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7/9/2010 9:15:30 AM EDT
Ford is going to officially unveil the 2011 Explorer soon.

Here is a spy shot:



The new Explorer will be unibody, with an east/west engine and optional AWD.  Independent suspension.  It will come with either a 3.5L V6 or a 2.0L I4 Ecoboost.  

This Explorer won't be as "trucky" as the old one.  On the other hand, most of the old Explorers weren't used off road much.
7/9/2010 9:20:55 AM EDT
[#1]
So it is now an Escape in 2XL.  I think I will pass.
7/9/2010 9:26:28 AM EDT
[#2]
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So it is now an Escape in 2XL.  I think I will pass.


It is a lot bigger than an Escape, it has a usable 3rd row.  Think of it as a taller Flex.
7/9/2010 9:27:43 AM EDT
[#3]
So, it's a minivan without the utility of a sliding door?
7/9/2010 9:41:42 AM EDT
[#4]
So it's just a rebadged/bigger Ford Edge?

7/9/2010 11:20:09 AM EDT
[#5]
The current version is off-road incapable and now this one will be even worse.  You won't explore anything but mall parking lots.
7/9/2010 11:27:16 AM EDT
[#6]
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So it is now an Escape in 2XL.  I think I will pass.


Yep, not interested. That is a crossover, not a true SUV with off-road capability.
7/9/2010 11:29:35 AM EDT
[#7]
Well there goes that one.  One more SUV goes the way of the wagon.
7/9/2010 11:36:48 AM EDT
[#8]
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Well there goes that one.  One more SUV goes the way of the wagon.


I don't think this is a bad thing.

What we are seeing is a clear separation into the true off-roaders and the wagon/crossover vehicles.  Not many people need a hard-core offroading truck, and for those who do, there are Jeeps, Land Rovers, etc.  What most people do with their SUVs is go to the mall, and some might tow a trailer now and then.  At the same time, CAFE regs require big fuel economy increases, which are easier to achieve in a lighter vehicle.
7/9/2010 12:08:02 PM EDT
[#9]
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The current version is off-road incapable and now this one will be even worse.  You won't explore anything but mall parking lots.


When was the last time you saw an Explorer rock crawling 50 miles off the pavement?

They are grocery getters by design, they are designed to make soccer moms feel safe.  

Most are not even 4x4 anymore and many have gone to AWD only.  I have an AWD Explorer and it freaking rocks in the snow so I do like those but I would like to be able to turn it off to save fuel in the dry.

The one pictured above is starting to get too far from the original concept and moving closer to this crossover nonsense which is not all that great IMHO.
7/9/2010 12:36:14 PM EDT
[#10]
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The current version is off-road incapable and now this one will be even worse.  You won't explore anything but mall parking lots.


When was the last time you saw an Explorer rock crawling 50 miles off the pavement?

They are grocery getters by design, they are designed to make soccer moms feel safe.  

Most are not even 4x4 anymore and many have gone to AWD only.  I have an AWD Explorer and it freaking rocks in the snow so I do like those but I would like to be able to turn it off to save fuel in the dry.

The one pictured above is starting to get too far from the original concept and moving closer to this crossover nonsense which is not all that great IMHO.


I wasn't even addressing rock crawling.  The original ones can at least get to my property which does not require serious off-road capability.  The newest ones just don't cut it.
7/9/2010 12:43:12 PM EDT
[#11]
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little
7/9/2010 2:28:54 PM EDT
[#12]
Probably for the best, but I wish they didn't use the explorer name, and slapped it on something that can explore. The old explorer was a piece of crap anyways.
7/9/2010 2:39:34 PM EDT
[#13]
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little


+1
I love the looks of my '04
7/9/2010 4:23:45 PM EDT
[#14]
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The current version is off-road incapable and now this one will be even worse.  You won't explore anything but mall parking lots.


When was the last time you saw an Explorer rock crawling 50 miles off the pavement?

They are grocery getters by design, they are designed to make soccer moms feel safe.  

Most are not even 4x4 anymore and many have gone to AWD only.  I have an AWD Explorer and it freaking rocks in the snow so I do like those but I would like to be able to turn it off to save fuel in the dry.

The one pictured above is starting to get too far from the original concept and moving closer to this crossover nonsense which is not all that great IMHO.


I wasn't even addressing rock crawling.  The original ones can at least get to my property which does not require serious off-road capability.  The newest ones just don't cut it.


I went too far but I don't think Explorers have been really off road worthy for about 10 or 15 years now. They have been grocery getters for a while now.

Here is a pic of the concept car.
7/9/2010 4:36:25 PM EDT
[#15]
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The current version is off-road incapable and now this one will be even worse.  You won't explore anything but mall parking lots.


When was the last time you saw an Explorer rock crawling 50 miles off the pavement?

They are grocery getters by design, they are designed to make soccer moms feel safe.  

Most are not even 4x4 anymore and many have gone to AWD only.  I have an AWD Explorer and it freaking rocks in the snow so I do like those but I would like to be able to turn it off to save fuel in the dry.

The one pictured above is starting to get too far from the original concept and moving closer to this crossover nonsense which is not all that great IMHO.


I wasn't even addressing rock crawling.  The original ones can at least get to my property which does not require serious off-road capability.  The newest ones just don't cut it.


I went too far but I don't think Explorers have been really off road worthy for about 10 or 15 years now. They have been grocery getters for a while now.

Here is a pic of the concept car.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/03/2011_Ford_Explorer.jpg


Mine does exceptionally well in the snow (I went to college in Vermont) and does well in the sand at the beach here in MD. I don't do any serious trail 4wding or anything but does what I want it to offroad and I've never gotten stuck in mine.

The above picture does look like an abortion however.