projection/OOB and the biggest difference with what's happening to me unintentionally upon waking is all the physical sensations are present.

With astral projection, I don't feel anything in the physical world.


How far from hour body do you project?
Depends.  I haven't done it intentionally in about 15 years.  I've had the "barely got out and reacted which snapped me back" experience a few times.  I've gone a little further, into adjacent rooms or over the roof of the house and such.  I've also had experiences that felt like very detailed remote viewing where I was somewhere else, not just "recieving images".

I've also projected my consciousness into other times/places so I can relate to the kids in the Telepathy Tapes talking about "the hill".  I've never seen the exact place they're talking about but I've found myself in places filled with a welcoming, celebratory, "loving" energy inhabited by other people.  I've also had an experience where something very clearly and aggressively told me "you aren't supposed to be here" and shoved me out.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/31/2025 11:16:32 AM EDT
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Are we still talking about the movie?
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12/31/2025 11:44:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
100% a satellite.
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Oh I agree, was just shocked my camera caught it and didn't use zoom which helped.  Next time I catch something good I will try again but they often aren't bright like this one which compared to Venus in brightness.
12/31/2025 11:45:21 AM EDT
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Probably not until another trailer drops.
12/31/2025 12:50:44 PM EDT
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Just had a random thought this morning. After watching part of the Billy Corgan podcast with Dan Farah yesterday, Dan mentioned having worked with Steven Spielberg in the past and saying he thinks Spielberg is the best movie maker of all time.

What if they collaborated on the timing for release of their films? First is Dan’s documentary, followed by Spielberg’s fictional film on what happens in society because of disclosure.

Random thought while having my morning cup of coffee.
12/31/2025 2:16:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI:
Just had a random thought this morning. After watching part of the Billy Corgan podcast with Dan Farah yesterday, Dan mentioned having worked with Steven Spielberg in the past and saying he thinks Spielberg is the best movie maker of all time.

What if they collaborated on the timing for release of their films? First is Dan's documentary, followed by Spielberg's fictional film on what happens in society because of disclosure.

Random thought while having my morning cup of coffee.
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I don't think it's a coincidence that AoD was released, then 6 months later we're getting Spielberg's movie, and not long after that, Joseph Kosinski (director of Top Gun: Maverick) is releasing a movie with David Grusch advising.  Kosinski's "fictional" film focuses on "intelligence agents who uncover a secret UAP collection and reverse engineering program".

That's not an accident.  Skeptics will claim "it's because UFO stuff is popular" but there's a reason Hollywood is shifting away from sci-fi tropes and working to get this stuff out to a wider audience.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/31/2025 2:52:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Depends.  I haven't done it intentionally in about 15 years.  I've had the "barely got out and reacted which snapped me back" experience a few times.  I've gone a little further, into adjacent rooms or over the roof of the house and such.  I've also had experiences that felt like very detailed remote viewing where I was somewhere else, not just "recieving images".

I've also projected my consciousness into other times/places so I can relate to the kids in the Telepathy Tapes talking about "the hill".  I've never seen the exact place they're talking about but I've found myself in places filled with a welcoming, celebratory, "loving" energy inhabited by other people.  I've also had an experience where something very clearly and aggressively told me "you aren't supposed to be here" and shoved me out.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I've dabbled with astral projection/OOB and the biggest difference with what's happening to me unintentionally upon waking is all the physical sensations are present.

With astral projection, I don't feel anything in the physical world.


How far from hour body do you project?
Depends.  I haven't done it intentionally in about 15 years.  I've had the "barely got out and reacted which snapped me back" experience a few times.  I've gone a little further, into adjacent rooms or over the roof of the house and such.  I've also had experiences that felt like very detailed remote viewing where I was somewhere else, not just "recieving images".

I've also projected my consciousness into other times/places so I can relate to the kids in the Telepathy Tapes talking about "the hill".  I've never seen the exact place they're talking about but I've found myself in places filled with a welcoming, celebratory, "loving" energy inhabited by other people.  I've also had an experience where something very clearly and aggressively told me "you aren't supposed to be here" and shoved me out.


This fascinated me.  Have you tested it with hidden objects and the like?
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/31/2025 3:00:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I don't think it's a coincidence that AoD was released, then 6 months later we're getting Spielberg's movie, and not long after that, Joseph Kosinski (director of Top Gun: Maverick) is releasing a movie with David Grusch advising.  Kosinski's "fictional" film focuses on "intelligence agents who uncover a secret UAP collection and reverse engineering program".

That's not an accident.  Skeptics will claim "it's because UFO stuff is popular" but there's a reason Hollywood is shifting away from sci-fi tropes and working to get this stuff out to a wider audience.
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Well, to be fair, it could be a coincidence for exactly the reason you mentioned...popularity produces money.

Hollywood is pretty infamous for this Just of the top of my head, here are the themes from some years past:

Deep Impact and Armageddon
Tombstone and Wyatt Earp
Mission to Mars and Red Planet
Any year a Marvel Studios picture did well and a Sony Marvel or DC movie flopped
Any other year when 2-3 movies about the same topic were released together...there's lots of them.

Now, those are obviously not actual "coincidences." They're deliberate studio decisions that when one announces a movie that's projected to be popular and profitable, other studios pile onto the idea.

This could be another example of that. Is it? No clue, just tossing out the idea.

Interestingly, as a side-note, one of the movies is usually pure entertainment fantasy (Armageddon, Tombstone, Red Planet) while the other tends to be more "scientifically or historically accurate" (in as far as they decide to take that, i.e. Deep Impact, Wyatt Earp, Mission to Mars). That second one often does much worse at the box office.

Spielberg's film will probably make a lot of money. Kosinski's might not. Or maybe they'll both be successful. Time will tell.
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