Posted: 4/16/2014 9:56:52 AM EDT
| I thought it might be a good thing to have a thread for the diy'ers to discuss stuff like techniques, flavors, etc. Seems like there's more than a few of us doing it now. |
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I'll start.
Seems like a lot of the flavors I'm mixing up taste drastically different in say a tank @ 14 watts vs a sub-ohm dripper. Also, heavy VG mixes I'm doing for my drippers also taste very different than the same mix with more PG (so I don't keep getting dry hits in my kayfuns). So, the question is, do you find yourself making different recipes for edc tanks vs your sub-ohm dripper setups? |
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I kept meaning to start this thread but have been busy. But since you beat me to it why not make a list of the basic stuff you need to get started. I can see that question being asked more than once.  I was kinda thinking more along the lines of more specific Q&A for guys that are already started. An "Intro to DIY" thread might be a better place for what you're talking about. You're also a lot more qualified to do it seeing as how I just started diy and still have a ton to learn. |
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Here is a couple great places to get supplies- nic, pg, vg, flavors, etc.
Wizard Labs RTS Vapes Glass storage bottles I'm just getting started but here is one of the best reads on DIY I've read so far- http://ukvapers.org/Thread-GRIZWALD-s-GUIDE-TO-ALL-THINGS-MIXING *edit cause of post above... If intro DIY thread starts this post needs there instead. 
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| A follow up question. I'm finding I prefer the flavor of my heavy VG juices over the same flavors with more PG. The problem is, they don't wick well in my kayfuns and I get a lot of dry hits. Rather than upping the PG, do any of you thin out heavy VG juices with water or alchohol? How's that working for you if so? |
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A follow up question. I'm finding I prefer the flavor of my heavy VG juices over the same flavors with more PG. The problem is, they don't wick well in my kayfuns and I get a lot of dry hits. Rather than upping the PG, do any of you thin out heavy VG juices with water or alchohol? How's that working for you if so? I'm in learn mode here in this thread as i don't DIY... Yet. What do you define as a "heavy blend"? |
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That's just the term I used, but 80+ % VG is what I'm referring to. Quoted:
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I'm in learn mode here in this thread as i don't DIY... Yet. What do you define as a "heavy blend"? That's just the term I used, but 80+ % VG is what I'm referring to. Ahh, ok. 
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Juices will taste different in different devices. Ask Mouse. I sent him some juice and all he tasted was Watermelon in a PT2 at lower watts. He put that same juice in a dripper and the blueberry came out. Different flavors themselves also taste different at different power settings. As far as the VG/PG question, PG carries flavor more than VG, so different ratios might taste different. I tone down the nic and PG for my dripper juices so it's not too harsh and so I don't have a heart attack.
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Juices will taste different in different devices. Ask Mouse. I sent him some juice and all he tasted was Watermelon in a PT2 at lower watts. He put that same juice in a dripper and the blueberry came out. Different flavors themselves also taste different at different power settings. As far as the VG/PG question, PG carries flavor more than VG, so different ratios might taste different. I tone down the nic and PG for my dripper juices so it's not too harsh and so I don't have a heart attack. This if it is to thick tho Distilled water to thin it. But sub ohm at your own health risks involved in the nic level. |
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*edit cause of post above... If intro DIY thread starts this post needs there instead.
I tried that a while back, for what it's worth: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_175/1598403_The_basics__getting_started_with_DIY_juices.html |
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Affirmative on the nic levels. I use stupid low nic levels regardless so that's not an issue for me.
I'm mainly trying to figure out the best way to proceed with something I'm working on. I have a flavor in my head. I know I can get it with the mix of flavors I'm using. I'm already very close. The issue I'm hitting is that the flavors change so much between devices and also PG/VG ratios. I can't do much about the former, but I can control the PG/VG ratios. To my taste buds, so far at least, 80+% VG gets very close to what I'm trying to achieve. If I up the PG ratio, the flavor is off. The question about adding water is mainly to see if it's viable to keep my high VG ratio while thinning it enough with water to wick reliably in all my tanks. |
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I tried that a while back, for what it's worth: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_175/1598403_The_basics__getting_started_with_DIY_juices.html Quoted:
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*edit cause of post above... If intro DIY thread starts this post needs there instead.
I tried that a while back, for what it's worth: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_175/1598403_The_basics__getting_started_with_DIY_juices.html I remember a nice intro to thread a while back. Maybe your original post should get stickied. |
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I remember a nice intro to thread a while back. Maybe your original post should get stickied. Quoted:
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*edit cause of post above... If intro DIY thread starts this post needs there instead.
I tried that a while back, for what it's worth: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_175/1598403_The_basics__getting_started_with_DIY_juices.html I remember a nice intro to thread a while back. Maybe your original post should get stickied. Just bumped it up and added links above. |
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Just whipped up another tasty juice. All TFA.
9% Blueberry Extra 8% Raspberry Sweet 4% Strawberry 5% Bavarian Cream I dripped it and it tasted GREAT!!!! Gonna let it steep some more since it has cream. First impression was I could probably bump up the cream a little but I could still taste it. |
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Just whipped up another tasty juice. All TFA. 9% Blueberry Extra 8% Raspberry Sweet 4% Strawberry 5% Bavarian Cream I dripped it and it tasted GREAT!!!! Gonna let it steep some more since it has cream. First impression was I could probably bump up the cream a little but I could still taste it. or drop the blueberry and raspberry they tend to override |
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Just whipped up another tasty juice. All TFA. 9% Blueberry Extra 8% Raspberry Sweet 4% Strawberry 5% Bavarian Cream I dripped it and it tasted GREAT!!!! Gonna let it steep some more since it has cream. First impression was I could probably bump up the cream a little but I could still taste it. or drop the blueberry and raspberry they tend to override I noticed that with the regular raspberry. The raspberry sweet has a little something in it that makes it pop. |
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I actually got two recipes very close this week. Maybe needs some minor tweeking but for my tastes, they're pretty good.
FA Tiramisu 7% FA Vienna Cream 4% TFA Chocolate 6% I'm trying to work some strawberry into the mix above, but haven't got it right yet. Another that's kinda different, but I'm digging it: TFA Orange Cream 10% TFA Raspberry Sweet 10% TFA Menthol 0.4% |
| is anyone coloring their juices? if so; with what? I know the safety blah blah food coloring inhilation concerns blah blah blah, but I dont like writing on my bottles so I can reuse them later with different stuff and Id like to color my top blends just for memory sake |
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is anyone coloring their juices? if so; with what? I know the safety blah blah food coloring inhilation concerns blah blah blah, but I dont like writing on my bottles so I can reuse them later with different stuff and Id like to color my top blends just for memory sake No. Unless you really like building coils. Darker juices are known to gunk up coils faster. |
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Got my first batch of single flavors mixed last night. Only did 12 flavors, but at three different percentages. 36 tastings changing out cotton each time was more work than the mixing. Put together a notebook of everything. Going try to do two more batches this week so every thing will be steeping at close to the same time. Some of the fruits already taste pretty good.
I did not really know how hard it was going be when I jumped in and made my orders. Now I'm glad I did, it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. If anybody is on the fence and not sure if they should/could do it, I would say go for it! |
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Just hit Azure Vaping yesterday for my first batch of DIY supplies. I wanted to start small before I hit it in true ARFCOM fashion. I got a couple 120s of vg, onenof pg, some 100 mg nic, and some flavors and sweetener. We will see. I'm sure I'll be ordering shit by the gallon before long.
If someone would be kind enough to explain the procedure for crocknpot steeping, I would greatly appreciate it. |
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... If someone would be kind enough to explain the procedure for crocknpot steeping, I would greatly appreciate it. Here's what I've been doing. Have the crock pot running on low. From what I read, you don't want to go above about 150 F. After mixing and shaking your juice, put the bottle in the crock pot for several hours. That's pretty much it. I'm finding that 1-2 hours will get fruit flavors developed enough to get a good idea of the flavors although they will continue to develop over the next 24 hours of normal steeping. For creams and more complex stuff, I've been leaving in about 4 hours. At that point you can start to judge the flavors but once again, they'll continue to develop over the next few days. So basically, it just speeds up the point at which you can start to judge the flavoring. My experience so far is that the flavors are about 90% developed using the times above but will continue to evolve subtly with more normal steep time. ETA: I'm also finding that the sweetness tends to take longer to fully develop so err on the side of less sweet when doing your initial taste testing if you're doing it right after speed steeping. |
You guys ever have a flavor in your head; experiment and nail what you're thinking, only to realize that what sounded good doesn't really taste good as a vape? 6 flavors and about a dozen test batches later, I've come to realize that sweat potato pecan pie is awesome for eating. For vaping, not so much 
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Quoted: You guys ever have a flavor in your head; experiment and nail what you're thinking, only to realize that what sounded good doesn't really taste good as a vape? 6 flavors and about a dozen test batches later, I've come to realize that sweat potato pecan pie is awesome for eating. For vaping, not so much Yeah, food and dessert vapes mostly sound good, taste bad. |
Got batch #2 done this evening. One thing I have learned so far is I will have a pile of 1ml syringes and needles for mixing from now on. Having to clean inbetween each flavor batch to avoid cross contamination is a bitch. 
Anyway, starting to figure out a system and get in a rhythm. This session went much faster than the last. One more time and I will have all my base/single flavor mixes done and then it will just be a waiting game as they steep. Even though I said I was not going start mixing flavors yet I did break and had to mix up a bottle of keef's aqua blast to try out. 
& that's my update for now so tonight I'll just leave you with Jäger's mini flavor lab..... 
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| You make it look easy. I'm going to do the DIY juice soon, just have to read up a little on it. I don't need to stroke out on something I should of learned about. There should be some sticky to help walk people thru, and a few sources of info so people don't get sick. Me myself, feel a bit intimated by it. |
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Quoted: You make it look easy. I'm going to do the DIY juice soon, just have to read up a little on it. I don't need to stroke out on something I should of learned about. There should be some sticky to help walk people thru, and a few sources of info so people don't get sick. Me myself, feel a bit intimated by it. Go to MyFreedomSmokes or WizardLabs Buy your base liquid in the ratio you want and in the nic strength you want... Then just add your flavoring. It can not get easier, nor safer. I use 24mg and I've used 36mg, they're safe, safe, safe. Believe me, I've had it on my hands, it's not strong enough to worry about at that level. I'm assuming you'd want an even lower level, so start out this way so you can grow accustomed and feel at ease. 500ml lasts me a LONG time, and it's like $25, you can buy 1000ml for like $45 50/50 or whatever PG/VG ratio you want. They both sell flavorings too, so pick some up while you're there. I stick with MFS, cheap shipping, fast, and quality. |
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Remember the secret ingredient.. Bad spelling. It's aqva blas. Quoted:
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Even though I said I was not going start mixing flavors yet I did break and had to mix up a bottle of keef's aqua blast to try out.
Remember the secret ingredient.. Bad spelling. It's aqva blas. 
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