Posted: 1/9/2007 10:34:47 PM EDT
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I just watched about 3 minutes of this movie and I have a question. Meg Ryan's Helicopter was painted with the red cross, yet it had an M16 on board and a door gunner with a SAW. I thought that anything with the Red Cross on it couldn't be armed and that the purpose of putting the red cross on something was to show that it was a medical non-combatant. Is that not the case? |
So the M16 would have been OK, but the door gunner with the SAW would not have? To me that would seem like more offensive capability than defensive. What do I know about though? Nothing, that's what! 
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A saw is a light weapon |
the SAW is often used for suppressive fire. basically to get the enemy to stop shooting and put their heads back in their holes. |
 One of the inaccuracies of the movie. The other is somehow I doubt Meg Ryan could brush off a point-blank 5.56mm round to the stomach. 
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is it mounted in the movie ? |
I thought that it was suspended from some kind of tether. |
I've never seen the movie but a soldier can carry a light weapon for defense of the chopper. |
She didn't shrug it off...she managed to stay alive and conscious for a few hours afterward. Not unrealistic at all. Very good movie BTW. |
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1) Technically the rule is NO WEAPONS OR TROOPS, otherwise they could be used as a troop transport under the color of an ambulance... That is a LLW violation... IRL, if hostile fire would be expected, it would have had a gunship or at least a non-red-cross utility escort... Of course a gunship would have wasted that tank & troops without getting shot down... Ergo no movie... 2) She took a 5.56mm BURST from the SAW... COM... 3) You can't blow up a tank with an auxiliary fuel-cell of JP-8 and a flare gun, no matter how good a shot you are with the flare gun... But it was just a MOVIE.... |
DUDE! how can you not have liked him in training day? I thought he was excellent. It was nice to see him break away from the normal "squared away" (crimson tide, man on fire) denzel. Besides when you really think about it, was he the bad guy in the movie? or was he a good guy, who just got the job done in an unothodox way? think about it Mike |
www.crimesofwar.org/thebook/medical-transports.html www.armystudyguide.com/content/powerpoint/Geneva_Convention_Presentations/identify-the-key-elements-2.shtml article 24 - 31 there is a grey line |
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Well, there were other tank-related inaccuracies as well. The .50 cal on an M1A1 cannot be aimed and fired by standing up and using it like a pintle-gun. The traverse and elevation controls are in the turret itself. If the tanks turn on their headlights, they will not be visible in the thermal sights. (Though if nonIR headlghts, they could always flip to daysight and check) Crew cut on Sabre 6's tank for shooting without an 'on the way'. Loader should be thwapped a bit for not immediately reloading sabot after the previous round. However, kudos to the film-makers for dubbing the turbine startup noise on top of the diesels. It threw me for a second. "They're mockups, but they sound like turbines..." (The tanks are actually ex-Aussie-Army Centurions) NTM |
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Point of ettiquette. We used to test our IR headlights by feeling them to see if they are warm. White light head lights are the same as IR except without the IR filter. They do get warm and they would show up against a metal tank in February in thermals. I also think you can free gun the commanders M2, but its a pain in the ass. Not a 19, but have worked in a tank, "On the way" is table VIII, but somethings go out the window in real world. IE, like the whole fucking crew doesn't know you just cranked one out the tube? I always thought, "On the way." was retarded. But, yes, the loader is on his ass for not reloading immediately. |