Posted: 1/8/2009 7:46:07 AM EDT
| I have heard that HDMI has a larger bandwidth but am I losing something using the optical from my BR player to my stereo? It doesn't have HDMI switching but I love the stereo and don't see a point in upgrading it at this point. So school me on if I even need to at this point. |
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The Tos optical connector doesn't have the bandwidth to provide for higher level audio codecs. It's optical (which in and of itself is really fast), but the protocol it runs is slow.
HDMI was designed for both high video and audio bit rates. Plus that crappy copy protection. 
The only way to get Dolby HD or the high end DTS codecs to work is to connect your blu-ray player via HDMI. If you are using DVD's, don't worry about it. If you are watching HD cable or satellite, don't worry about it. |
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The Tos optical connector doesn't have the bandwidth to provide for higher level audio codecs. It's optical (which in and of itself is really fast), but the protocol it runs is slow. HDMI was designed for both high video and audio bit rates. Plus that crappy copy protection. 
The only way to get Dolby HD or the high end DTS codecs to work is to connect your blu-ray player via HDMI. If you are using DVD's, don't worry about it. If you are watching HD cable or satellite, don't worry about it. Well that blows. I love my amp. I guess no Dolby HD for me for awhile. I just can't justify throwing out a 1k$ box which handles most stuff just fine. Thanks for the info. |
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The Tos optical connector doesn't have the bandwidth to provide for higher level audio codecs. It's optical (which in and of itself is really fast), but the protocol it runs is slow. HDMI was designed for both high video and audio bit rates. Plus that crappy copy protection.
The only way to get Dolby HD or the high end DTS codecs to work is to connect your blu-ray player via HDMI. If you are using DVD's, don't worry about it. If you are watching HD cable or satellite, don't worry about it. Well that blows. I love my amp. I guess no Dolby HD for me for awhile. I just can't justify throwing out a 1k$ box which handles most stuff just fine. Thanks for the info. $300 or so gets you where you want to be. Onkyo 606, Sony 720, and Yammy 683 will all decode Dolby True HD and DTS HD-MA and they are all 7.1 IIRC. Life is too short to watch Blus w/ lossy audio. |
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The Tos optical connector doesn't have the bandwidth to provide for higher level audio codecs. It's optical (which in and of itself is really fast), but the protocol it runs is slow. HDMI was designed for both high video and audio bit rates. Plus that crappy copy protection.
The only way to get Dolby HD or the high end DTS codecs to work is to connect your blu-ray player via HDMI. If you are using DVD's, don't worry about it. If you are watching HD cable or satellite, don't worry about it. Well that blows. I love my amp. I guess no Dolby HD for me for awhile. I just can't justify throwing out a 1k$ box which handles most stuff just fine. Thanks for the info. $300 or so gets you where you want to be. Onkyo 606, Sony 720, and Yammy 683 will all decode Dolby True HD and DTS HD-MA and they are all 7.1 IIRC. Life is too short to watch Blus w/ lossy audio. Yeah but I literally have this setup though at a better price. VR3 fronts and the AVR7120 receiver. http://www.hometheatermag.com/completesystems/705boston/ It sounds amazing. Can I get a new reciever and just use my BA as a stand alone amp then? I gotta do some research on this. I used to have an Onkyo 676 when it was the latest greatest. It looks like the 606 only weighs 25lbs Seems kind of light to make decent power. ETA: bad hotlink |
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When I first fired up a blu-ray with my new onkyo 606 (HDMI), I was suprised how good it sounded. But when I really noticed the difference was when I put in the same movie in DVD and listened to some of the action scenes (transformers).
The new audio formats are phenomenal. sixth ave electronics is where I got my Onkyo 606 for 334 shipped. GREAT investment. |
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When I first fired up a blu-ray with my new onkyo 606 (HDMI), I was suprised how good it sounded. But when I really noticed the difference was when I put in the same movie in DVD and listened to some of the action scenes (transformers). The new audio formats are phenomenal. sixth ave electronics is where I got my Onkyo 606 for 334 shipped. GREAT investment. I just don't see those putting out the power to really drive my VR3's. I think I'm going to see if I can find a pre-amp to decode then use my current setup to push the speakers. How does your 606 do for music? |
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WOOHOO Looks like I might just need to upgrade from my PS3 BR player and I'm GTG. My receiver does handle 7.1 analog inputs.
http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/How_To_Set_up_a_Blu-ray_Player_Using_Multi-Channel_Analog_Outputs_And_Why.shtml |
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The Tos optical connector doesn't have the bandwidth to provide for higher level audio codecs. It's optical (which in and of itself is really fast), but the protocol it runs is slow. HDMI was designed for both high video and audio bit rates. Plus that crappy copy protection.
The only way to get Dolby HD or the high end DTS codecs to work is to connect your blu-ray player via HDMI. If you are using DVD's, don't worry about it. If you are watching HD cable or satellite, don't worry about it. Well that blows. I love my amp. I guess no Dolby HD for me for awhile. I just can't justify throwing out a 1k$ box which handles most stuff just fine. Thanks for the info. $300 or so gets you where you want to be. Onkyo 606, Sony 720, and Yammy 683 will all decode Dolby True HD and DTS HD-MA and they are all 7.1 IIRC. Life is too short to watch Blus w/ lossy audio. +1 You can't go wrong w/ Onkyo! |
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The Tos optical connector doesn't have the bandwidth to provide for higher level audio codecs. It's optical (which in and of itself is really fast), but the protocol it runs is slow. HDMI was designed for both high video and audio bit rates. Plus that crappy copy protection.
The only way to get Dolby HD or the high end DTS codecs to work is to connect your blu-ray player via HDMI. If you are using DVD's, don't worry about it. If you are watching HD cable or satellite, don't worry about it. Well that blows. I love my amp. I guess no Dolby HD for me for awhile. I just can't justify throwing out a 1k$ box which handles most stuff just fine. Thanks for the info. $300 or so gets you where you want to be. Onkyo 606, Sony 720, and Yammy 683 will all decode Dolby True HD and DTS HD-MA and they are all 7.1 IIRC. Life is too short to watch Blus w/ lossy audio. +1 You can't go wrong w/ Onkyo! I wouldn't disagree. My ex-wife got my old 676 because she didn't have a receiver. However I don't consider any of those models to be in the same class audio quality wise as my current receiver. It is the same thing as a Sherwood R-965. I actually picked up a panasonic BD55K player today and hooked it up to current receiver and it sounds amazing. I already had 7.1 sound but using the analog preouts I get the HD audio and I definitely am glad I upgraded. I was disappointed though trying to find Dark Knight to demo the unit. I bet AVP will be a good demo though. |
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Are you sending your audio/video via HDMI now with your new setup? Well video has always been HDMI. Now my audio goes through the 7.1 channel analog inputs on my receiver so the player decodes the signal then my amp pumps it out. I played the Fifth element singing part on the new player in Dolby TrueHD then put it in my PS3 and even my gf could hear the difference. It was awesome, the new player does a great job up converting too. I also watched 300 on BD and it looked and sounded amazing. I think this player has a better PQ than my PS3. |
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Are you sending your audio/video via HDMI now with your new setup? Well video has always been HDMI. Now my audio goes through the 7.1 channel analog inputs on my receiver so the player decodes the signal then my amp pumps it out. I played the Fifth element singing part on the new player in Dolby TrueHD then put it in my PS3 and even my gf could hear the difference. It was awesome, the new player does a great job up converting too. I also watched 300 on BD and it looked and sounded amazing. I think this player has a better PQ than my PS3. Ahh, your new player has matching audio ouputs I presume? Didn't know that was even an option, I thought that the new HD audio formats could only be done via HDMI. |
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Are you sending your audio/video via HDMI now with your new setup? Well video has always been HDMI. Now my audio goes through the 7.1 channel analog inputs on my receiver so the player decodes the signal then my amp pumps it out. I played the Fifth element singing part on the new player in Dolby TrueHD then put it in my PS3 and even my gf could hear the difference. It was awesome, the new player does a great job up converting too. I also watched 300 on BD and it looked and sounded amazing. I think this player has a better PQ than my PS3. Ahh, your new player has matching audio ouputs I presume? Didn't know that was even an option, I thought that the new HD audio formats could only be done via HDMI. Yup both the Panasonic BD55K and Sony BD550 have analog 7.1 outputs so I took several nicely shielded Component video cables and connected them to the 7.1 inputs on my stereo. The BD player decodes the audio and passes it straight through to my receiver. It is a total of 8 connections. The link I posted up higher details connecting everything up. It's pretty straight forward actually. |
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I kept getting audio cut outs with my optical, and don't have HDMI yet on my receiver and have to use digital coax (harman kardon avr 55) after reading this I think I may upgrade receivers is the Harman Kardon AVR 154 any good? I had the same problem on my older Onkyo. Upgraded to an Onkyo TX-SR606 which has 4 HDMI inputs and one out. Cost is between $350-$400. There are a few others on here that have one and seem to be pleased. www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?class=Receiver&m=TX-SR606 |
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I kept getting audio cut outs with my optical, and don't have HDMI yet on my receiver and have to use digital coax (harman kardon avr 55) after reading this I think I may upgrade receivers is the Harman Kardon AVR 154 any good? I had the same problem on my older Onkyo. Upgraded to an Onkyo TX-SR606 which has 4 HDMI inputs and one out. Cost is between $350-$400. There are a few others on here that have one and seem to be pleased. www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?class=Receiver&m=TX-SR606 How does Onkyo compare to HK? I have been using my HK for years and love the sound. thanks for the info |
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The difference between HDMI video and component video is very noticeable (HDMI is better). The difference in audio is also significant. That looks like a very capable receiver and speakers in every respect except HDMI capability. Are you referencing the OP I made or the small side bar? If you are talking about mine then yes I would agree about HDMI for video being better. Since I switched over to using the analog outputs on my new BD player it has been much better. I have watched most of my BD discs again to experience the difference. Also being able to play them in both of my players to compare audio has been quite telling. |