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3/2/2008 1:53:34 PM EDT
Let's get more discussions going here, we been posting less here!

Post favorite and what brand you prefer.

Me:



12ax7 ARS (Chinese)

I found that the Russian ones were too boomy and the US ones only had great mids going for them. The Chinese ones were the most satisfying by far. These things take so long to burn out and give such great tone.
3/2/2008 2:11:57 PM EDT
[#1]
Whatever sounds warm and clean - the 12ax7 - fapworthy warm mids.


3/2/2008 2:15:10 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Whatever sounds warm and clean - the 12ax7 - fapworthy warm mids.



ECC83s then I assume?
3/2/2008 2:24:09 PM EDT
[#3]
I have 12AX7s in my Fender.  I like them.
3/2/2008 2:24:37 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I have 12AX7s in my Fender.  I like them.


Alllriiiight, bright brothers

I love the brightness of those babies.
3/2/2008 3:05:54 PM EDT
[#5]
12ax7's or 12au7's if I want a little less gain.

I don't mind Sovtek tubes, but I like JJ's or Tung Sol the best.
3/2/2008 3:10:51 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
12ax7's or 12au7's if I want a little less gain.

I don't mind Sovtek tubes, but I like JJ's or Tung Sol the best.


I love JJ's in fact I have one in my V1 socket of my +3 CAE preamp

3/2/2008 5:42:41 PM EDT
[#7]
I think every tube amp I've had has had 12AX7s.

I'm curious what the others sound like.
3/3/2008 5:36:49 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I think every tube amp I've had has had 12AX7s.

I'm curious what the others sound like.



The thing you will notice most quickly is the tubes other than the 12AX7 & 12BH7 are all lower in gain then the 12AX/BH7.  This is why you usually won't see them in amps other than those designed for clean tone or older Fenders.  With as much gain as is dumped in the typical amp between stages to prevent blocking distortion (bad distortion that is uncontrollable and sounds like crap) the other low gain tubes could be used to provide high gain tones but the commercial paradigm is to use the 12AX7.  There have been a few experiments on the AX84.com site to get high gain tone out of low gain tubes but I have to admit I never followed the results of the experiments.

The 12BH7 is a high gain tube with higher current capability that the 12AX7.  There is a mod to the P1 Extreme project on AX84.com that uses two tubes to get a Marshal Plexi sound, a 12BH7 and El34.  You won't find the 12BH7 used in any new amps because they are not currently produced AFAIK.  No manufacturer would want to rely on the NOS tube market.

The tubes I use in my preamps are a supply of NOS Raytheon 12AX7s salvaged from an old tube organ kit that was never completed.  (7-8 tubes per tone generator, 12 tones)
3/3/2008 7:13:15 AM EDT
[#9]
Bass guy here.
All 12ax7's in my current amps, which are both Mesas.
JJ/Tesla in my M-Pulse 600, and stock Mesas in my Walkabout.
I've also used Tung-Sols in the 600 with happy ears. The stock Mesas have made me happiest in the Walkabout.
3/3/2008 7:32:26 AM EDT
[#10]
I have JJ ECC83s in my Valve Junior. They seem to be an improvement tonally over the stock 12AX7s, which I think are Sovteks.
3/4/2008 7:05:58 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I have JJ ECC83s in my Valve Junior. They seem to be an improvement tonally over the stock 12AX7s, which I think are Sovteks.


JJ ECC83s in my Univalve here,  though I need to try out this 803S from JJ as well.