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4/1/2012 6:26:10 PM EDT
Cross posted from GD:

I'm studying for a physics exam and cannot make my numbers match the answers for this study problem:



What I THINK I'm supposed to do is find the magnetic flux ( =magnetic field times area enclosed), use EMF (voltage) = - (derivative of magnetic flux with respect to time), then take that EMF value and plug it in to V=IR and solve for I. However, I keep getting 1.2499E-6 V, giving 6.249E-7 A for t=1.0E-3 seconds.

The given answers are (in order): 0.02 A, 0.017 A, and 0 A.

Am I using the wrong formulas? Taking the derivative incorrectly? Or are my teachers just failing at this?
4/2/2012 7:17:25 AM EDT
[#1]
The magnetic field is not constant.

The derivative of the field strength determines the voltage at each of the times specified.

How fast is the magnetic field changing at the specified times?


4/3/2012 12:32:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Emf = -d phi / dt

B*area = phi

area = constant,

d phi / dt = [ -Bo * a * exp(-a*t) ] * area ––––––––––––> plug in givens like time here

V = IR

ETA: this gave me the right answer for the first given time value. do unit analysis. use meters when determining area of coil.
4/5/2012 10:18:05 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Emf = -d phi / dt

B*area = phi

area = constant,

d phi / dt = [ -Bo * a * exp(-a*t) ] * area ––––––––––––> plug in givens like time here

V = IR

ETA: this gave me the right answer for the first given time value. do unit analysis. use meters when determining area of coil.


Teach a man to fish...
4/18/2012 2:07:50 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Emf = -d phi / dt

B*area = phi

area = constant,

d phi / dt = [ -Bo * a * exp(-a*t) ] * area ––––––––––––> plug in givens like time here

V = IR

ETA: this gave me the right answer for the first given time value. do unit analysis. use meters when determining area of coil.


Teach a man to fish...


i'm not a teacher, just a wannabe nerd with a huge chip on my shoulder

4/18/2012 6:26:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Emf = -d phi / dt

B*area = phi

area = constant,

d phi / dt = [ -Bo * a * exp(-a*t) ] * area ––––––––––––> plug in givens like time here

V = IR

ETA: this gave me the right answer for the first given time value. do unit analysis. use meters when determining area of coil.


Teach a man to fish...


i'm not a teacher, just a wannabe nerd with a huge chip on my shoulder



Sorry for your unhappy life.

It must be hell to be you.

5/6/2012 8:40:31 PM EDT
[#6]
I forgot about this thread, but not that stupid problem.

My mistake was that I was seeing the "200s^-1" as 1/200s (or 0.005s^-1), not 200/1s, which would make the units cancel and the function actually work. So, as it turns out, I have more trouble with basic algebra than I do with calculus.  
5/12/2012 11:14:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Emf = -d phi / dt

B*area = phi

area = constant,

d phi / dt = [ -Bo * a * exp(-a*t) ] * area ––––––––––––> plug in givens like time here

V = IR

ETA: this gave me the right answer for the first given time value. do unit analysis. use meters when determining area of coil.


Teach a man to fish...


i'm not a teacher, just a wannabe nerd with a huge chip on my shoulder



Sorry for your unhappy life.

It must be hell to be you.



thanks brah
9/7/2012 4:30:31 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I forgot about this thread, but not that stupid problem.

My mistake was that I was seeing the "200s^-1" as 1/200s (or 0.005s^-1), not 200/1s, which would make the units cancel and the function actually work. So, as it turns out, I have more trouble with basic algebra than I do with calculus.  


that's where it usually get ya....