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Posted: 11/26/2016 4:12:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HeavyMetal]
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A basic piston setup like a Scubapro Mkll and 190 second is fine. Maintenance is easy on these. You can source most of the parts for rebuilds for these and even make the lp seat out of sheet material and a punch. Vintage Double Hose has cheap rebuild kits for the MKII. The 190/195/290/380/390/395 all have the same critical guts and all use the same rebuild parts. My low mix regs for non-backgas bottles are of that series. You can find them cheap on ebay and rebuild them easily if you have a few tools. I used to be a scubapro reg tech so I went to a rebuild course. It's been years since I did it for a shop but I have my notes and tools and they are stupid easy to work on. Hey Dan, you are affiliated with a Scubapro shop right? I need a few parts to fix some project regs I am working on, could you order them for me? I will gladly make it worth your while. I can give you the Scubapro part numbers. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:06:31 PM EDT
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I'm not going to be rebuilding or servicing my own regs.
Just got back from DRIS (friends from Ohio actually drove in today to go shopping there!). Bought the She-P, kit with the glues and tape, and a Halcyon P-value. Will take my suit in for P-valve installation in a few weeks. Didn't intend to buy it all today, so I didn't have my suit with me. Now I get to do some "landscaping" and figure out how to glue it on so it stays on.   
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Posted: 11/26/2016 6:15:44 PM EDT
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My Atomics go back to the factory for service. My Scubapro gets done by me. I trust no one else to service my gear.
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Posted: 11/26/2016 6:18:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal:
My Atomics go back to the factory for service. My Scubapro gets done by me. I trust no one else to service my gear. My LDS has several very good reg guys. They have an excellent record, so I'm not worried about bad work on my regs. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 6:51:33 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
My LDS has several very good reg guys. They have an excellent record, so I'm not worried about bad work on my regs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
My Atomics go back to the factory for service. My Scubapro gets done by me. I trust no one else to service my gear. My LDS has several very good reg guys. They have an excellent record, so I'm not worried about bad work on my regs. your LDS is exactly the average LDS though. I'm about to an equipment specialish class taught by a factory service tech that will leave me able to service my own regs. That way, if they break in the sticks, I can fix them in the sticks. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 8:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
your LDS is exactly the average LDS though. I'm about to an equipment specialish class taught by a factory service tech that will leave me able to service my own regs. That way, if they break in the sticks, I can fix them in the sticks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Marie:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
My Atomics go back to the factory for service. My Scubapro gets done by me. I trust no one else to service my gear. My LDS has several very good reg guys. They have an excellent record, so I'm not worried about bad work on my regs. your LDS is exactly the average LDS though. I'm about to an equipment specialish class taught by a factory service tech that will leave me able to service my own regs. That way, if they break in the sticks, I can fix them in the sticks. Regs aren't all that difficult to work on. I know enough but I'm fortunate to know my shop has been servicing regs since the 70s and has parts that have been discontinued for over a decade. Most shops these days send everything to another shop for service. . |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 8:58:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TailHunter:
Regs aren't all that difficult to work on. I know enough but I'm fortunate to know my shop has been servicing regs since the 70s and has parts that have been discontinued for over a decade. Most shops these days send everything to another shop for service. . Not DRIS. Heck, I've seen regs from all over the globe in there for service |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 9:21:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TailHunter:
Regs aren't all that difficult to work on. I know enough but I'm fortunate to know my shop has been servicing regs since the 70s and has parts that have been discontinued for over a decade. Most shops these days send everything to another shop for service. . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TailHunter:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Marie:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
My Atomics go back to the factory for service. My Scubapro gets done by me. I trust no one else to service my gear. My LDS has several very good reg guys. They have an excellent record, so I'm not worried about bad work on my regs. your LDS is exactly the average LDS though. I'm about to an equipment specialish class taught by a factory service tech that will leave me able to service my own regs. That way, if they break in the sticks, I can fix them in the sticks. Regs aren't all that difficult to work on. I know enough but I'm fortunate to know my shop has been servicing regs since the 70s and has parts that have been discontinued for over a decade. Most shops these days send everything to another shop for service. . You can find parts for a lot of older regs at vintage double hose.dot com. |
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Posted: 11/27/2016 3:50:26 PM EDT
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Let me just say that my She-P adventures yesterday evening were a freaking riot. You have to do "landscaping" and then figure out how to position the thing properly before gluing it to your nether regions. Yes, glue. The She-P website has videos of how to do it, using an anatomically correct model of the female gential region. Once you've got it on, the best way to test it is to drink a lot of water and to be in the bathtub or shower in case of leaks. Takes some experimentation to determine the correct positioning and way to put it on, plus how much glue.
I laughed myself silly. :D Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/27/2016 5:56:03 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
I got lucky - no water in my first stage. Reg guy blew it out just to be on the safe side. I have the Aqualung Legend LX. Turns out the first stage has an "Auto Closure Device" that closes when not hooked to a tank. No cost, AquaLung Legend LX Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Never pressurize a first if you got water in it unless it is an emergency. You can pop a diaphragm and you will ruin your spg by getting water in it. In an emergency under water, you can switch a piston on a bottle. |
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Posted: 11/27/2016 8:16:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
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Spent 90 minutes in a pool this afternoon with both my instructors (they're a couple). Did 500 yards. No scuba gear, just mask, fins, snorkel, and a kick board.
Worked on flutter and frog. I've finally got much better form on the flutter and it didn't hurt my left hip. The frog is more challenging, but I had it about half the time. My left hip hurts a little now (out of the water), but I expect I'll be sore until I'm more used to it. I seem to have hit upon a mask that doesn't leak. Cressi Pano 3, triple pane, black skirt, $30 off Amazon. Friend has the exact same one and I decided to give it a try. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/28/2016 3:00:39 PM EDT
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Talked to the Alpena dive shop/charter operator and the dates for the trip next July are locked in. I'm sending off the deposit. I'm so excited. :D
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Posted: 12/7/2016 3:48:30 PM EDT
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I'm going down to Mermet with a friend or two at the end of January. Yes, I am nuts.
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Posted: 12/7/2016 9:35:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Think I may have found my pony reg. Someone on SB posted an Apeks Tungsten XTX200 DIN reg set for $300. 2 years old, has been used, apparent proof of service in September of this year. New is $895, the Apeks XTX50 that was recommended to me as a pony reg is nearly $600 new. I've emailed off for pics. Price is too good to pass up.
Would you guys be willing to take a quick look at the pics just to make sure it's kosher? Thanks! |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 11:33:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SleeperShooter]
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Definitely post the pics. I'd ask as a condition of sale that you have 7 days once received to have it checked out by a technician to ensure it's good to go. Anytime I'm buying high end used gear, especially scuba related, I generally ask that. Most people have no issues with that.
Eta: Just saw that it was serviced in Sept. I'd still get my tech to check it out. Trust, but verify, when it comes to life saving gear. |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 11:42:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SleeperShooter:
Definitely post the pics. I'd ask as a condition of sale that you have 7 days once received to have it checked out by a technician to ensure it's good to go. Anytime I'm buying high end used gear, especially scuba related, I generally ask that. Most people have no issues with that. Eta: Just saw that it was serviced in Sept. I'd still get my tech to check it out. Trust, but verify, when it comes to life saving gear. I'd definitely take it in to DRIS. |
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Posted: 12/8/2016 5:29:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
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Ended up buying a new in box, still shrink wrapped Apeks XTX50, din with swivel turret. Reg guy at DRIS had recommended this one. Got it for $400 shipped. New is $600. I'm satisfied. Had the $$ and it fit my budget, so all is good.
Fun underwater attractions at Mermet. There's even the 727 plane from the US Marshals movie. Link ETA: Took the easy way out rather than dealing with trying to look for a used tank for a pony. Christmas prezzie. :) Sent an email to my LDS asking them to put aside a 30 cu ft pony, 1.5" spg, 6" hp hose that I'll pick up when I'm there Saturday. I'm going to rig it out myself. I should have the reg set on Monday. I'll take into the shop to have the reg guy assemble and look over. Decided to just do it now since I'm going to be getting in pool time this winter and I can work with it then, as well as having it for my AOW class next season. Might as well train with it if I'm going to dive with one. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 11:11:20 AM EDT
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I'll be in the pool for several hours today. Some students cancelled and the lane at the big community pool was already reserved, so I get underwater time today, not just kick work at the health club pool. :D Hope to have time to test new camera underwater, too. This is the replacement camera for the Intova Nova that wouldn't recognize the memory card, so company replaced it with the next higher up model (original model has been discontinued).
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Posted: 12/17/2016 11:54:00 AM EDT
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How are you going to rig your pony. Most people try several different methods and mounts then just end up slinging it like a state bottle.
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Posted: 12/17/2016 12:02:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jerrwhy01:
How are you going to rig your pony. Most people try several different methods and mounts then just end up slinging it like a state bottle. Planning on using left side D rings. I don't like clutter on my chest, so I don't want to do it diagonally as some people I've seen do. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 12:06:50 PM EDT
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This is how I've got it set up now. I was going to rig it from hardware store, but shop gave me a really good deal on a stage kit, so I just went that way. I'm picking up my reg set today from the shop. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:26:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
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Spent 2+ hours in the pool. I'm pleasantly exhausted. My frog kick is still enough to make a cat laugh,
but it's improving and my flutter is much better. I now have some video to help see what I'm doing wrong.
I'm going to bring my pony to the next session on the 7th. ETA: in emails with my instructors after yesterday's pool session, they commented that I have greatly improved since my OW dives and our kick work pool session a few weeks back. |
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Posted: 12/18/2016 11:42:19 PM EDT
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Pony with reg attached. What do you use to hold the second stage, or do you just have the hose pushed down all the way into the hose holder and just keep it there? |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 10:10:15 AM EDT
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I use a snorkel mask holder, but lately I don't use anything. Buy or make a second bungee and put it up near the neck of the tank to hold the reg in tight. I also carry a spare lift bag on my pony as well, if the dive calls for one. I have several sets of bungee on my tanks.
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Posted: 12/19/2016 2:08:26 PM EDT
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I have video from my pool session Saturday. If you want to see it, shoot me a PM. You'll have a good laugh. I did myself. There are some WTF moments when my legs aren't quite sure what to do when I'm working on the frog kick. It's funny as hell.
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Posted: 12/19/2016 3:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
I have video from my pool session Saturday. If you want to see it, shoot me a PM. You'll have a good laugh. I did myself. There are some WTF moments when my legs aren't quite sure what to do when I'm working on the frog kick. It's funny as hell. It seems goofy now but after doing it for so long I literally have difficulty doing the scissor kick. |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 4:32:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jerrwhy01:
It seems goofy now but after doing it for so long I literally have difficulty doing the scissor kick. I use scissor for getting somewhere, a more or less frog for stability and fine movement while looking around, but when I'm trying to get in close for a picture I do some stuff that defies description and classification.
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Posted: 12/19/2016 10:31:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: floridahunter07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
<img src="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/279183/IMG-2861-110418.jpg " /> Pony with reg attached. What do you use to hold the second stage, or do you just have the hose pushed down all the way into the hose holder and just keep it there? IMO a longer hose would be better for the pony bottle, but that's coming from a tech diver's viewpoint and me thinking of it as a deco-style bottle setup that you just don't use for deco. If you can get the reg to your mouth comfortably and it works, then ignore this. I've always set my "buddy bottle" up with a long enough hose that I could leave it clipped to my D-rings and manipulate the valve with my left hand while running the hose around the back of my neck and the reg sits in my mouth after being routed over my right shoulder. This also gives you extra hose length if your buddy has an out of gas emergency so he/she can begin breathing off of the tank without you guys being mashed together until you can un-clip it from you and get it clipped to them for the trip to the surface. God forbid you both have a problem and need to buddy breathe off of it, a longer hose would allow that too. |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 11:26:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridahunter07:
IMO a longer hose would be better for the pony bottle, but that's coming from a tech diver's viewpoint and me thinking of it as a deco-style bottle setup that you just don't use for deco. If you can get the reg to your mouth comfortably and it works, then ignore this. I've always set my "buddy bottle" up with a long enough hose that I could leave it clipped to my D-rings and manipulate the valve with my left hand while running the hose around the back of my neck and the reg sits in my mouth after being routed over my right shoulder. This also gives you extra hose length if your buddy has an out of gas emergency so he/she can begin breathing off of the tank without you guys being mashed together until you can un-clip it from you and get it clipped to them for the trip to the surface. God forbid you both have a problem and need to buddy breathe off of it, a longer hose would allow that too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridahunter07:
Originally Posted By Marie:
<img src="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/279183/IMG-2861-110418.jpg " /> Pony with reg attached. What do you use to hold the second stage, or do you just have the hose pushed down all the way into the hose holder and just keep it there? IMO a longer hose would be better for the pony bottle, but that's coming from a tech diver's viewpoint and me thinking of it as a deco-style bottle setup that you just don't use for deco. If you can get the reg to your mouth comfortably and it works, then ignore this. I've always set my "buddy bottle" up with a long enough hose that I could leave it clipped to my D-rings and manipulate the valve with my left hand while running the hose around the back of my neck and the reg sits in my mouth after being routed over my right shoulder. This also gives you extra hose length if your buddy has an out of gas emergency so he/she can begin breathing off of the tank without you guys being mashed together until you can un-clip it from you and get it clipped to them for the trip to the surface. God forbid you both have a problem and need to buddy breathe off of it, a longer hose would allow that too. I'll test it out in the pool and go from there. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 12:10:02 AM EDT
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I sidemount and do my 2nd stages a bit differently. But a lot of folks like the clip on the 2nd, stage, then just clip it to your bungee necklace. That leaves enough play you can still jam it in your mouth hole without unclipping it if you're in a rush.
You'll want to practice clipping the bottle on and off in the water too. And you'll want to practice bailing out to that and back. Valve should be turned on whenever you put it on, and you test breathe it while watching the spg just like all your other regs. Every time. Always make sure you turn the valve off before you unclip it to prevent an unattended free flow. If you forget to undo the clip on the 2nd stage, don't worry, it'll remind you. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 12:40:26 AM EDT
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Also a few observations regarding your previous posts.
Frog kick, stick with it, once you get it figured out there's a lot more variation and power there. And there's nothing that says you can't switch styles back and forth if one starts bothering you. If your hip girdle is stiff there are some good stretches specifically for that. Soaking regs. I would say don't, unless you're diving salt water. Salt water is much harsher on gear. Fresh water, maybe give it a little rinse, that's it. If you haven't used them recently it helps to hook them up and exercise them once in a while so the seals don't take a set but that's about it. Other than making sure there's no spiders or anything lurking before you take your first pull. Warm clear water locations. It's worthwhile when you get the time/money/inclination. The springs and spring fed rivers in FL are amazing. Best thing about the salt water diving is all the life. Plenty of choices. But of course my last dive was in 55 degree water with <2' vis, so fun is where you find it. One caveat to the last statement, and you don't even need to dive to do it. Make a trip to Crystal River at least once to snorkel with the manatees. I don't know of a lot of other opportunities to have that kind of interaction with a wild animal. Early Februaryish is usually good, and get on the water as early as you can to beat the assholes out there, and also catch the manatees before they disperse for the day to graze. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 2:25:32 PM EDT
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Some people just make me laugh. A couple of people I know, who live on the coasts, have been urging me to take a GUE Fundies class. Umm, no. Even if I lived somewhat near an instructor (they're on the coasts and FL), paying several grand for a class isn't possible, plus there's no way I'd be able to do it physically (I've read enough accounts of Fundies classes on SB to know it's well beyond my capabilities, multiple long class days), between the sciatica and knees. Their response: "well, you've got most of the equipment already." As if that's good enough reason to take a very tough class.
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Posted: 12/20/2016 2:57:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
Some people just make me laugh. A couple of people I know, who live on the coasts, have been urging me to take a GUE Fundies class. Umm, no. Even if I lived somewhat near an instructor (they're on the coasts and FL), paying several grand for a class isn't possible, plus there's no way I'd be able to do it physically (I've read enough accounts of Fundies classes on SB to know it's well beyond my capabilities, multiple long class days), between the sciatica and knees. Their response: "well, you've got most of the equipment already." As if that's good enough reason to take a very tough class. The cultists could take the fun out of sex. While I certainly respect the skill, some of the people ruin it for me. I'll do it one day, but like you, I recognize I'm not ready. Incidentally, there are a few closer than the coasts. I know of one in Oklahoma. We were going to hire him to come here to do a class for 4 of us, but we thought it would be better to do pool work to get ready first. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 5:25:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
Some people just make me laugh. A couple of people I know, who live on the coasts, have been urging me to take a GUE Fundies class. Umm, no. Even if I lived somewhat near an instructor (they're on the coasts and FL), paying several grand for a class isn't possible, plus there's no way I'd be able to do it physically (I've read enough accounts of Fundies classes on SB to know it's well beyond my capabilities, multiple long class days), between the sciatica and knees. Their response: "well, you've got most of the equipment already." As if that's good enough reason to take a very tough class. The fundies class is actually very good. However, a lot of what you'll learn is GUE structure, philosophy, rationales, and approaches. That's great if you intend to stick with GUE and their core philosophy jives with yours. However, it's not a requirement as a lot of great diving explorers have no affiliation with GUE at all. In fact the world's record holder for longest linear penetration in a cave teaches thru TDI. GUE's biggest problem is that it's a very monolithic organization. It's very slow to adopt new approaches and has a one size fits all solution which is great if you fit into that solution. Personally, I'm not so sure that a lot of their ideals and philosophies make sense in today's world. Their actual in the water stuff is good, but in reality you can learn the trifecta of skills (buoyancy, trim, and propulsion) in any decent Intro to Tech course. Those 3 skills are really the foundation of all diving. There's a lot of other stuff to learn My advice if just dive and have fun. You're still very new at all this and you find that in a year or two you'll be doing things a lot differently than you are right now. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 5:57:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
[#35]
I plan on diving nearly every weekend next summer, and as often in the spring as dive buddies who dive wet will brave the cold water quarry.
I'm actually planning on the TDI Intro to Tech either next year or the year after, depending on schedule and budget. It's offered through my LDS and I already have the book. GUE's one size fits all mentality does not fit me at all. I just added a right hip D ring to my harness. Oh, the noes!
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Posted: 12/26/2016 6:59:52 PM EDT
[#36]
I finally joined the gym. Did 350 yards in the pool today. My ass hurts.
Exercising is proof I'm actually pretty serious about my diving. Exercise is the "e" word, otherwise!
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Posted: 12/26/2016 7:46:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
I finally joined the gym. Did 350 yards in the pool today. My ass hurts.
Exercising is proof I'm actually pretty serious about my diving. Exercise is the "e" word, otherwise! I have a motto for exercise. No pain, No pain. I could stand to lose a few pounds but I'm not ready yet. |
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Posted: 12/26/2016 7:47:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
[#38]
I'm of the no pain, no gain mentality. I'm beat. I will sleep well tonight. I'm going to aim for every other day in the pool. My frog kick was questionable and I didn't want to reinforce any bad habits, so I mostly did the flutter. I've got that puppy down now.
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Posted: 12/26/2016 8:24:19 PM EDT
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No pain, no corrective surgery.
There's a huge difference in being in "pain" and just having muscular soreness from exercise. It's very good to be able to recognize the difference, since one is normal, expected, and will quickly go away. The other can lead to further problems if not addressed or if ignored. |
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Posted: 12/26/2016 8:39:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Hell, my sole reason for lifting has been redistribution of muscle mass for better natural trim.
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Posted: 12/26/2016 8:46:31 PM EDT
[#41]
My pain is from unused muscles. I've been a veg for years. ;-).
I'm going to sleep very well tonight. My goal is to build up leg strength and perfect my kicks. I was entertainment for the people soaking in the hot tub at the gym. Someone finally asked. E why I was swimming with all the gear (mask, snorkel, find, kick board) and was amazed when I mentioned diving. My ass is going to be in much better shape by the beginning of April. |
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Posted: 1/14/2017 4:40:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Did a pool dive with a buddy at a local dive shop with its own pool on site. First time diving with my pony. Didn't feel lopsided or need to adjust my weighting at all. Just buoyancy, which I'm continuing to work on. I'm ridiculously proud of this pic, as it shows how much I've improved with the pool work over the past two months.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 11:55:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Looking good, it will make a big difference for you if you bring the pony tight up against your body. Keep up the good work!
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Posted: 1/17/2017 12:10:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45ACP_Marine:
Looking good, it will make a big difference for you if you bring the pony tight up against your body. Keep up the good work! Yeah, I've shortened up the rear bungie. Didn't realize until I'd seen the pic how long it was. And the 2nd stage will go on the top so it's not dragging. |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 11:42:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
[#45]
Hot damn. I will get to do my wreck class (as part of Advanced) on Lake Michigan this season. Instructor asked me I was interested. My response was hell, yes! It's often done at the local quarry, which has a 33' cabin cruiser sunk on the bottom.
As a "reward" for my hard work over this off-season, instructor also said I could put together a 6 pack of friends for a fun day on the lake. She crews for the shop's boats when she's not teaching at the local quarry. We'd still pay, of course, but it would be a group of friends. No random strangers.  
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Posted: 1/22/2017 9:47:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
[#46]
Looks like I'm going to be doing my deep class (as part of Advanced) on Lake Michigan, as well as wreck. Instructor suggested it. I'd not even considered it. I've got a free boat ride from when I bought my dry suit to use. The "deep hole" at Haigh Quarry is always dark, with a black sulphur layer starting at 60'. Viz is always questionable. I have a much greater chance of better viz on the lake.
It's been suggested I do my 4 specialties in order of uw nav, night, deep, and wreck. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 10:40:34 PM EDT
[#47]
Awesome! You'll enjoy it!
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Posted: 1/23/2017 5:29:15 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie:
Looks like I'm going to be doing my deep class (as part of Advanced) on Lake Michigan, as well as wreck. Instructor suggested it. I'd not even considered it. I've got a free boat ride from when I bought my dry suit to use. The "deep hole" at Haigh Quarry is always dark, with a black sulfur layer starting at 60'. Viz is always questionable. I have a much greater chance of better viz on the lake. It's been suggested I do my 4 specialties in order of uw nav, night, deep, and wreck. That's close to what I did. I skipped wreck because I knew I'd be getting into cave diving and quite frankly I had no interest in diving wrecks because there aren't any good spots within 3-4 hours of here. I'd have to go down to South Florida or the Panhandle to get anything decent, and then you're looking at stuff that starts at the 60-80 FSW mark and goes down below 200 FSW. The shallower wrecks aren't that big so they wouldn't take long to explore and the bigger ones are all deep so I'd want advanced nitrox/deco procedures to take full advantage of them. I sat in on a private Intro to Cave class my cave instructor was doing with another guy I know this weekend. Had to call the whole trip after one dive when I had equalization problems going from the Breakdown Room back into the Peanut tunnel at Peacock Springs... approximately 600 linear feet of penetration, but the top of the Breakdown Room is less than 20 feet deep. I couldn't get my ears to equalize going back down to the floor to re-enter the tunnel so I had to sit there for a few minutes and think of how fucked I'd be if I was doing a dive where there were a lot of depth changes (cave diving is definitely not a square profile thing - my computer logs look like someone gave a four year old a crayon and told him to draw a straight line). Peanut Tunnel: 
Was a fun swim out worrying about when or if my ear drum would rupture.
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Posted: 1/23/2017 7:03:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jerrwhy01]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridahunter07:
I sat in on a private Intro to Cave class my cave instructor was doing with another guy I know this weekend. Had to call the whole trip after one dive when I had equalization problems going from the Breakdown Room back into the Peanut tunnel at Peacock Springs... approximately 600 linear feet of penetration, but the top of the Breakdown Room is less than 20 feet deep. I couldn't get my ears to equalize going back down to the floor to re-enter the tunnel so I had to sit there for a few minutes and think of how fucked I'd be if I was doing a dive where there were a lot of depth changes (cave diving is definitely not a square profile thing - my computer logs look like someone gave a four year old a crayon and told him to draw a straight line). Peanut Tunnel: https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/225/535893853_8bae08e90f_b.jpg Was a fun swim out worrying about when or if my ear drum would rupture. 
Lots of uppy and downy in the Peanut tunnel. |
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Posted: 1/23/2017 9:25:55 PM EDT
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Lots of uppy and downy in Peanut is right! Dang!
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