Posted: 1/26/2009 7:05:22 PM EDT
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Obviously 22lr is the easiest round to buy, store and carry in large qualities; but is it enough to stop a zombie?
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i once emailed O_P to see if he would do a box o' truth test on this. iirc i suggested several zombie analogs, however O_P responded that he'd be gald to do the test and supply the ammo, if i'd supply the zombie  ...
if i had the damn zombie i could do the fucking .22 VS. zombie test myself  ...
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I fI was well fortified and on a roof I would use a .22. Even if it took a couple shots, your protected.
If Im on the ground with them I want something that will cause enough damage that there is no question if its enough power. 7.62x39 for me if Im on the move with the shamblers behind me. |
| If you can consistently put it in the eye socket it should do the trick. I have a Marlin .22 Bolt Action that, when I used to shoot a lot more, I could easily and repeatedly hit targets that size from 50 to 75 yards. I don't know how well .22LR penetrates skull at distance. I know it will go almost all the way through the brain in a straight line when the muzzle of the pistol is pressed against the forehead. I would think if it hit it straight enough it should penetrate skull but I don't know how reliably. |
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I fI was well fortified and on a roof I would use a .22. Even if it took a couple shots, your protected. If Im on the ground with them I want something that will cause enough damage that there is no question if its enough power. 7.62x39 for me if Im on the move with the shamblers behind me. I agree. If you're protected, use the .22 as it's cheap and relaively quiet when shot from a rifle. Save the larger caliber for when you need them to go down the first time. A .22 shot to the human head at point black range tends to bounce around inside the skull and leaves the poor guy moaning and flopping around for a while.  It could just make the zombie irritated if he took one .22 to the head. I imagine you'd need more than one round of .22 on a daggon zombie to put it down. MHO.
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Quoted: Quoted: I fI was well fortified and on a roof I would use a .22. Even if it took a couple shots, your protected. If Im on the ground with them I want something that will cause enough damage that there is no question if its enough power. 7.62x39 for me if Im on the move with the shamblers behind me. I agree. If you're protected, use the .22 as it's cheap and relaively quiet when shot from a rifle. Save the larger caliber for when you need them to go down the first time. A .22 shot to the human head at point black range tends to bounce around inside the skull and leaves the poor guy moaning and flopping around for a while. It could just make the zombie irritated if he took one .22 to the head. I imagine you'd need more than one round of .22 on a daggon zombie to put it down. MHO.Please don't... |
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I fI was well fortified and on a roof I would use a .22. Even if it took a couple shots, your protected. If Im on the ground with them I want something that will cause enough damage that there is no question if its enough power. 7.62x39 for me if Im on the move with the shamblers behind me. I agree. If you're protected, use the .22 as it's cheap and relaively quiet when shot from a rifle. Save the larger caliber for when you need them to go down the first time. A .22 shot to the human head at point black range tends to bounce around inside the skull and leaves the poor guy moaning and flopping around for a while. It could just make the zombie irritated if he took one .22 to the head. I imagine you'd need more than one round of .22 on a daggon zombie to put it down. MHO.
Please don't... Don't worry, I wouldn't! A guy I work with has seen it happen- well, moments after it happened anyway. The big stuff works the first time. Nasty. |
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I am pretty sure .22LR is going to bounce off skull most of the time. I remember a news story from last year about a guy that hit an intruder in the forehead with .22LR from a few feet away. It bounced right off the bad guy. However the BG did crap himself and start crying for his life. :) I'll look for the story.
Can anyone think of a test medium that would be simulate skull? I'll go out to the range and have at it. |
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I fI was well fortified and on a roof I would use a .22. Even if it took a couple shots, your protected. If Im on the ground with them I want something that will cause enough damage that there is no question if its enough power. 7.62x39 for me if Im on the move with the shamblers behind me. I agree. If you're protected, use the .22 as it's cheap and relaively quiet when shot from a rifle. Save the larger caliber for when you need them to go down the first time. A .22 shot to the human head at point black range tends to bounce around inside the skull and leaves the poor guy moaning and flopping around for a while. It could just make the zombie irritated if he took one .22 to the head. I imagine you'd need more than one round of .22 on a daggon zombie to put it down. MHO.
Please don't... teh .22 will go in your foot and out your shoulder......duh. 
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I am pretty sure .22LR is going to bounce off skull most of the time. I remember a news story from last year about a guy that hit an intruder in the forehead with .22LR from a few feet away. It bounced right off the bad guy. However the BG did crap himself and start crying for his life. :) I'll look for the story. Can anyone think of a test medium that would be simulate skull? I'll go out to the range and have at it. get a pig head from a butcher or store |
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I am pretty sure .22LR is going to bounce off skull most of the time. I remember a news story from last year about a guy that hit an intruder in the forehead with .22LR from a few feet away. It bounced right off the bad guy. However the BG did crap himself and start crying for his life. :) I'll look for the story. Can anyone think of a test medium that would be simulate skull? I'll go out to the range and have at it. pig flesh is a great human flesh analog(many from mythbusters on have used it as an analog in "scientific" expieriments), but i dunno about skull thickness though... hey, i got it. i can kill two birls with one stone or rather solve two problems at once... i say it's time we embrace our new president whom wants to "protect the second amendment" and help him solve some of the nations problems while he "protects our rights". the messiah(Nobama) wants to close down gitmo but doesen't know what to do with the terrorist prisoners. we want to test the effects of a .22lr round on human skulls. i think we may have a winning idea, just saying... K. |
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Having experience with people who have been shot in the head with 22lr's, I wouldn't use it to shoot a zombie. The 22lr just doesn't have the power to consistantly penitrate the human skull. Often time it bounces off the skull, creating a large flesh wound but not damaging the brain. Hits to the temple area, brain stem and eyeballs will enter the skull and destroy the brain, but I don't want to have to aim that carefully when the zombie hoards are closing in on me.
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Quoted: Not in the conventional sense, but they'll eat 'em. Zombies don't take hostages This should be entitled Zombies VS .22LR. Anyone see the SBR Calico? http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:wdarqPFiiL0SoM:http://lib.irismedia.org/sait/guns/smg/calico100-22.jpg |
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Im thinking that I could use the 10/22 from say off my roof shooting down on the zombie mob that are milling around trying to figure how they can get to my oversized mellon. They arent going anywhere and are all crunched up so I should be able to plink zombie heads until they crack.
I would still like to see a pig head demo done. Someone get on that. Pics or it didnt happen |
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yeah, and it's a great idea, until one of the shambeling undead stumbles around and against the structure you're trying to fortify inside of and lights it on fire too... ETA: not calling you a dumbass, hell it's not even my poster, but i thought this was appropriate enough... 
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I posted elsewhere that a 22lr suppressed platform can be used for tactical covert missions...where you want to penetrate a hoard without detection and even maybe rescue some hot hostages like this one:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd57/godseeker83/ALEIDANUEZ-sexy.jpg ...and if you get bitten you can always eat her.  You could always just say you were bitten. 
BTW - CCI Stingers FTW! |
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22lr will do the trick. It's been used by Mil and LEO for quite a while. Almost everyone has magic bullet story (check link for resent 9mm from mp5), doesn't mean that it won't work 99% of the time. Hell, everyone loves the 12ga, but I know of a guy that lived after unloading 00 into his brain housing group. I know more people that have died or been seriously injured from .22lr than all other calibers combined. Add that to the fact that it can bounce and travel around the body & the Z will go down.
http://www.ohio.com/news/37986589.html |
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There was a guy on the snipers hide forums who did somewhat of a test using a .22lr.
He bought a turkey from the store, brought it out to where he shoots and shot it up with a .22. He put the turkey, thawed out, at 250 and 300 yards wrapped 3 layers of clothes over it and took aim. From 250 yds the .22 went all the way through the turkey. Not only did it go through the 3 layers of clothes and the turkey, but on the back side of the turkey he had the loose bits of the clothes folded up and taped to keep it all neat. So in essence the round, from 250yds out, went through 3 layers of clothes, through the turkey, 6 layers of clothes(he folded the left over clothes up in the back which equated to 6 layers of clothes and put duct tape on it to keep it from coming loose) on the back and a layer of duct tape. After he finished shooting he opened up the turkey to dig the bullets that did not go through out of it so he could leave it for the animals. He noticed the middle of the turkey was still somewhat frozen. Now I am not sure where he was shooting, or how long he thawed the turkey out but if it still was slightly frozen when he was done, means it had to be even more frozen when he was shooting. A .22 coming out of a 18-20" barrel is ALOT different than a .22 coming out of a 4" barrel pistol. |
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I am pretty sure .22LR is going to bounce off skull most of the time. I remember a news story from last year about a guy that hit an intruder in the forehead with .22LR from a few feet away. It bounced right off the bad guy. However the BG did crap himself and start crying for his life. :) I'll look for the story. Can anyone think of a test medium that would be simulate skull? I'll go out to the range and have at it. Hm, must have been a fluke. I was a medic for several years and saw more than one person die from 22lr to the head. Pretty nasty. |
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I am pretty sure .22LR is going to bounce off skull most of the time. I remember a news story from last year about a guy that hit an intruder in the forehead with .22LR from a few feet away. It bounced right off the bad guy. However the BG did crap himself and start crying for his life. :) I'll look for the story. Can anyone think of a test medium that would be simulate skull? I'll go out to the range and have at it. Hm, must have been a fluke. I was a medic for several years and saw more than one person die from 22lr to the head. Pretty nasty. It doesn't surprise me since there is a huge number of self defense cases where a .22 cal handgun or rifle has been used. Probably even more than any other "hot shot" commando caliber.
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IMO .22LR is the ideal zombie round, and a marling model 60 is the ideal zombie rifle (Or lever or bolt actions .22lr in that order)
Head shot will kill a zombie, it's semi auto if you need it, very good accuracy, flawless function, ammo is very accesable. There is nothing else that would be ideal. Also, the ideal side arm is a .357 magnum wheel gun. When it gets to the point where you need to use your side our, you will have an iminant zombie attack, and possibly contact. You need something large enough that it will do damage center mass or head and completely stop the foreward progress, and you absolutely cannot have it fail. It is nearly impossible for a wheel gun to fail. |
| I argue for the 10/22. My reasons are many. 1st they are very popular, several people own them and common stores (bi-mart & wal-mart) stock their parts. Accessories are abundant, and Hi cap mags cap be found all over for cheap. You can trick one out to be a Bull-pup run and gun or build a killer shooter capable of sub-MOA shooting (sometimes both) or whatever your heart desires. Mechanics of the rifle are easy to understand and you can repair and/or make parts you need. I've got a few more (like cheap), JMO 10/22 is what I'd bring. A guy on the 10/22 forum did a pretty cool take-down pack... Hard to argue against it. |
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I really like my 10/22 especially with the silencer on it but a great 22 for zombies would be an AR or M-16 lower with a TI AM-15 upper.
AM-15 upper Second vid Even in semi it would be awesome due to the capacity. According to their page "Delivery of semi-auto units has been temporarily postponed while we divert our time and resources to delivering the OPEN BOLT FULL AUTO units." so hold tight if you want one for your AR. |
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/ Ultimate zombie gun, lol HOW DO I GET ONE!!!??? If you have an M-16 go ahead and put in an order. Linkeroo If you want to slap it on an AR lower receiver you'll have to wait until they're producing that version. Hopefully they'll be available before the Zombpocalypse. |
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Don't you need a specific license for an automatic rifle? For full auto you're talking about items regulated by the NFA (National Firearms Act). We have a technical forum for these items Here Machineguns, silencers, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, AOWs ("any other weapon" like pen guns and pistols with vertical foregrips), and destructive devices are reulated under this act and require registration not a license (each weapon requires its own registration...one license doesn't let you buy as many as you want). States may have their own laws regarding these items. One of the places they are available for sale is here: Subguns |