My wife’s 72 Chevelle and my GT350 thread (Page 3 of 5)
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
We haven't pulled any carpet up inside to check it. I've had the car on a lift and didn't see anything from the underside so we are assuming it is in very good shape and will need little if any rust repair. The car has 24k on the odometer so we assume it has 124k on it but it could be more. It runs well but burns a little oil. Those old straight 6's would run for a long time. But, they never really made enough power to wear anything out  Early Chevy V8s were mounted slightly higher in the front than the back and typically those rear cylinders were the first to wear out. |
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Made some progress today. Got the driver side inner fender well and dash out of the Mustang. Drilling out spot welds is not my idea of a good time While I was working on that the wife got started cleaning up her transmission.
Need to get these two panels cleaned up then put in primer. The goal for tomorrow will be to get the new floor pan up on jack stand and leveled. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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That doesn't look bad at all. I think I was watching a show the other day that said the inner fender parts like that are integral to the rigidity to the car. I'm not sure if that's the case on all cars or if it was the mustang they were talking about. But I think it was. Love your wife's Shirt. I have not seen one like that. It's my Daughter's 16th Birthday today and she's been listening to the Beetles a lot and I bough her Past Masters Volume 1 and 2 on CD. I think she'll be happy. I think that T shirt goes with that album. LOL. We need some after pics of the tranny when it's done. 
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John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
The rest of my patch panel showed up today 
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Threw the quarter panel frames on the floor pan real quick to see how they fit. Not well is the answer The frames themselves look very close but the wheel well is not anywhere near fitting correctly. Thankfully the wheel wells are screwed to the frames so they can be fit easily. I have a LOT of work ahead of me.  Beats the hell out of fixing rust though 
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
You know, right now would be a good time to mini-tub that chassis.  ETA: Any recommendations on a mini tub kit? Looking at the Detroit Speed kit currently but haven't made a decision yet. |
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
That doesn't look bad at all. I think I was watching a show the other day that said the inner fender parts like that are integral to the rigidity to the car. I'm not sure if that's the case on all cars or if it was the mustang they were talking about. But I think it was. Love your wife's Shirt. I have not seen one like that. It's my Daughter's 16th Birthday today and she's been listening to the Beetles a lot and I bough her Past Masters Volume 1 and 2 on CD. I think she'll be happy. I think that T shirt goes with that album. LOL. We need some after pics of the tranny when it's done. My wife loves that shirt but never listens to the Beatles
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
What was the cost difference between a full dynacorn body vs all the panels? Genuinely curious. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
$6k ish. Could have saved more money by buying the floor pan and frame rails in pieces vs complete but spent a little extra to save myself from having to build a jig to put it together. |
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Made a little more progress on the Mustang. After a lot of not so gentle persuasion a buddy and I got the firewall tucked in between the floor supports and floor pan. Got the cowl dropped in. The quarter panel frames are very close to where they need to be. The firewall position still needs worked on a bit. In a holding pattern now until another few dozen C clamp vise grips show up. Going to have quite the collection of them once I'm done
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OK, now I forget what you said or if you said; what's your plan for that Mustang? Are you going restomod since you're going to tub it? I'm guessing not a stock build. Or light modded, restored? Ooooooh, what would be awesome, SCCA Trans Am race car build. Oh yeah. Just curious what you got in mind......
I don't relate to someone who's never listened to the Beatle's. LOL. Just teasing. (You all are probably almost half my age) I had a long time where I haven't but I did quite a bit as a young man. And now my Daughter likes them so.... I'm hearing them more. You have to buy their stuff though. You can't just youtube them and get original recordings. Although I found the time where they were up on the top of a building in London and did a surprise show for everyone. That was on youtube for some reason. Get back Get back, get back to where you once belong. C'mon Man, you guys are going to be driving cars from that Era. Your wifes car will need Abbey Road played in it. Your's needs more of their earlier stuff. Twist and Shout. 
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
OK, now I forget what you said or if you said; what's your plan for that Mustang? Are you going restomod since you're going to tub it? I'm guessing not a stock build. Or light modded, restored? Ooooooh, what would be awesome, SCCA Trans Am race car build. Oh yeah. Just curious what you got in mind...... http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/01-shelby-mustangs-monterey-2011.jpg I don't relate to someone who's never listened to the Beatle's. LOL. Just teasing. (You all are probably almost half my age) I had a long time where I haven't but I did quite a bit as a young man. And now my Daughter likes them so.... I'm hearing them more. You have to buy their stuff though. You can't just youtube them and get original recordings. Although I found the time where they were up on the top of a building in London and did a surprise show for everyone. That was on youtube for some reason. Get back Get back, get back to where you once belong. C'mon Man, you guys are going to be driving cars from that Era. Your wifes car will need Abbey Road played in it. Your's needs more of their earlier stuff. Twist and Shout.
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Originally Posted By disorientedpilot:
How are you keeping the body straight or planning to straighten it when you're done? There really isn't enough structure to keep it straight without care.
Long answer, I'll wind up with lots of temporary internal bracing to keep everything straight and square until there is enough structure. I spent most of the day today getting the inner rockers where they need to be. They're getting close. Couple more full days of fine tuning and I should have everything that's currently clamped on the floorpan square and true. Then I can get some internal bracing installed and begin welding it out. Then onto the front frame rails, torque boxes, inner fender wells and radiator support. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: This will be the general look that I'm going after. Will be painted in Ford's Lead Foot Grey. Still debating on wether or not I want black Shelby stripes on it. Probably won't do the larger fender flares and definitely bigger brakes https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/9C7704F5-58B3-4893-A2A8-62B80D02C3B7_jpeg-965929.JPG Will be a pro touring style restomod. The interior will be pretty stripped down borderline track car This will just be a toy to go fast in for me. Definitely not what most people will want but I'm building what I want Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By JJREA: OK, now I forget what you said or if you said; what's your plan for that Mustang? Are you going restomod since you're going to tub it? I'm guessing not a stock build. Or light modded, restored? Ooooooh, what would be awesome, SCCA Trans Am race car build. Oh yeah. Just curious what you got in mind...... http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/01-shelby-mustangs-monterey-2011.jpg I don't relate to someone who's never listened to the Beatle's. LOL. Just teasing. (You all are probably almost half my age) I had a long time where I haven't but I did quite a bit as a young man. And now my Daughter likes them so.... I'm hearing them more. You have to buy their stuff though. You can't just youtube them and get original recordings. Although I found the time where they were up on the top of a building in London and did a surprise show for everyone. That was on youtube for some reason. Get back Get back, get back to where you once belong. C'mon Man, you guys are going to be driving cars from that Era. Your wifes car will need Abbey Road played in it. Your's needs more of their earlier stuff. Twist and Shout. This will be the general look that I'm going after. Will be painted in Ford's Lead Foot Grey. Still debating on wether or not I want black Shelby stripes on it. Probably won't do the larger fender flares and definitely bigger brakes https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/9C7704F5-58B3-4893-A2A8-62B80D02C3B7_jpeg-965929.JPG Will be a pro touring style restomod. The interior will be pretty stripped down borderline track car This will just be a toy to go fast in for me. Definitely not what most people will want but I'm building what I want I was with you until you said lead foot. I think the color would actually look good if it were metallic. |
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Not being a smart ass, but you do know to jump around with your spot welds? Like a few in one area, and then jump to the other side of the car or panel? Too much heat in one area, especially on a huge assembly like this, and you will have a very warped body when you are done. I learned this the hard way many years ago with just a quarter panel on a customers car.
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
Not being a smart ass, but you do know to jump around with your spot welds? Like a few in one area, and then jump to the other side of the car or panel? Too much heat in one area, especially on a huge assembly like this, and you will have a very warped body when you are done. I learned this the hard way many years ago with just a quarter panel on a customers car.
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I would track overall chassis dimensions as you go. Welds shrink and pull. I haven't done what you're doing but I have done chromoly space frame chassis and they will move all over the place. Over time you just keep tweaking and can get it straight, but I had a chassis table to measure from at the time. My big concern would be glass, trim, and body panel fitment. Lots of mock up to make sure you don't end up having a car that needs custom trim or modified glass. |
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Originally Posted By disorientedpilot: My big concern would be glass, trim, and body panel fitment. Lots of mock up to make sure you don't end up having a car that needs custom trim or modified glass. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
This will be the general look that I'm going after. Will be painted in Ford's Lead Foot Grey. Still debating on wether or not I want black Shelby stripes on it. Probably won't do the larger fender flares and definitely bigger brakes
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/9C7704F5-58B3-4893-A2A8-62B80D02C3B7_jpeg-965929.JPG Will be a pro touring style restomod. The interior will be pretty stripped down borderline track car This will just be a toy to go fast in for me. Definitely not what most people will want but I'm building what I want |
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Nothing new on the Mustang. Trying to get another project finished up and delivered to free up some space in the shop. Won't get back on the Mustang until I get it finished up in a week or two. Doing a mechanical restoration on a 1908 IH Tom Thumb hit and miss engine for a friend and local farmer. Most of the ignition system is missing, piston was seized in the cylinder from 40 years worth of mouse piss and some Babbitt bearings needed repoured.
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
What is that thing for and how old is it? You had me confused with that statement but the age difference. You mean it's like from 1910? |
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Originally Posted By JJREA: But wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run if it came with it than buying a whole new engine? Do you have a car with one now? I would love to see and hear about it. If you can post here if it's OK with pavelow or maybe start another thread? You could start a straight 6 thread. |
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556: @Pavelow16478 Update? Unfortunately not much to update  Life has gotten in the way through the fall and winter. Been tied up with some house remodels, work, finishing up my parents house. Haven't gotten much at all done on the Mustang. My wife has close to everything she needs for the engine swap on the Chevelle. Just need headers and a few misc odds and ends. The plan is to get started on the swap probably around the end of May. Have to get through all of the major spring yard work and unfortunately I'll be working 7 days weeks 12 ish hours a day for most of May Santa was nice to the wife and brought her a Flowmaster American Thunder stainless exhaust for Christmas. Should sound good when done  Will be sure to update this thread once we start making some progress! |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Unfortunately not much to update Life has gotten in the way through the fall and winter. Been tied up with some house remodels, work, finishing up my parents house. Haven't gotten much at all done on the Mustang. My wife has close to everything she needs for the engine swap on the Chevelle. Just need headers and a few misc odds and ends. The plan is to get started on the swap probably around the end of May. Have to get through all of the major spring yard work and unfortunately I'll be working 7 days weeks 12 ish hours a day for most of May Santa was nice to the wife and brought her a Flowmaster American Thunder stainless exhaust for Christmas. Should sound good when done Will be sure to update this thread once we start making some progress! Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: @Pavelow16478 Update? Unfortunately not much to update Life has gotten in the way through the fall and winter. Been tied up with some house remodels, work, finishing up my parents house. Haven't gotten much at all done on the Mustang. My wife has close to everything she needs for the engine swap on the Chevelle. Just need headers and a few misc odds and ends. The plan is to get started on the swap probably around the end of May. Have to get through all of the major spring yard work and unfortunately I'll be working 7 days weeks 12 ish hours a day for most of May Santa was nice to the wife and brought her a Flowmaster American Thunder stainless exhaust for Christmas. Should sound good when done Will be sure to update this thread once we start making some progress! 
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: Not being a smart ass, but you do know to jump around with your spot welds? Like a few in one area, and then jump to the other side of the car or panel? Too much heat in one area, especially on a huge assembly like this, and you will have a very warped body when you are done. I learned this the hard way many years ago with just a quarter panel on a customers car. The first quarter i replaced was with oxy/fuel. |
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After a long fall and winter of not getting anything done on the Mustang and going back and forth on how I wanted to proceed I finally decide to bite the bullet and build a frame jig. Will make it MUCH easier to keep everything straight. Picked up the steel today, hope to get a good start on it tomorrow when it's raining and I can't work in the yard. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: This will be the general look that I'm going after. Will be painted in Ford's Lead Foot Grey. Still debating on wether or not I want black Shelby stripes on it. Probably won't do the larger fender flares and definitely bigger brakes https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/9C7704F5-58B3-4893-A2A8-62B80D02C3B7_jpeg-965929.JPG Will be a pro touring style restomod. The interior will be pretty stripped down borderline track car This will just be a toy to go fast in for me. Definitely not what most people will want but I'm building what I want Nice looking car, but those wheels are f'ing hideous. They just don't look right on a ride like that. |
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Frame jig is mostly done, one more set of supports for the front frame rails. Jig has leveling feet in 6 places so it will sit level independent of the floor. Jig is square to within +/- 1/16" and the body sat down on it to within +/- 1/16". I got lucky The wife is in the process of stripping the interior out of the Chevelle. Will be getting redone and the correct seat brackets welded in for bucket seats. Floor pan looks surprisingly good! Only a couple minor rust spots that need attention. Forgot to snap pics We've determined that we need a bigger shop Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Got the frame jig finished up today. Wound up moving the front frame rail support back about 4" and adjusting the elevation on it. This puts the front of the frame rails at the correct elevation from the datum and allows access to the bottom of them for welding the core support on. Front end is mocked up. Everything looks good dimension wise. Now to tear it all back apart and start prep for welding it all together. Have to strip some areas on the frame rails and hit them with weld through primer, layout and drill a lot of holes for the plug welds. Almost looks like a car Attached File |
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Got the front end of the Mustang torn apart today to start prepping everything. Have some epoxy primer on the way for the inside of the rockers and inside the cowl. Chevelle disassembly starts tomorrow Picked up an engine hoist today. Decided to put a new core support in the car. Hers has the small opening for the small radiator, going to the larger opening to fit the much more common larger radiator. Also a nice big rust spot in the current core support.My wife is starting to round up parts for redoing the door weather stripping. Has the correct stainless trim pieces on the way. Current weather stripping is glued/siliconed into place  Not going to be fun to clean up.Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Got the front end of the Mustang torn apart today to start prepping everything. Have some epoxy primer on the way for the inside of the rockers and inside the cowl. Chevelle disassembly starts tomorrow Picked up an engine hoist today. Decided to put a new core support in the car. Hers has the small opening for the small radiator, going to the larger opening to fit the much more common larger radiator. Also a nice big rust spot in the current core support.My wife is starting to round up parts for redoing the door weather stripping. Has the correct stainless trim pieces on the way. Current weather stripping is glued/siliconed into place Not going to be fun to clean up.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/8FB2A0CA-061A-4E24-9A50-BBB88F2CC045_jpe-1396602.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/133E7A52-53CB-4E45-9C53-075B298AB33A_jpe-1396603.JPG The core support is notorious for rusting our on those A bodies. Mine was also, so the previous owner replaced it. |
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Awesome thread, cant believe I missed this before. Helped a buddy years ago rebuild a 70 Chevelle SS...unfortunately he sold it to fund an engagement ring. Have been looking for a 64 or 65 Mustang for a few years. Got bored waiting for a good one at a reasonable price and being into offloading, I picked up a 94 Jeep Cherokee XJ that I'm rebuilding. Just got my new exhaust, 4.5" lift kit, gas tank, all new brakes etc in. Had a lot of rust and some floor pans were basically gone. New floor pans are now in and waiting to take it to a shop to get a nice undercoating done. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Powering things around the farm before the days when everything had its own engine. Corn sheller, feed grinder, washing machine, cream separator, well pump, etc... It was made in 1908 Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By JJREA: What is that thing for and how old is it? You had me confused with that statement but the age difference. You mean it's like from 1910? Powering things around the farm before the days when everything had its own engine. Corn sheller, feed grinder, washing machine, cream separator, well pump, etc... It was made in 1908 Most farms back then did not have electricity. Other than cities/towns rural America did not get electricity till late 30’s. |