Posted: 4/15/2007 4:49:48 PM EDT
| I'm about 40 minutes into the move, seems ok. The rest worth watching? |
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IF your as into either the aliens or the predator series of movies as i am, the holes in it should piss you off. The two film series' dont mix well and all the things in AVP that dont mix between them and leave questions unanswered really pissed me off but by itself AVP aint a half bad flick and i personally cant wait for AVP 2 coming this summer. 
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'Splain, please. I'm not an AVP expert. The geography and physics errors and holes were pretty stupid but fairly easy to ignore. The bad part was the stupid lib bitch being the only survivor. Shoulda been the hot armed blonde. |
Yeah... the blonde with the Beretta should have lived, I loved her line:
She was referring to her Beretta. Well, if you haven't seen all of the other alien or predator movies this is gonna be a long explanation. Trust me, if you liked AVP you should take the time to see the following: Alien Aliens Alien 3 Alien Resurrection Predator Predator 2 Just plain good movies, after you see them a few dozen times you might understand. 
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+1  That movie was a disgrace to my username and avatar!
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I've seen them all, some more recently than others. go ahead with the long explanation, I, for one, would like to hear it. Thanks, Merlin |
The ancients carved that temple out of a giant chocolate chip cookie. edit I thought it was an okay shits and giggles movie, no worse than predator 2 |
Of course it was everyone knows that when you swing an alien by the tail it comes off just like a lizard, completely fake.  I took the movie for what it was worth, a current SciFi flick that played to both sides of the field. (the alien fans and the predator fans) While there were some plot holes and other things not to like, I still liked the movie over all. I was worth the time and money that I spent watching it. |
I believe the predator has the alien by the foot. You're right that they tried to play both sides of the field. Sadly, they did a terrible job portraying either side. Some examples: (Huge spoiler warning) 1. It was completely stupid to have a predator, who knows he's in alien infested territory, remove his mask to mark himself. 2. The gestation of the baby aliens was reduced from several hours to mere minutes. 3. Aliens are vulnerable to being shot or blasted, stabbed, etc., but somehow are invulnerable to having their heads bashed through solid rock walls. 4. The libtard who doesn't believe in guns is somehow the only one to survive. Etc., etc. In the end I found the movie insulting to every race involved. |
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*** Warning SPOILERS if you care about this at all...also some really boring science stuff******** Sorry to drag this back up, but here is part of my department's company-time-wasting email exchange. I don't blame you if you don't have the endurance to finish it: IDIOT #1: I saw it a while back – it’s a fun enough movie, I suppose, but there’s issues with it… ********************************************************************* geerhed: I’m wondering if your issues match my issues. ********************************************************************* IDIOT #1: There wasn’t enough naked women in it, that was a big issue… Where to start? How can the pyramid be 2000ft below the surface? The altitude of Antarctica is not very high, so the pyramid was built below the water table, and more to the point when it was built there where people living there, that means the climate had to be warmer, which means that the water level would be higher then it is now. 2000 ft tunnel at 30 degrees, look up at the F*cking buildings, hello!!! SPACE, hmmm, the only terrestrial group with possibly enough technology to do that would be the US and if they did, you know it would be crawling with armed forces…. Think McFly. Oh yeah and the tunnel that was “Burnt” through the ice with a particle or beam weapon was rifled, WTF. The decent, hmm they are descending down ice and no one bothered to teach the 20min lesson to us a F*cking ice axe… Great guide! Even I know how to use an Ice axe Ahh pay attention the HUGE statues on the pyramid are not human…. And who in their right mind grabs an artifact from the ruins when the only archaeological expert is saying stop, don’t, wait Why hide your guns? What was with the two P*ssy predators that one alien could kill so easily If this is a temple for training or right of passage bullshit, why do the walls all break so easy in combat, who repairs it between each visit? And if they break so easy how do they trap anyone? How in Gods Green Earth did the chick make it out and get respect when the elite trained combat force got spanked like a $5 Vietnamese whore? How does one chain hold the queen to the water tower when she snapped two others without the acid when she escaped? Since the Predators made the temple and understood the Alien, specifically the breeding and maturation process, why did they not scan the dead comrade? That is enough for now, the movie was fun, blow’em up kill Sh*t, nice with surround sound, but most definitely devoid of plot, resemblance of realism or good acting I did like the magazine cover in the chopper ride out to the ship meeting, Bishop, nice! *********************************************************************** IDIOT #2:Why did the detonation destroy everything, when the “flashback” explosion just appeared to kill living things (didn’t destroy buildings or temples). If it was done in the past as they made it sound then why was it all there and not destroyed like in the explosion in the current time. WTF was up with that TURBO-LIFT? Would they really have a lift down there that would travel that fast?!!? Why wasn’t the queen alien killed in that massive explosion? When they were escaping the collapsing ground after the explosion – how was it that the girl was able to keep pace or even out run the Predator a couple times? If they had to run so far from the main “camp” after the explosion, why was there a snow plow/tractor 50 feet from her at the end of the movie? WTF was up with the Aliens being so over-powerful? I mean, they were totally kicking ass all over the Predators! The Predators looked to be a little too muscular, why didn’t they just use the athletic/acrobatic style from the first one? It would have been cool to see the Predators do some fancy stuff! ******************************************************************** geerhed: So, do you have a few minutes? To IDIOT #1 The average thickness of the ice sheet that covers 98% of Antarctica is 2,200 meters (7,200 feet). They were on an island/coastal area, so the ice would be thinner. To match the background story, the temple/testing ground would be on a mountaintop (e.g., 2000 feet elevation is minor) plus 2000 feet of ice is a reasonable approximation. The tunnel: 2000 feet at 30 degrees is 1.) 3464 feet distant as the crow flies, and 2.) a 4000-foot-long tunnel. The “best drilling crew” and equipment in the world was planning to drill…how? They were going to start drilling in the town, yet the target pyramid was 2/3 of a mile distant from them. Were they going straight down? They would miss. Were they going at an angle? Why? During an extreme-environment ice spelunking mission with complete neophytes, a decent down a 4000-foot blind unknown tunnel would take more than a day no matter how good your guide. PS the tunnel had a rippled interior, not rifled (the ridges were not helical). Gung-ho “hut-hut-hut” paramilitary-types guarding corporate gods always hide their weapons when around sissy pants-wetting liberal-arts majors (environmental, archeology…oh and the press, didn’t you know?). Do you have pictures of that Vietnamese whore? That water tower tied to the Queen’s tail was a standard 20’ x 20’ tank…if it was full of water (which would be heavier than fuel) and frozen, it would weigh about 75,200 pounds. As strong as the Aliens are, the QUEEN (!!!) can’t drag it back from the brink? Failing that, once she is in the water, she can’t bend around and snap the chain to escape? That was a load-bearing chain to lift her up in that kinky S&M rig, not a restraint chain. She should have been back to the surface, checking her luggage, and boarding First Class on the Predator ship before they knew to racially profile her at the checkpoint. Hey, they’ve been keeping the Queen on ice for who knows how long, defrosting her once a century only to force her to pump out eggs like a Hershey’s kiss machine via electro-shock therapy…what’s a little time under the water? If hitching a ride on the bumper of a drop ship through the upper atmosphere to the Soloku doesn’t kill you, who cares about an Arctic bath? Even those old farts called the “Polar Bears” can handle that and their skin is not silconized… The Pregnant Predator: The Predator took the Queen’s tail spike in the chest…and the embryo is not injured? In Alien3, the Alien would not touch Ripley because she had been impregnated. Yet, not only the other Aliens, but also the Queen immediately attack him. Why is he not immune? Especially as the resultant Alien will have some of the Predator DNA incorporated? To IDIOT #2-- The turbo lift had a secret code to run on nitrous, sheesh doesn’t everything? Duh, the queen is never killed in obvious explosions in which she should obviously be killed. The girl could outrun the Predator because…because..uh…well, never mind. The Aliens were not “overpowerful”. Please redo your research on previous examples. They only won when they could attack by surprise. Also, the Predators did not have their cloaking on or plasma-rocket shoulder weapons. I’m sorry the muscularity of the Predators disturbed you so deeply. Everyone is different you know. Different strokes for different folks, and all that. So, here are mine: If all the weapons of the Predators were immune to the molecular acid blood of the Aliens, them why wasn’t 1.) their armor also, as well as 2.) the Queen’s restraints? The use of Bishop as Weyland was cheesy. I understand the rationale, but none-the-less it remains cheesy. Even the link to Weyland itself was borderline and unnecessary. Was this written for kindergarteners, or just by them? When the Predators were stalking the second group in the vast hallway of images, why didn’t they just drop onto the humans carrying the Predator’s weapons, smash their heads, fillet anyone approaching them, take the weapons and leave? Even using the old theories about the Pangea mega-continent, Cambodia is on the opposite side from the Aztecs. The Egyptians are in the middle. However, this occurred back in the Jurassic to Cretaceous period, according to theory. No, er…people…around then to worship the Predators as “gods”. Wrong. There was 10x more character development for the original movie’s six-man military team than for this movie’s 20-man crew of Red Shirts. Way too much time was wasted with that loser Mechanical Engineer and his stupid camera. Nothing ever came of it. WTF was a penguin doing that far inland, even on an island? Wrong. The last Predator walks around with an embryo for the last half of the movie, but the blonde spikey-haired girl on the drilling team gets a chest-burster in about 15 minutes? What, if you put it in a hot oven, the bun cooks faster??? So, the woman stabs the Alien with the final Predator’s spear…no blood spills on her, and the Alien merely snaps at her, rather than climbing down the spear (a la the Chief Uruk-hai at the end of Two Towers vs. Aragon) and turning her into cat food? WTF? Soooo..only the “strong woman” type can ever defeat the Aliens? *********************************************************************** geerhed: Correction: a frozen water tank would be 376 000 pounds. Clearly though, as the Queen was trying to get the tasty treat from beneath it, her actions were moving it easily. Tank empty weight? A mere 20 000 pounds. Hell, I could swim with that. Why would they have a large open water tank at freakin Antarctica?? *********************************************************************** geerhed: Watched it again last night. They said the abandoned whaling town was DIRECTLY OVER THE SITE. Yet the Predator-burned tunnel 1.) starts at the town, 2.) goes down at a “perfect” 30 degree angle, 3.) is perfectly straight, and 4.) ends at the site. Not physically possible. I am more and more disappointed with this piece of tripe. Oh yeah, and they made the Predator’s mouths look WAY MORE like female body parts than either of the other two movies…who wrote this, 15-year-old boy? |