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1/17/2012 7:48:46 PM EDT
im going to use:
1 can Black Tower Porter HME
1 can Creamy Brown UME
going to steep
Muntons Crystal 60L Malt
Chocolate Malt
and MAYBE Danstar Nottingham Yeast
my question is what amounts for the grain for 2.5 gallons?
either way, the ratio will be 75% Muntons Crystal and 25 % Chocolate Malt unless some suggests something to go with it(like a hops to throw in at 15-20 before flame out).  the idea is to crutch the flavors that will already be there.
so... wht do u think oh beer gods?
ETA: i bought a bag of corn sugar and im wondering if i can go 1:1 with the "corn syrup solids" booster that the mr beer is
 
1/18/2012 10:19:19 AM EDT
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bueller?
1/18/2012 10:54:21 AM EDT
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Go plug your info into beer calculus and play with the amounts.  There are general rules of thumb for how much adjunct steeping grains you can add.  I think you want to keep their totals to less than 15% of the fermentables.  I could be wrong about that percentage.  Recommendations can be found by googling.
1/18/2012 12:06:20 PM EDT
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Go plug your info into beer calculus and play with the amounts.  There are general rules of thumb for how much adjunct steeping grains you can add.  I think you want to keep their totals to less than 15% of the fermentables.  I could be wrong about that percentage.  Recommendations can be found by googling.



FUU, i didnt realize steeping and partial mash were synonymous





 
1/18/2012 1:22:35 PM EDT
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Go plug your info into beer calculus and play with the amounts.  There are general rules of thumb for how much adjunct steeping grains you can add.  I think you want to keep their totals to less than 15% of the fermentables.  I could be wrong about that percentage.  Recommendations can be found by googling.


FUU, i didnt realize steeping and partial mash were synonymous

 
They're not.  Some adjunct grains don't require a mash.  They just require you to throw them in some water and bring the temperature up to 170.  Then you're done.  Add the malt extract and boil.  



Mashing is required for lots of other grains like 2 row.  Mashing requires you to mix strike water and grain such that the resulting temperature is 148-160.  You then hold it at those temps for an hour.  



What you will want to do, is pick some steeping grains, put them in a strainer, add them to cold water, bring the water to 170, dunk the grains a bit, and discard them.  Now add your malt extract and hops and boil.  Since your using hopped malt extract, you won't want to boil that.  You may even want to consider adding more hops since you seem to have a lot of malt compared to hops.





 
1/18/2012 1:44:45 PM EDT
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Go plug your info into beer calculus and play with the amounts.  There are general rules of thumb for how much adjunct steeping grains you can add.  I think you want to keep their totals to less than 15% of the fermentables.  I could be wrong about that percentage.  Recommendations can be found by googling.


FUU, i didnt realize steeping and partial mash were synonymous

 
They're not.  Some adjunct grains don't require a mash.  They just require you to throw them in some water and bring the temperature up to 170.  Then you're done.  Add the malt extract and boil.  



Mashing is required for lots of other grains like 2 row.  Mashing requires you to mix strike water and grain such that the resulting temperature is 148-160.  You then hold it at those temps for an hour.  



What you will want to do, is pick some steeping grains, put them in a strainer, add them to cold water, bring the water to 170, dunk the grains a bit, and discard them.  Now add your malt extract and hops and boil.  Since your using hopped malt extract, you won't want to boil that.  You may even want to consider adding more hops since you seem to have a lot of malt compared to hops.



 
steep and remove, bring to boil, add extra hops 20ish minutes..maybe half hour before flame out, add extracts.



i realize what the 2 are, i just thought the steeping was simply a "mini-mash" and not tea bagging



i think 1/2-3/4oz of UK fuggles will do it.



so.. with 2lbs 6oz of extract (38oz), i should steep ~1/2lb of grain?  but if the sugars added arent all fermentable, doesnt that change the math to be used? i was thinking of using as much as a full lb of grain.





 
1/26/2012 12:49:20 PM EDT
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Go plug your info into beer calculus and play with the amounts.  There are general rules of thumb for how much adjunct steeping grains you can add.  I think you want to keep their totals to less than 15% of the fermentables.  I could be wrong about that percentage.  Recommendations can be found by googling.



FUU, i didnt realize steeping and partial mash were synonymous


 
They're not.  Some adjunct grains don't require a mash.  They just require you to throw them in some water and bring the temperature up to 170.  Then you're done.  Add the malt extract and boil.  





Mashing is required for lots of other grains like 2 row.  Mashing requires you to mix strike water and grain such that the resulting temperature is 148-160.  You then hold it at those temps for an hour.  





What you will want to do, is pick some steeping grains, put them in a strainer, add them to cold water, bring the water to 170, dunk the grains a bit, and discard them.  Now add your malt extract and hops and boil.  Since your using hopped malt extract, you won't want to boil that.  You may even want to consider adding more hops since you seem to have a lot of malt compared to hops.





 






 
i got the hops  fuggles and kent goldings, 1oz of each





1/2 oz of one about 30 minutes then the other at flame out sound good?  ive been searching for people that have made a similar recipe, but oddly... nothing.  hence all the questions..lol.





would i boil the Creamy Brown since it is unhopped?  i want to make sure i get this all right



heres what i think ive figured out:



19.4 oz HME

19.4 oz UME

4-8 oz Muntons 60L

4-8 oz Chocolate or Pale Chocolate

.5 oz Fuggles

.5 oz UK Goldings



at 16 oz of grain, itd be ~30% of the total but they wouldnt all be fermentable sugar.

i may just use one type of hops and add half oz during the boil and the rest when its turned off.  





 
2/2/2012 5:37:05 PM EDT
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AR-Josh, thanks for the help



OG is about 1.043



 
2/3/2012 4:30:01 AM EDT
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AR-Josh, thanks for the help



OG is about 1.043

 


w00t!  It's beer...HOORAY beer!!!



 
2/3/2012 4:50:44 PM EDT
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I do a mini mash now days. When I do a hybrid brewing session.  Bring the water to about155oF. I dunk the grain bag in the water & put a lid on it.  Let it sit for 30-60min. I then take the bag of grain out. Put it in a colander. Run 2+ cups of boiling water over the grain bag in the colander. Strain the bag a little & your done! Make some bread with the spent grains or add to a compost pile, etc.
2/3/2012 5:25:39 PM EDT
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AR-Josh, thanks for the help





OG is about 1.043


 



w00t!  It's beer...HOORAY beer!!!


 
heres my finalized recipe





http://hopville.com/recipe/1116743/home-brew/creamy-brown-tower-porter#
 
2/3/2012 5:29:38 PM EDT
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for aeration, i used a sterilized whisk and whisked during cooldown then for 10 minutes in the fermenter before adding the yeasties.
 
2/5/2012 9:54:08 AM EDT
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for aeration, i used a sterilized whisk and whisked during cooldown then for 10 minutes in the fermenter before adding the yeasties.  


That's what I do.  I take one of the whisks from the kitchen and whip the hell out of the wort before pitching the yeast.



 
2/5/2012 10:16:33 AM EDT
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for aeration, i used a sterilized whisk and whisked during cooldown then for 10 minutes in the fermenter before adding the yeasties.  


That's what I do.  I take one of the whisks from the kitchen and whip the hell out of the wort before pitching the yeast.

 


by the way, that nottingham ale yeast is some POWERFUL stuff.  



 
2/5/2012 10:17:50 AM EDT
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I do a mini mash now days. When I do a hybrid brewing session.  Bring the water to about155oF. I dunk the grain bag in the water & put a lid on it.  Let it sit for 30-60min. I then take the bag of grain out. Put it in a colander. Run 2+ cups of boiling water over the grain bag in the colander. Strain the bag a little & your done! Make some bread with the spent grains or add to a compost pile, etc.


damn.. never thought of the bread making idea.  thats genius really..



 
2/6/2012 10:07:40 AM EDT
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I do a mini mash now days. When I do a hybrid brewing session.  Bring the water to about155oF. I dunk the grain bag in the water & put a lid on it.  Let it sit for 30-60min. I then take the bag of grain out. Put it in a colander. Run 2+ cups of boiling water over the grain bag in the colander. Strain the bag a little & your done! Make some bread with the spent grains or add to a compost pile, etc.

damn.. never thought of the bread making idea.  thats genius really..
 


My friend does pizza crusts with them. I think he adds about a cup of grain to the rest of the crust mix.

It's very good.
2/6/2012 6:08:04 PM EDT
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I do a mini mash now days. When I do a hybrid brewing session.  Bring the water to about155oF. I dunk the grain bag in the water & put a lid on it.  Let it sit for 30-60min. I then take the bag of grain out. Put it in a colander. Run 2+ cups of boiling water over the grain bag in the colander. Strain the bag a little & your done! Make some bread with the spent grains or add to a compost pile, etc.

damn.. never thought of the bread making idea.  thats genius really..
 


My friend does pizza crusts with them. I think he adds about a cup of grain to the rest of the crust mix.

It's very good.

Allot of brewpubs us spent grains in Bread.
2/26/2012 8:25:43 PM EDT
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Bottled!  i tasted a small amount.  it seemed "hot"