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4/30/2019 6:52:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pavelow16478][Edited] [#1]
After a month of trying to find the correct mounts we finally got the power steering pump in the car tonight.  It's not perfect nor 100% factory original but it will be good enough until the car gets a 350.  Part of the mount is correct and part is from an integrated head 250 but it worked.  Still needs one longer bolt and waiting on the nut for the pulley to show up then she'll have power steering

Also going to check out a local engine builder this Saturday to talk about having him build a 350.

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5/1/2019 11:53:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA][Edited] [#2]
I didn't realize it currently had a straight 6 in it.  I like it even more now.  LOL.  I like the straight 6's.  Obviously not for going fast but for nostalgia.  Family had a lot of Nova's always with the straight 6.  231 I thought it was.....   Well actually, we had a 77 nova with a 305 once too.  But the rest of the Nova's had the straight 6.   I always thought it would be cool to soup one of them up but back in the day it didn't really seem like it was a thing.

I was watching an episode of Classic Car I think it's called, the dude with the handlebar mustache and a guy had on older 51 Chevy with a straight 6 and it had dual weber carbs on it and he said gets up to 100 in no time.  Not really sure what that meant but it looked real nice.

I'll make a small picture contribution to this thread for no other reason than I liked this car and it was the 2nd car I owned.  The first running car.  But since you say your paint job is a 30'er.  My car was like a 200'er.  LOL.  I only bought it for 500 bucks and I loved that car.  Would've been a nice one to hang onto and restore but I was young and dumb and sold it to my cousin when I started having problems with it and wanted something that got better gas mileage.  That probably wasn't super unwise as I was broke.  LOL.   Although I eventually got that 74 Chevelle wagon with a 350 cuz I couldn't help myself.  8 mpg.  Or 8 gallons to the mile.  One of the two.    Wish I had pics of that one.  Nobody took pictures back then on the scale we do today.

John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/3/2019 8:09:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
I didn't realize it currently had a straight 6 in it.  I like it even more now.  LOL.  I like the straight 6's.  Obviously not for going fast but for nostalgia.  Family had a lot of Nova's always with the straight 6.  231 I thought it was.....   Well actually, we had a 77 nova with a 305 once too.  But the rest of the Nova's had the straight 6.   I always thought it would be cool to soup one of them up but back in the day it didn't really seem like it was a thing.

I was watching an episode of Classic Car I think it's called, the dude with the handlebar mustache and a guy had on older 51 Chevy with a straight 6 and it had dual weber carbs on it and he said gets up to 100 in no time.  Not really sure what that meant but it looked real nice.

I'll make a small picture contribution to this thread for no other reason than I liked this car and it was the 2nd car I owned.  The first running car.  But since you say your paint job is a 30'er.  My car was like a 200'er.  LOL.  I only bought it for 500 bucks and I loved that car.  Would've been a nice one to hang onto and restore but I was young and dumb and sold it to my cousin when I started having problems with it and wanted something that got better gas mileage.  That probably wasn't super unwise as I was broke.  LOL.   Although I eventually got that 74 Chevelle wagon with a 350 cuz I couldn't help myself.  8 mpg.  Or 8 gallons to the mile.  One of the two.    Wish I had pics of that one.  Nobody took pictures back then on the scale we do today.

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Well sell you the 250 CID straight 6 of you want it  Aftermarket parts for them are nearly nonexistent

Nice looking car!  Can't find them for $500 anymore.  Just saw another 72 Chevelle posted for sale locally.  Full of rust and not running, $23k  My wife paid 1/3 of that for hers
5/3/2019 8:13:15 PM EDT
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Got some blasting done on the Mustang tonight.  Finally found the passenger side VIN.  Apparently my wife's loves to sandblast  Only did the panels that will be coming off and reused.

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Will be keeping the UPS man busy, have quite a few new parts on the way!
5/3/2019 8:49:54 PM EDT
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Gonna warp the shit out of that hood sand blasting it.  Never sand blast body panels.
5/3/2019 11:42:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

Well sell you the 250 CID straight 6 of you want it  Aftermarket parts for them are nearly nonexistent

Nice looking car!  Can't find them for $500 anymore.  Just saw another 72 Chevelle posted for sale locally.  Full of rust and not running, $23k  My wife paid 1/3 of that for hers
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Offenhauser and Clifford make tripple singles and 4 barrel intake manifolds. 12bolt.com has all the internals you might want and a turbo manifold if that's your thing.

Modding an I6 will cost you more than modding a V8, that's a certainty. I still like em though. Partially to be different and partially because of their torque on tap.
5/4/2019 12:50:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA][Edited] [#7]
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

Well sell you the 250 CID straight 6 of you want it  Aftermarket parts for them are nearly nonexistent

Nice looking car!  Can't find them for $500 anymore.  Just saw another 72 Chevelle posted for sale locally.  Full of rust and not running, $23k  My wife paid 1/3 of that for hers
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I guess that's the problem.  No one making parts for them....  I did watch a bunch of youtube videos last night of people that souped up their Ford 200's and Chevy 250's, 292's.  I'm not sure where they're getting their parts but every one of them had different carb set ups.  Some triples, some 4 barrels.  One video had a chevy I think 250 on a dyno and it was making 275 HP regularly and revving up to 6000 rpm's.  I was like, wowz.  I think they peaked at over 300 HP at some point.   And torque was right up in the high 200's but usually at a bit lower RPM's.  But pretty consistent.

But yeah, not as much power as a good small block and probably no where near the amount of parts out there for them.  I kind of dig the sound of them though.  Although it almost seems out of place in a classic american car cuz you're just so used to hearing the v-8 rumble.  It's like they only seem right in weird cars or just keep them quiet with normal mufflers.  LOL.

I thought a cool project would be a replica AC Cobra with a souped up straight 6.  Has that British sound to go with a British type car.  

And yeah, no way you could get a 75 camaro that cheap any more.   There is one in my town that has been sitting in a guys yard that I oogle over. There is also a 72, I think, Nova down the road from me just sitting there that I oogle over.  If only I had a lot of money and energy and time.  

The mustang is looking good.  My wife and I have been working on a little project together too.  It's our John Deere that needs a little love this year.  It ran yesterday but surging.  I think I might have figured that out but it's not starting today.   Putting a new plug and fuel filter in today.

John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/4/2019 3:31:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
Gonna warp the shit out of that hood sand blasting it.  Never sand blast body panels.
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I have personally never had a problem with warping them.  But, you can definitely destroy them quick!
5/4/2019 3:33:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Offenhauser and Clifford make tripple singles and 4 barrel intake manifolds. 12bolt.com has all the internals you might want and a turbo manifold if that's your thing.

Modding an I6 will cost you more than modding a V8, that's a certainty. I still like em though. Partially to be different and partially because of their torque on tap.
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Interesting.  Didn't realize there people selling upgraded internals for them.

If im going to have a straight 6, it's going to be a Cummins.  Even then, I still prefer a Powerstroke
5/4/2019 3:36:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:

I guess that's the problem.  No one making parts for them....  I did watch a bunch of youtube videos last night of people that souped up their Ford 200's and Chevy 250's, 292's.  I'm not sure where they're getting their parts but every one of them had different carb set ups.  Some triples, some 4 barrels.  One video had a chevy I think 250 on a dyno and it was making 275 HP regularly and revving up to 6000 rpm's.  I was like, wowz.  I think they peaked at over 300 HP at some point.   And torque was right up in the high 200's but usually at a bit lower RPM's.  But pretty consistent.

But yeah, not as much power as a good small block and probably no where near the amount of parts out there for them.  I kind of dig the sound of them though.  Although it almost seems out of place in a classic american car cuz you're just so used to hearing the v-8 rumble.  It's like they only seem right in weird cars or just keep them quiet with normal mufflers.  LOL.

I thought a cool project would be a replica AC Cobra with a souped up straight 6.  Has that British sound to go with a British type car.  

And yeah, no way you could get a 75 camaro that cheap any more.   There is one in my town that has been sitting in a guys yard that I oogle over. There is also a 72, I think, Nova down the road from me just sitting there that I oogle over.  If only I had a lot of money and energy and time.  

The mustang is looking good.  My wife and I have been working on a little project together too.  It's our John Deere that needs a little love this year.  It ran yesterday but surging.  I think I might have figured that out but it's not starting today.   Putting a new plug and fuel filter in today.

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SBC is just cheap and easy to make power with and anything and everything is available for them.  Just don't buy one if you want something unique

Not a bad little project!  Hope you get it running right!  Working on lawn mowers can be maddening

I just finished up pouring a babbitt bearing on a 1908 hit and miss engine.  Got it cleaned up and back together.  Fits pretty well.
5/4/2019 3:39:43 PM EDT
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Well, we went to the engines builders open house today.  Have to go back with the truck Tuesday to pick up a TH700R4 tranny my wife bought  My wife also put a deposit down on a 350 he had completed and on the test stand  Should pick it up in a month or so once she sells off part of her fabric collection.

Can't wait to get it in the car!

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5/4/2019 3:40:40 PM EDT
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I really enjoy these kinds of threads.  One of the coolest parts of this thread is that your wife will get in there and work on it too.  That increases your wife's "coolness" factor by a factor of at least 10.

Wives that will dive in and do the work too are way cool.
5/4/2019 3:49:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Offenhauser and Clifford make tripple singles and 4 barrel intake manifolds. 12bolt.com has all the internals you might want and a turbo manifold if that's your thing.

Modding an I6 will cost you more than modding a V8, that's a certainty. I still like em though. Partially to be different and partially because of their torque on tap.
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But wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run if it came with it than buying a whole new engine?   Do you have a car with one now?  I would love to see and hear about it.  If you can post here if it's OK with pavelow or maybe start another thread?  You could start a straight 6 thread.  
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/4/2019 3:56:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
Well, we went to the engines builders open house today.  Have to go back with the truck Tuesday to pick up a TH700R4 tranny my wife bought  My wife also put a deposit down on a 350 he had completed and on the test stand  Should pick it up in a month or so once she sells off part of her fabric collection.

Can't wait to get it in the car!

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Fabric collection?

Sounds like you had a fun day.  I'm not up on all the trannies but something tells me a turbo700 was a corvette auto tranny in like the late 80's early 90's?  Is that right?   Is it 6 gears?  She's gonna have one bad to the bone Chevelle!!!!!!!!!!!!

I miss driving a manual car but my wife can't drive one.  I've tried to teach her a few times even on what I thought was one of the easiest cars to drive a manual and it just didn't work.  Then I got to thinking, heck I don't even mind an auto any longer.  As I get older to me it's more about the smoothness of it all.  LOL.   If my 18 year old self heard me now, we would have words......    Right now I'm nostalgic for a shifter on the tree.  There's something....  charming about that set up.  LOL.

I think we got the mower purring now.  We were having some difficulty with where the little spring was supposed to be on the throttle.  First it was on the choke plate.  Then I watched some youtube vids and saw two people had it on the throttle.  But then it ended up it was the spring that actually opens the choke back up when you turn it off.  LOL.  The cool thing was my whole family was involved.  I did the spark plug and some of the fuel filter but had the kids help.  My daughter is the one that figured out the problem with the linkage on the choke plate.

Moral of the story as we all already know well, youtube can be full of misinformation.  Check the sources.  Just like anything.
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/4/2019 4:02:27 PM EDT
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I really enjoy these kinds of threads.  One of the coolest parts of this thread is that your wife will get in there and work on it too.  That increases your wife's "coolness" factor by a factor of at least 10.

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Definitely!  I got a good one!
5/4/2019 4:03:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:

But wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run if it came with it than buying a whole new engine?   Do you have a car with one now?  I would love to see and hear about it.  If you can post here if it's OK with pavelow or maybe start another thread?  You could start a straight 6 thread.  
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Fine with me!  Always like seeing old car and engine pics
5/4/2019 4:05:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:

Fabric collection?

Sounds like you had a fun day.  I'm not up on all the trannies but something tells me a turbo700 was a corvette auto tranny in like the late 80's early 90's?  Is that right?   Is it 6 gears?  She's gonna have one bad to the bone Chevelle!!!!!!!!!!!!

I miss driving a manual car but my wife can't drive one.  I've tried to teach her a few times even on what I thought was one of the easiest cars to drive a manual and it just didn't work.  Then I got to thinking, heck I don't even mind an auto any longer.  As I get older to me it's more about the smoothness of it all.  LOL.   If my 18 year old self heard me now, we would have words......    Right now I'm nostalgic for a shifter on the tree.  There's something....  charming about that set up.  LOL.

I think we got the mower purring now.  We were having some difficulty with where the little spring was supposed to be on the throttle.  First it was on the choke plate.  Then I watched some youtube vids and saw two people had it on the throttle.  But then it ended up it was the spring that actually opens the choke back up when you turn it off.  LOL.  The cool thing was my whole family was involved.  I did the spark plug and some of the fuel filter but had the kids help.  My daughter is the one that figured out the problem with the linkage on the choke plate.

Moral of the story as we all already know well, youtube can be full of misinformation.  Check the sources.  Just like anything.
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Shes big into fabric and making quilts.  Her sewing machine cost more than the Chevelle, and new engine

Ill always have an auto for a DD but love a manual for a fun car.

700R4 is a 3 speed with overdrive.  Should be a good fit the the car.

Glad to hear you got the mower running!  Sounds like a good family project!  I'm typing this while sitting on my mower  Having to dodge water puddles, but it needs mowed before it turns into a hay field.  Been a WET spring.
5/4/2019 4:35:26 PM EDT
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Your wife is gorgeous too.  Pretty and not adverse to getting her hands dirty.  You are blessed!  My wife is good like that too, so we are blessed. I'm thining I'm a lot older than you though so we don't look quite as good any more.  LOL.  

It was exciting to do it cuz last year my health was real bad (lyme disease) and I had a friend get it running.  This year it was great to be able to do what I did.  Plus it's been a while since I wrenched on an engine.  So it's been a lot of fun.  Next project is to detail my Ford Focus better.  The rims need some real attention.  Got the brake dust on them and I started cleaning them up with some brushes.  Need to take a tooth brush to the hard to get spots.

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John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/6/2019 9:15:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Your wife is gorgeous too.  Pretty and not adverse to getting her hands dirty.  You are blessed!  My wife is good like that too, so we are blessed. I'm thining I'm a lot older than you though so we don't look quite as good any more.  LOL.  

It was exciting to do it cuz last year my health was real bad (lyme disease) and I had a friend get it running.  This year it was great to be able to do what I did.  Plus it's been a while since I wrenched on an engine.  So it's been a lot of fun.  Next project is to detail my Ford Focus better.  The rims need some real attention.  Got the brake dust on them and I started cleaning them up with some brushes.  Need to take a tooth brush to the hard to get spots.

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Thank you!  Nice looking family and yard!

Man, you're a glutton for punishment cleaning rims like that  We live on a dirt and gravel road so we never have clean vehicles.  My truck is lucky if it gets hosed off a couple times a year
5/6/2019 1:06:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

Thank you!  Nice looking family and yard!

Man, you're a glutton for punishment cleaning rims like that  We live on a dirt and gravel road so we never have clean vehicles.  My truck is lucky if it gets hosed off a couple times a year
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I'm not sure if I'll get them completely clean.  I want to though.  I have neglected them and the brake dust is on there good.  Seeins how I don't have any good hot rod projects, I wanna pay more attention to my daily driver.  It sort of struck me that when I see pristine cars from like the 80's even just normal ole cars, I find it really cool.  And most daily driver cars are typically treated as throw away cars.  I mean all these cars will just be toast one day and there won't be any left.  Yet 20 years from now if by some miracle I could keep my Focus decent, it would probably be rare.  LOL.  I'm not sure it will have much value but at least it would be neat.

It's probably not worth it to sink a lot of money into a normal ole car because I probably won't ever get that back.  But who knows...…  Maybe a 30 year old Focus in good condition might be worth something to somebody.  But I have yet to see a Ford Escort from the 80's that someone is still driving.  Or just insert some kind of normal car that one might think was neat.  Probably a few in some old people's garages but I think even more so than the old days people just junk cars quickly when they start needing work.

Or maybe not....  I could be wrong.  One of my Dream cars would be a 1985 Ford Escort GT, in white.  LOL.  I know, silly.  But it's a car I lusted over in High School.
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/6/2019 2:17:18 PM EDT
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5/6/2019 3:29:07 PM EDT
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I hear ya.  I wonder how much weight you actually save with an I-6.  But I do believe it's lighter.   It's a shame there isn't more lower cost parts for them.  At one time they were the working mans engine in a Chevy.  LOL.

It is hard to beat the rumble and track record and all that of a small block chevy.  I get it.
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/6/2019 4:45:28 PM EDT
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I hear ya.  I wonder how much weight you actually save with an I-6.  But I do believe it's lighter.   It's a shame there isn't more lower cost parts for them.  At one time they were the working mans engine in a Chevy.  LOL.

It is hard to beat the rumble and track record and all that of a small block chevy.  I get it.
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About 150ish lbs lighter than a SBC. A 292 narrows that gap some but talk about the ultimate sleeper/hot rod engine.

The GM in-line was produced in Brazil till around 2000 and those guys were making some beastly vehicles from them. They were multipoint fuel injected and it was common place for them to turbo them.

GM also had the Atlas series of engines which were inline 6s in their trailblazer and GMC equivalents. Awesome motors but had a short lifespan because GM want to streamline production and the Inline 6 isn't conducive to transverse drive applications.

The Ford 300 is another awesome inline as is the infamous Jeep 4.0

Personally I'm glad to see the inline coming back.  They really are great engine designs. . One of zee Germans is going to be producing a vehicle with them again. GM has the new inline duramax in the 1500 series trucks later this year which I'm eagerly waiting to see real world reviews on over the next few years.
5/6/2019 4:59:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
After a month of trying to find the correct mounts we finally got the power steering pump in the car tonight.  It's not perfect nor 100% factory original but it will be good enough until the car gets a 350.  Part of the mount is correct and part is from an integrated head 250 but it worked.  Still needs one longer bolt and waiting on the nut for the pulley to show up then she'll have power steering

Also going to check out a local engine builder this Saturday to talk about having him build a 350.

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Op, on building a tree fity?  Stop stop stop that's 1980's thinking.  BUY A GM CRATE MOTOR.  cheaper, it's gonna do EXACLTY what it says it's gonna do AND depending on which one you pick it WILL INCREASE the value of the Chevelle.  I and many others will NEVER buy or will severely discount a muscle car with some random "built" small block as it's always the same 1980's hotrod magazine boring ass build.    Unless.... you are getting a balanced correctly parts matched motor with modern heads putting out 350+ hp for under $3000.

ZZ383 fast burn is what you seek.
5/6/2019 6:22:34 PM EDT
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Op, on building a tree fity?  Stop stop stop that's 1980's thinking.  BUY A GM CRATE MOTOR.  cheaper, it's gonna do EXACLTY what it says it's gonna do AND depending on which one you pick it WILL INCREASE the value of the Chevelle.  I and many others will NEVER buy or will severely discount a muscle car with some random "built" small block as it's always the same 1980's hotrod magazine boring ass build.    Unless.... you are getting a balanced correctly parts matched motor with modern heads putting out 350+ hp for under $3000.

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Too late .

She put a deposit down on a 350 with the local guy.  I know a couple guys that I trust that use him exclusively for their engines.

I tried and and tried to talk her into LS swapping it but she wasn't having it.  Her car, her money, I just have to put it in
5/7/2019 6:39:43 PM EDT
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Picked up the 700R4 after work today.  Needs a little TLC

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5/7/2019 6:41:44 PM EDT
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Meanwhile on the Mustang I'm slowly accumulating parts.  Will order the complete floor pan and frame rails in a couple weeks so it gets delivered when we're home on vacation.  Probably won't do much on it until we get her engine swap wrapped up.

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5/8/2019 1:34:31 PM EDT
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Oh man you're in car building heaven.

Those are some super high valve covers.  Not sure I've ever seen them that tall.  But it's been a while for me looking at a lot of engines....  The air cleaner is super cool too.  What intake is that?  And what kind of headers?

I spy some kind of 4 cylinder possibly in the background at the engine builder shop.......

Nice tranny.  Looks like that stuff is loose on there and hopefully come off pretty easily.
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/8/2019 2:40:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Oh man you're in car building heaven.

Those are some super high valve covers.  Not sure I've ever seen them that tall.  But it's been a while for me looking at a lot of engines....  The air cleaner is super cool too.  What intake is that?  And what kind of headers?

I spy some kind of 4 cylinder possibly in the background at the engine builder shop.......

Nice tranny.  Looks like that stuff is loose on there and hopefully come off pretty easily.
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It's a good place to be

They are rather tall.  I don't remember the build sheet off the top of my head and don't have a copy handy.  The headers are not included.  They're just a cheap Chinesium set he has for test running and breaking in engines.

We we still haven't decided on what specific headers for the car.  More than likely stainless long tube of one variety or another.  Anyone have recommendations?

He had lots of old oddball stuff, lots of old flathead V8s around.

Tranny isn't bad.  Appears to be solid.  $75.  We'll clean it up, put it in the car and see how it does.  Maybe rebuild it this coming winter when we pull the interior out of that car to redo it.  Will put a Painless Performance lockup kit in it.  Need to get the correct TV cable to work with the Edelbrock carb, and a new torque converter.
5/8/2019 7:23:27 PM EDT
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Your wife has good taste. 68-72 A-bodies are the best bodies.
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The worst body type is fatty with no boobs and butt, commonly referred to as the "Lena Dunham."
5/9/2019 7:03:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stealthy_Waffle:
Your wife has good taste. 68-72 A-bodies are the best bodies.
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Of course she does, she married me!  I'm not a Chevy guy by any means, but the A bodies are very good looking cars.

Shes's leaning towards a Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust, based primarily on sound.  Anyone have any feedback on them or alternatives?
5/9/2019 7:32:49 AM EDT
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Personally I’m a quieter muffler with cut outs guy.  I have had flowmasters for many years and they got old for daily driven stuff after I turned 25.  However, it never hurts to try it!  Chances are this won’t be the last system you guys install.
5/9/2019 11:38:10 AM EDT
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Personally I’m a quieter muffler with cut outs guy.  I have had flowmasters for many years and they got old for daily driven stuff after I turned 25.  However, it never hurts to try it!  Chances are this won’t be the last system you guys install.
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I'm in this category.  Getting old I guess.  I like engines that purr a little and work and look good but I'm done with loud.  LOL.

As far as headers go, I'm not sure what brand to mention but I always loved the matte white look.  My Buddy had some on his 87 Mustang GT and I think they were actually factory...  Possibly....  I thought he said....

They look a little better when they start to patina up a little.  Not so stark white.  But you get the picture.  
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/9/2019 11:46:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

We we still haven't decided on what specific headers for the car.  More than likely stainless long tube of one variety or another.  Anyone have recommendations?
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Top brands are made Kooks, JBA and Stainless Works comes to mind.  My best advise I can give is to go with a ceramic coated header.  But have your engine guy give the motor a good break in time on the stand.  You're not supposed to run new ceramic coated headers on a new engine due to higher temps during the break in cycle.  
Also, if you don't really need the high RMP scavenging effect of a long tube, go with a shorty or a mid length just because speed bumps and long tubes tend to not get along well together.  Long tubes have the cool factor, but not having all those tubes hanging low really helps in the enjoyment factor.

Go to Totally Stainless and buy their header bolts.  I've used all kinds of brands in my 40+ years of turning wrenches and building cars.  These cost a little more, but the zero headache factor is damned well worth the price of admission.  After a series of 3 or 4 good warming cycles, re-torque these and forget about it!
5/9/2019 12:26:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT:

Top brands are made Kooks, JBA and Stainless Works comes to mind.  My best advise I can give is to go with a ceramic coated header.  But have your engine guy give the motor a good break in time on the stand.  You're not supposed to run new ceramic coated headers on a new engine due to higher temps during the break in cycle.  
Also, if you don't really need the high RMP scavenging effect of a long tube, go with a shorty or a mid length just because speed bumps and long tubes tend to not get along well together.  Long tubes have the cool factor, but not having all those tubes hanging low really helps in the enjoyment factor.

Go to Totally Stainless and buy their header bolts.  I've used all kinds of brands in my 40+ years of turning wrenches and building cars.  These cost a little more, but the zero headache factor is damned well worth the price of admission.  After a series of 3 or 4 good warming cycles, re-torque these and forget about it!
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Will check those out!  The engine is fully broken in on the stand already and will be ready to go once we get it.

We may not go with long tubes, still undecided.  Definitely don't want them hanging low.  We live on a dirt/gravel road and it's 4 miles of potholes to get to pavement

Those look like some nice header bolts!  We run that same style of lock washer on our critical equipment at work.  They work damn well!  Thanks for the heads up!
5/9/2019 4:25:08 PM EDT
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I will say my favorites are the JBA since I'm running them on my '66 Mustang. Quality blew me away after growing up with Black Jacks and other cheap brands.
5/9/2019 10:47:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

Of course she does, she married me!  I'm not a Chevy guy by any means, but the A bodies are very good looking cars.

Shes's leaning towards a Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust, based primarily on sound.  Anyone have any feedback on them or alternatives?
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I really like the Borla XR-1 resonator-style muffler I put on my 4th gen F body. It has long tubes, no cats, and I had the exhaust dumped before the rear axle downward. Even with my Y-pipe setup it's very deep and refined. Not super loud at normal throttle but sounds like the apocalypse once you go WOT. Definitely would consider 2 of those with an H pipe crossover in front of it since you have all that room. Ran all the way out back would be even better for normal driving.
Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
The worst body type is fatty with no boobs and butt, commonly referred to as the "Lena Dunham."
5/9/2019 11:28:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
My best advise I can give is to go with a ceramic coated header.
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I'll second this. Bought some ceramic coated long tubes for a Barracuda I used to own about 15 years ago. Sold the car to my uncle, he still has it today and the headers still look like they're new. I had to dent in one of the tubes a bit to clear steering, and never had a problem with rust or anything on that spot. Don't remember what brand it was but it was probably either Hooker or Hedman.
Originally Posted By kabal57:
Reading the same quote or sentence some random forum member said one time doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever.
5/10/2019 5:08:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:

About 150ish lbs lighter than a SBC. A 292 narrows that gap some but talk about the ultimate sleeper/hot rod engine.

The GM in-line was produced in Brazil till around 2000 and those guys were making some beastly vehicles from them. They were multipoint fuel injected and it was common place for them to turbo them.

GM also had the Atlas series of engines which were inline 6s in their trailblazer and GMC equivalents. Awesome motors but had a short lifespan because GM want to streamline production and the Inline 6 isn't conducive to transverse drive applications.

The Ford 300 is another awesome inline as is the infamous Jeep 4.0
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Don't forget the infamous Chrysler Slant 6!
"with a Big Iron on his hip" - Marty Robbins
5/11/2019 6:54:12 PM EDT
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Don't forget the infamous Chrysler Slant 6!
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The leaning tower of power was a great engine.  They made a massive amount of those things and they would last forever.
5/13/2019 1:53:06 PM EDT
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It's funny when you get older what someone says will bring up memories that you had forgotten.  Last time I viewed a Slant 6 is I was with my Wrestling coach and I don't remember why but we were in his car going somewhere and stopped at the gas station and he had to check the oil and that's the first time and last I ever saw one of those.....

That guy was a real character.  They don't make em like that anymore.  Well not that I've seen.  He was just an oldy salty type guy that was... well you just had to know him.  He was a Gym Teacher at school.  Fanatical wrestling coach.  Use to beat the crap out of us when we lost .  Cut down trees on the weekend well into his 50's without a bucket truck.  (meaning he'd just climb up a tree and start cutting) He had a come-over all the way to the front and would ball it up in the front on top.  He'd be showing a move and it would all start to fall down and he looked like bozo the clown.  If only I had pics.
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/24/2019 11:24:37 AM EDT
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Haven't done much on the cars the last couple weeks due to work, house projects, etc...  Were on vacation the next 10 days so we are getting back on them

All of the major parts are starting to arrive for the Mustang!  Complete floor pan, floor supports, rear frame rail and inner rockers was delivered this morning.  The roof, quarter panel frames, rear quarters, panel behind window and trunk lid are getting delivered on Tuesday of next week.  Once all of that shows up I can start in on building the new body

The goal for the next few days will be to get our pole barn cleaned up, rearranged and the floor pan set up and leveled.

Stay tuned for more!

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5/24/2019 11:41:05 AM EDT
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Got my wife's 700R4 tranny on the stand so she can begin getting it cleaned up.  Will also get the Painless Performance lockup kit installed.

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5/24/2019 12:27:26 PM EDT
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With so much welding to do building the Mustang I decided to get a nice welding hood.  I've run some nice hoods before but never had my own.  After a lot of looking around I settled on the ESAB Sentinel A50.  Tried it out today when getting the welder set up to run solid wire and argon.  I have to say I'm blown away by the clarity of this hood.  Easily the clearest hood I've ever run.  Blows Speedglass out of the water.  Also the most comfortable hood I've used.  Extremely nice head gear.  Would highly recommend it for anyone wanting a nice hood!  The price isn't very nice though

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5/24/2019 12:53:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
Haven't done much on the cars the last couple weeks due to work, house projects, etc...  Were on vacation the next 10 days so we are getting back on them

All of the major parts are starting to arrive for the Mustang!  Complete floor pan, floor supports, rear frame rail and inner rockers was delivered this morning.  The roof, quarter panel frames, rear quarters, panel behind window and trunk lid are getting delivered on Tuesday of next week.  Once all of that shows up I can start in on building the new body

The goal for the next few days will be to get our pole barn cleaned up, rearranged and the floor pan set up and leveled.

Stay tuned for more!

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I see you only bought half the patch panel I recommended.
5/24/2019 1:00:55 PM EDT
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I see you only bought half the patch panel I recommended.
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I bought the whole patch panel you recommended I just went with the "some assembly required" option on it
5/24/2019 1:06:39 PM EDT
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HOt hot hot.  Looking forward to your progress.  Thank you a LOT for sharing it all with us.  It's really fun to watch.
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/24/2019 1:22:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
HOt hot hot.  Looking forward to your progress.  Thank you a LOT for sharing it all with us.  It's really fun to watch.
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Thank you and you're welcome!  Engine and tranny swap on the Chevelle will hopefully be wrapped up in the next 3-4 months.  My goal on the Mustang this year is to get the body completed.  Next year will be the suspension , rear end and brakes.  Possibly motor and trans if finances allow.

This winter we plan on getting the interior stripped out of the Chevelle, get the new seat rails welded in.  Strip, fix any rust and then repaint the interior and then properly reinstall the interior and seats.
5/24/2019 2:21:31 PM EDT
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Have you looked at the floorpan of the Chevelle to know if you'll have any surprises?  Hopefully there aren't any or at least too many.

Does your straight 6 run and how many miles on it?  I'm just curious.  We had a few of them growing up.  And so did other people in our family.  One of our Nova's we had from the beginning and then my Step brother had it eventually during college.  He drove it out to Arizona.  The story was it had over 400,000 on it but I'm not sure that could be confirmed.  It had a bunch of miles though and it was still running when he sold it.  I do believe for sure it was over 200,000k.  I think the 400,000 was my Step Dad's version of it and he was always a BSer.

I feel like cars rusted a lot worse back then though.   That thing was falling apart with rust.
John 16:33 In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
5/24/2019 2:25:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Have you looked at the floorpan of the Chevelle to know if you'll have any surprises?  Hopefully there aren't any or at least too many.

Does your straight 6 run and how many miles on it?  I'm just curious.  We had a few of them growing up.  And so did other people in our family.  One of our Nova's we had from the beginning and then my Step brother had it eventually during college.  He drove it out to Arizona.  The story was it had over 400,000 on it but I'm not sure that could be confirmed.  It had a bunch of miles though and it was still running when he sold it.  I do believe for sure it was over 200,000k.
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We haven't pulled any carpet up inside to check it.  I've had the car on a lift and didn't see anything from the underside so we are assuming it is in very good shape and will need little if any rust repair.

The car has 24k on the odometer so we assume it has 124k on it but it could be more.  It runs well but burns a little oil.  Those old straight 6's would run for a long time.  But, they never really made enough power to wear anything out

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