Posted: 11/22/2015 9:36:44 AM EDT
|
Not sure what I should get.
Looking at companies like Diablosport and SCT, I want a unit that can run off my Android device, yet isn't manufacturer specific. Both companies have a Bluetooth unit but I would have to buy multiple units to cover different makes. Diablo does make a unit that covers all makes but it is a wired monitor that mounts to the windshield. I want to run from my phone. |
|
to gain in one area you invariably sacrifice another....
I find it ironic how someone that neither manufactures or engineers the engine "knows" more about it that the ones that did. I've yet to be truly pleased with anyone's chip/module/programmer over the OEM unless there are heavy modifications and sacrifices made. As always YMMV 
|
|
Quoted:
to gain in one area you invariably sacrifice another.... I find it ironic how someone that neither manufactures or engineers the engine "knows" more about it that the ones that did. I've yet to be truly pleased with anyone's chip/module/programmer over the OEM unless there are heavy modifications and sacrifices made. As always YMMV You've never had a professional tune, have you? |
|
Quoted:
I say you'd have better features with a stand alone. Bullydog makes a good one. I just looked at their site, is this a tuner that requires you to reset your car back to factory before you can tune your next car? If you can keep tunes on multiple vehicles simultaneously then this is definitely an option |
|
Quoted:
I just looked at their site, is this a tuner that requires you to reset your car back to factory before you can tune your next car? If you can keep tunes on multiple vehicles simultaneously then this is definitely an option Quoted:
Quoted:
I say you'd have better features with a stand alone. Bullydog makes a good one. I just looked at their site, is this a tuner that requires you to reset your car back to factory before you can tune your next car? If you can keep tunes on multiple vehicles simultaneously then this is definitely an option Most tuners are VIN locked and the factory settings must be restored to the original vehicle before loading tunes onto another. Got to pay to play. |
|
Quoted:
You've never had a professional tune, have you? Quoted:
Quoted:
to gain in one area you invariably sacrifice another.... I find it ironic how someone that neither manufactures or engineers the engine "knows" more about it that the ones that did. I've yet to be truly pleased with anyone's chip/module/programmer over the OEM unless there are heavy modifications and sacrifices made. As always YMMV You've never had a professional tune, have you? Fwiw there are some platforms that make good power but have kinda predetermined upgrades paths so for the most part they don't need to be dyno tuned. Even then its still good to log every now and then to make sure things are running right. |
|
Quoted:
You've never had a professional tune, have you? Quoted:
Quoted:
to gain in one area you invariably sacrifice another.... I find it ironic how someone that neither manufactures or engineers the engine "knows" more about it that the ones that did. I've yet to be truly pleased with anyone's chip/module/programmer over the OEM unless there are heavy modifications and sacrifices made. As always YMMV You've never had a professional tune, have you? There is no way he's serious. 
Oh wait he is. 
|
|
Quoted:
There is no way he's serious.
Oh wait he is. Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
to gain in one area you invariably sacrifice another.... I find it ironic how someone that neither manufactures or engineers the engine "knows" more about it that the ones that did. I've yet to be truly pleased with anyone's chip/module/programmer over the OEM unless there are heavy modifications and sacrifices made. As always YMMV You've never had a professional tune, have you? There is no way he's serious.
Oh wait he is. There is a difference between truly having an engine "tuned" and slapping a programmer chip into it. Too often "programmers" just dumping extra fuel into an engine and therefor screwing up emissions, economy, and components. I see cars all the time that somebody sold them on some half-assed idea that'll give them "more horsepower" and sometimes it does, but at what cost? How about an Electric Supercharger instead. 
|
|
Quoted:
There is a difference between truly having an engine "tuned" and slapping a programmer chip into it. Too often "programmers" just dumping extra fuel into an engine and therefor screwing up emissions, economy, and components. I see cars all the time that somebody sold them on some half-assed idea that'll give them "more horsepower" and sometimes it does, but at what cost? How about an Electric Supercharger instead. Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
to gain in one area you invariably sacrifice another.... I find it ironic how someone that neither manufactures or engineers the engine "knows" more about it that the ones that did. I've yet to be truly pleased with anyone's chip/module/programmer over the OEM unless there are heavy modifications and sacrifices made. As always YMMV You've never had a professional tune, have you? There is no way he's serious.
Oh wait he is. There is a difference between truly having an engine "tuned" and slapping a programmer chip into it. Too often "programmers" just dumping extra fuel into an engine and therefor screwing up emissions, economy, and components. I see cars all the time that somebody sold them on some half-assed idea that'll give them "more horsepower" and sometimes it does, but at what cost? How about an Electric Supercharger instead. I'm gonna go ahead and apologize and say I didn't read your post 100% thoroughly. I actually agree with you somewhat. Canned tunes suck 99% of the time. The only time i've seen "programmers" with preloaded non-custom tunes work is on diesels such as the 12V and 24V non-CR Cummins and the Ford 7.3. |
|
Quoted:
There is a difference between truly having an engine "tuned" and slapping a programmer chip into it. Too often "programmers" just dumping extra fuel into an engine and therefor screwing up emissions, economy, and components. I see cars all the time that somebody sold them on some half-assed idea that'll give them "more horsepower" and sometimes it does, but at what cost? How about an Electric Supercharger instead. Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
to gain in one area you invariably sacrifice another.... I find it ironic how someone that neither manufactures or engineers the engine "knows" more about it that the ones that did. I've yet to be truly pleased with anyone's chip/module/programmer over the OEM unless there are heavy modifications and sacrifices made. As always YMMV You've never had a professional tune, have you? There is no way he's serious.
Oh wait he is. There is a difference between truly having an engine "tuned" and slapping a programmer chip into it. Too often "programmers" just dumping extra fuel into an engine and therefor screwing up emissions, economy, and components. I see cars all the time that somebody sold them on some half-assed idea that'll give them "more horsepower" and sometimes it does, but at what cost? How about an Electric Supercharger instead. http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/volvos-new-electric-supercharger-explained |
|
Quoted:
Did I miss where you said what kind of vehicle you have? 2005 i6 Trailblazer, would be nice to set up for towing, and for economy when traveling Dirt track Dodge Neon running on 110 race fuel, I wanna play with it and see what I come up with Eventually will be building a Coyote 5.0 for street/strip/road course. Would be nice to have a few different tunes for each, and to switch due to race/pump gas. This will be using the Motorsport harness and ECU, not the factory computer. Would be amazing if I would have different tunes to choose from and not have tobreset each vehicle to go to the next one. |
|
Quoted:
2005 i6 Trailblazer, would be nice to set up for towing, and for economy when traveling Dirt track Dodge Neon running on 110 race fuel, I wanna play with it and see what I come up with Eventually will be building a Coyote 5.0 for street/strip/road course. Would be nice to have a few different tunes for each, and to switch due to race/pump gas. This will be using the Motorsport harness and ECU, not the factory computer. Would be amazing if I would have different tunes to choose from and not have tobreset each vehicle to go to the next one. Quoted:
Quoted:
Did I miss where you said what kind of vehicle you have? 2005 i6 Trailblazer, would be nice to set up for towing, and for economy when traveling Dirt track Dodge Neon running on 110 race fuel, I wanna play with it and see what I come up with Eventually will be building a Coyote 5.0 for street/strip/road course. Would be nice to have a few different tunes for each, and to switch due to race/pump gas. This will be using the Motorsport harness and ECU, not the factory computer. Would be amazing if I would have different tunes to choose from and not have tobreset each vehicle to go to the next one. Sorry man I 'm not aware of any tuners for the Atlas straight six... You could check and see if someone with EFI Live has any experience (like Black Bear Performance) but it's not a commonly "modified" platform. However I do think they run a common ECM with other vehicles that are tuned, you might be in luck. But you're not going to find an off-the-shelf solution for the Atlas that's going to be worth a damn. Whatever you find on a shelf somewhere won't tune a Neon ECM, Trailblazer ECM, and Coyote control systems. Your best bet is to buy EFI Live or HP Tuners (after checking their support lists) and see which platforms they support, and doing it yourself. Note you'll have to buy licenses for each vehicle you tune, you can't move a tuner with a single license back and forth between ECMs/platforms. |