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10/20/2019 8:07:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
Yes I know.

You can talk here.
You are having your first initial meeting correct?  You have never met with anyone from the lodge before, correct?

The Raising is after the 3rd degree....  You need to be voted in first.
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No, this is not my first initial meeting. My first meeting, I was invited to a Grand meeting, by my sponsor. I turned in my application and paid fees that day. From there I went through background and an interview at my home.

Had another meeting after that and also met with some other brothers who have their EA and FC. I speak with them daily and we are together about 3 times a week now.

I was told to be prepared, by the WM,  for this Saturday... as they don’t normally do all the degrees at once but they want me to catch up with the other two so that we can all be raised at the same time.

I’m seeking clarity on what I was told from you all now.
10/20/2019 8:15:23 PM EDT
[#2]
Also at the Grand meeting I stayed outside, and helped  with doing some odds, ends and etc until they were done meeting and then they all came out and we spent some time together
10/20/2019 8:18:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:
Also at the Grand meeting I stayed outside, and helped  with doing some odds, ends and etc until they were done meeting and then they all came out and we spent some time together
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You are correct. It sounds like they are doing a one day class deal. This is where you receive all 3 degrees in one day. Not all states offer this and not everyone likes the one day class deal, but one of the best Masons that I know (our secretary) was a one day class raising.

Best of luck my friend.
10/20/2019 8:23:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:
Also at the Grand meeting I stayed outside, and helped  with doing some odds, ends and etc until they were done meeting and then they all came out and we spent some time together
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What jurisdiction are you joining?
10/20/2019 8:24:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Garyindiane:

You are correct. It sounds like they are doing a one day class deal. This is where you receive all 3 degrees in one day. Not all states offer this and not everyone likes the one day class deal, but one of the best Masons that I know (our secretary) was a one day class raising.

Best of luck my friend.
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They have their place.  Looking at 15 years of data retention is identical for those raised in a one day class vs. the traditional method.

We have a one day class scheduled this Saturday.  I think we are up to 25 candidates.
10/20/2019 8:25:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Garyindiane:

You are correct. It sounds like they are doing a one day class deal. This is where you receive all 3 degrees in one day. Not all states offer this and not everyone likes the one day class deal, but one of the best Masons that I know (our secretary) was a one day class raising.

Best of luck my friend.
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Thank you, my heart rate went up for a second. I was waiting on you all’s response before I called my sponsor with more questions lol.

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10/20/2019 8:56:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:

What jurisdiction are you joining?
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York Rite of Georgia
10/20/2019 9:04:07 PM EDT
[#8]
You didn't say up front that you were doing a one day class.

Hopefully all goes well.
10/20/2019 9:15:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
You didn't say up front that you were doing a one day class.

Hopefully all goes well.
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Thank you.
10/20/2019 9:15:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Congratulations, and the very best of luck to you.
"Omnia mei donna Deo"
10/20/2019 9:54:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Thank you
10/26/2019 12:14:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Our date changed to 11/16
1/5/2020 7:54:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Actually was interested once. Had business dealings with a member and he asked me if I was interested at the time. A few business dealings later I discovered he was multiplying my prices WAY beyond gouging. Adding that portion to my section of the work involved(making my end look bad). Making 4-5 times the price I gave him. And I was leaving enough for him to make money on me while keeping it fair to all involved. Greed. Bad taste. Not saying all are bad. Just my experience to date.
I can say more but I won't.
1/5/2020 8:42:34 PM EDT
[#14]
Thanks for sharing.
1/5/2020 10:29:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:

York Rite of Georgia
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i am confused now...

you must be a MM to join the YR and last i knew GA did not offer one day classes?
Easy, tiger.
Between his background and his porn collection, TBS is not to be questioned when it comes to bleeding, vomiting, or pooping.... BUCC_Guy
1/6/2020 12:13:32 AM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

i am confused now...

you must be a MM to join the YR and last i knew GA did not offer one day classes?
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I had to go back and re-read everything. I'm lost as well. You have not yet been raised to the sublime degree of a MM. So you are taking a "one day class" for the York Rite degrees, or a one day class to become a MM in Blue Lodge?
I've heard of an all day degree for the degrees in the York Rite, but I have never heard of a one day class for the first three degrees in Masonry. Seems illogical.
One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. MLK
1/6/2020 7:39:23 AM EDT
[#17]
What's really confusing is every state has different regulations.
...
Like for instance here in Pennsylvania we do one day classes depending on The Grandmaster. the current Grandmaster does not like one day classes therefore he's not going to allow any while he's in charge.

Personally I believe that the one day classes offered an opportunity to get a guy in the lodge that wouldn't join because his work schedule wouldn't allow it or his family schedule wouldn't allow it, but he has one night a month that he can come to lodge.

This past Year's Master Of Our Lodge went through the one-day class about 8 years ago.

If we examine the data we have collected our retention rate is almost exactly the same within 1% between one day class and traditional
1/6/2020 9:04:14 AM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
What's really confusing is every state has different regulations.
...
Like for instance here in Pennsylvania we do one day classes depending on The Grandmaster. the current Grandmaster does not like one day classes therefore he's not going to allow any while he's in charge.

Personally I believe that the one day classes offered an opportunity to get a guy in the lodge that wouldn't join because his work schedule wouldn't allow it or his family schedule wouldn't allow it, but he has one night a month that he can come to lodge.

This past Year's Master Of Our Lodge went through the one-day class about 8 years ago.

If we examine the data we have collected our retention rate is almost exactly the same within 1% between one day class and traditional
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Our Secretary came in in 2011 as a one day class Mason.
He is absolutely amazing! I don't think that I have meet any other Mason with the amount of knowledge he has.
1/6/2020 10:13:53 AM EDT
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I've learned more in this thread than I have knowing a few masons for years.  One thing that this thread has not really touched on is politics and it's place/influence on the brotherhood.  Just based upon the values and core beliefs, it would seem that Masonry by it's nature is a conservative institution.  Unfortunately in the world we live in, everything seems to be politicized, is that true for Masons?  Does politics play a part?

I'm not asking to be a troublemaker but out of genuine interest.  The more I learn and understand, the closer I become to taking that first step.  Heavy politics would keep me from seeking more....
1/6/2020 10:20:21 AM EDT
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politics and religion are 2 things that are 100% off limits in a masonic lodges. a mans beliefs are his and his alone. Discussing such things disrupts harmony between brothers and generates ill will.

that said.... both tend to get debated a good bit while at refreshment outside the lodge. One key thing is that the discussion in my experience have always been positive and left outside the door when lodge is in session. There is no liberal or conservative in the lodge... only your brother. Masonry takes no formal stance on matter of politics. It only encourages the mason to be involved and do their civic duties.
Easy, tiger.
Between his background and his porn collection, TBS is not to be questioned when it comes to bleeding, vomiting, or pooping.... BUCC_Guy
1/6/2020 10:23:25 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
politics and religion are 2 things that are 100% off limits in a masonic lodges. a mans beliefs are his and his alone. Discussing such things disrupts harmony between brothers and generates ill will.

that said.... both tend to get debated a good bit while at refreshment outside the lodge. One key thing is that the discussion in my experience have always been positive and left outside the door when lodge is in session. There is no liberal or conservative in the lodge... only your brother. Masonry takes no formal stance on matter of politics. It only encourages the mason to be involved and do their civic duties.
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Thank you for the insight
1/6/2020 5:37:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rarecat:
I've learned more in this thread than I have knowing a few masons for years.  One thing that this thread has not really touched on is politics and it's place/influence on the brotherhood.  Just based upon the values and core beliefs, it would seem that Masonry by it's nature is a conservative institution.  Unfortunately in the world we live in, everything seems to be politicized, is that true for Masons?  Does politics play a part?

I'm not asking to be a troublemaker but out of genuine interest.  The more I learn and understand, the closer I become to taking that first step.  Heavy politics would keep me from seeking more....
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We have members from both ends of the political spectrum and everywhere in between.  As TBS mentioned, it is never discussed in lodge.  In the parking lot after a meeting, sure.  I'm sure it has caused discord between members but i have never personally seen it become an issue.
1/6/2020 5:37:48 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
What's really confusing is every state has different regulations.
...
Like for instance here in Pennsylvania we do one day classes depending on The Grandmaster. the current Grandmaster does not like one day classes therefore he's not going to allow any while he's in charge.

Personally I believe that the one day classes offered an opportunity to get a guy in the lodge that wouldn't join because his work schedule wouldn't allow it or his family schedule wouldn't allow it, but he has one night a month that he can come to lodge.

This past Year's Master Of Our Lodge went through the one-day class about 8 years ago.

If we examine the data we have collected our retention rate is almost exactly the same within 1% between one day class and traditional
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Same for us here.
3/24/2020 6:14:26 PM EDT
[#24]
It was planned that I was to be raised to MM last Saturday, but with the Covid outbreak, everything has been put on hold.

Has this effected anyone else?
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both.
3/24/2020 6:25:47 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By OAK667:
It was planned that I was to be raised to MM last Saturday, but with the Covid outbreak, everything has been put on hold.

Has this effected anyone else?
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Yes.

All Masonic activities in PA are closed.
Shrine,  Scottish Rite, York Rite, Eastern Star..... all of it.

No practices or school and no hall rentals
3/24/2020 7:13:35 PM EDT
[#26]
No Masonic events and activities in Wisconsin.
When you were born, you cried while the world rejoiced. Live your life in such a way that when you die, the world cries as you rejoice.
3/24/2020 8:50:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OAK667:
It was planned that I was to be raised to MM last Saturday, but with the Covid outbreak, everything has been put on hold.

Has this effected anyone else?
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GM has closed all Masonic buildings in Utah until further notice.
5/24/2020 11:49:22 AM EDT
[#28]
This is my year in the south, between my work schedule, and the boogy virus, I only made it to 3 lodge meetings.
The up side is nobody has to endure my cooking.
At this point, I'd be surprised if we have any meetings before the end of the year.
One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. MLK
5/24/2020 8:04:07 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By OAK667:
It was planned that I was to be raised to MM last Saturday, but with the Covid outbreak, everything has been put on hold.

Has this effected anyone else?
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Absolutely.  My lodge has 6 EA's including myself pretty much waiting for our second.  Was going to try and make MM this year but that looks dang near impossible now.
1/17/2021 6:05:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:


i am confused now...

you must be a MM to join the YR and last i knew GA did not offer one day classes?
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I was all over the place, when asking these questions over a year ago. With changes and Covid slowing/stopping a lot of meetings. I was finally raised yesterday.

Going back reading my old post, I smile. I had no clue what I was talking about or how to even answer properly, what y’all were asking me.
1/17/2021 6:21:05 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:

I was all over the place, when asking these questions over a year ago. With changes and Covid slowing/stopping a lot of meetings. I was finally raised yesterday.

Going back reading my old post, I smile. I had no clue what I was talking about or how to even answer properly, what y'all were asking me.
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:


i am confused now...

you must be a MM to join the YR and last i knew GA did not offer one day classes?

I was all over the place, when asking these questions over a year ago. With changes and Covid slowing/stopping a lot of meetings. I was finally raised yesterday.

Going back reading my old post, I smile. I had no clue what I was talking about or how to even answer properly, what y'all were asking me.
Congratulations.

Yeah you did sound confused.
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1/17/2021 6:27:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
Congratulations.

Yeah you did sound confused.
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Yes I did, lol

Thanks Brother.

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