Posted: 3/2/2010 5:56:59 AM EDT
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Just bought a new 2008 Honda VTX 18000F still in the crate. Last one available for my area! I'm going to pick check it out next week and the dealer and they get it ready to go. I want them to put a nice exhaust on it while its still there.
Advice for best exhaust for the money?? |
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http://www.vanceandhines.com/products/honda-vtx1800-bstagg-cf/bsstaggCF.html....... not a tuned 2 into 1 but V&H's have been making quality exhaust systems for a long time. |
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I have the vance and hines on my 1800 and I really like them.
Right now I am running them with no baffles which I would do again for sure. I think they ship them with the quiet baffles which would be the route I would go. I think it would have a good tone and pop less than it does now |
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Loud bikes are why people dislike motorcycles. If you have a loud aftermarket exhaust on your bike you are part of the problem. hey....thanks......it's nice to be a part of something. This. And at least they can hear me now when I'm next to them and maybe they will consider looking before changing lanes into me. |
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Thanks guys. I've been looking around and it seems that V&H and Cobra are the most popular like you are saying.
Now I don't want a crazy loud bike, but I want it to have a nice rumble. And I know that 1800 sounds really nice with a good set of pipes. My dad has had this bike for a few years. I'm going more for the performance exhaust vs. loud as hell exhaust! |
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Quoted: Thanks guys. I've been looking around and it seems that V&H and Cobra are the most popular like you are saying. Now I don't want a crazy loud bike, but I want it to have a nice rumble. And I know that 1800 sounds really nice with a good set of pipes. My dad has had this bike for a few years. I'm going more for the performance exhaust vs. loud as hell exhaust! if you go with the V&H's....they sound pretty good with the baffles. they still have a good tone. |
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The one that makes the least noise. ETA: that is coming from a rider. Having your bike sound like a scooter is no fun either. From a rider also. Having the drone of the exhaust pierce your skull and make you want to jam a #2 pencil into your brain via your ear is no fun either. My next bike will have a quiet exhaust. The undue attention from LE and the noise are deal breakers. I also don't want to be 'that guy' that wakes up half the neighborhood when I get home at midnight. |
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The one that makes the least noise. ETA: that is coming from a rider. Having your bike sound like a scooter is no fun either. From a rider also. Having the drone of the exhaust pierce your skull and make you want to jam a #2 pencil into your brain via your ear is no fun either. My next bike will have a quiet exhaust. The undue attention from LE and the noise are deal breakers. I also don't want to be 'that guy' that wakes up half the neighborhood when I get home at midnight. Lol, I go to work at 3:30 AM. I try not to get on it till I'm out of the neighborhood but I'm sure folks still notice. |
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Quoted: Loud bikes are why people dislike motorcycles. If you have a loud aftermarket exhaust on your bike you are part of the problem. Loud mouths are why people dislike people. If you have a loud mouth on your face you are part of the problem. (also, I do not give half a fuck what you dislike) edited to say: performance is all that matters. I'm not against loud pipes and AM against inaudible pipes, but choose performance over image every time. |
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The one that makes the least noise. ETA: that is coming from a rider. Having your bike sound like a scooter is no fun either. From a rider also. Mine sounds nothing like a scooter and I have stock pipes. Personally, I see no reason to change mine. They have a nice rumble to them, without being obnoxious. YMMV, of course. |
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The one that is in the bike has been engineered to give the best performance. Honda has good engineers. Not true, not even close. They are made to give the best performance "within regulations regarding noise and emissions" Aftermarket exhaust not only sheds weight but can add significant power increases |
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The one that is in the bike has been engineered to give the best performance. Honda has good engineers. Not true, not even close. They are made to give the best performance "within regulations regarding noise and emissions" Aftermarket exhaust not only sheds weight but can add significant power increases Not always. I remember when the RC51 came out, ppl put the most opened up exhaust on their bike and lost HP, this happened with the Suzuki TLs also. There is a fine line between exhaust and performance, also opened up exhaust usually changes the torque and RPM range, it usually moves it up and it could move it out of the bikes true power band, where the cam and fuel system was designed , in most case new pipes mean either new FI chips or carb rejetting, just pipes alone dont do much and not worth the hassle unless you go the full "tuning" route. |
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I understand that they arent the answer in all applications
Many of the manufacturers like V&H do extensive dyno testing. I dont know who the hot shit sport bike exhaust guys are nowadays but I would be amazed if one of their full systems wouldnt have real improvements |
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The one that makes the least noise. ETA: that is coming from a rider. Having your bike sound like a scooter is no fun either. From a rider also. Mine sounds nothing like a scooter and I have stock pipes. Personally, I see no reason to change mine. They have a nice rumble to them, without being obnoxious. YMMV, of course. Guess it depends on the bike, cruisers might sound better stock but a lot of sport bikes sound like a moped. |
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I know my old harley sounded like a VW bug with stock exhaust, I went with straight pipes and added some baffles. wasnt into the raspy sound.
Same with my BOV K5 Blazer. I had dual exhaust put on, Headers, no Cats, Flowmasters. It was too raspy. I added some catco cats and then a year later swapped Flowmasters with Dynamax muffs. Yea Im getting old. lol. |
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Quoted: I know my old harley sounded like a VW bug with stock exhaust, I went with straight pipes and added some baffles. wasnt into the raspy sound. Same with my BOV K5 Blazer. I had dual exhaust put on, Headers, no Cats, Flowmasters. It was too raspy. I added some catco cats and then a year later swapped Flowmasters with Dynamax muffs. Yea Im getting old. lol. right now I stuck a set of V&H's true duals on my HD 88. it's pretty much a stock engine. put a K&N on it and then the V&H's fuelpack. The true duals are long and a little smaller tube. The tone is reminiscent of my '57 with no baffles. It isn't ear bleed.....I don't like that anymore....period.....but they do bark when you have a fist full. Every once in a while I will slap the baffles in it, depending on the riding I'm doing.....but since it isn't that loud straight......they usually aren't in there long |
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The one that makes the least noise. ETA: that is coming from a rider. Having your bike sound like a scooter is no fun either. From a rider also. Mine sounds nothing like a scooter and I have stock pipes. Personally, I see no reason to change mine. They have a nice rumble to them, without being obnoxious. YMMV, of course. Guess it depends on the bike, cruisers might sound better stock but a lot of sport bikes sound like a moped. Yeah, that probably makes a big difference. Mine IS a cruiser, BTW. |
| I'm not going for glass shattering loud pipes. My dad's Honda was pretty damn quiet when he had stock pipes on it. He threw a slip on exhaust on it, but I don't really like the sound and you really dont gain any performance out of it. I'm going with the V&H. I'm going to try them out for a month or so, and if they seem too loud I will throw the quiet baffles in. |
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Try the machine stock. You might be surprise how well it rumbles with the stock pipes on it.
Aftermarket pipes sound like shit on a VTX. I don't know how many pipes I've heard on them, but they sound like shit. It's not a throaty roar, but more of a tinny sound. It DOES NOT sound like a Harley. The question is, are you a "FAG" or just "bike curious"? The "F" word. |
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Quoted: Save your money and stay with the stock pipes. The difference isn't worth the $$ unless you are more interested in the Cool Factor. just curious...is this based on experience with this bike???? most bikes see significant increases in throttle response, torque, hp in various ranges depending on type of pipes and other increases in fuel economy as well. well documented. is this bike the exception? motorcycle mechanic.........35 years.....checking in. |
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Save your money and stay with the stock pipes. The difference isn't worth the $$ unless you are more interested in the Cool Factor. just curious...is this based on experience with this bike???? most bikes see significant increases in throttle response, tourque, hp in various ranges depending on type of pipes and other increases in fuel economy as well. well documented. is this bike the exception? motorcycle mechanic.........35 years.....checking in. It will be the same "if the engineers could have gotten more power and performance they would have built it like that in the first place" answer that is so prolific here. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Save your money and stay with the stock pipes. The difference isn't worth the $$ unless you are more interested in the Cool Factor. just curious...is this based on experience with this bike???? most bikes see significant increases in throttle response, torque, hp in various ranges depending on type of pipes and other increases in fuel economy as well. well documented. is this bike the exception? motorcycle mechanic.........35 years.....checking in. It will be the same "if the engineers could have gotten more power and performance they would have built it like that in the first place" answer that is so prolific here. |
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So much for bikers looking out for bikers... Exactly. It's amazing how people buy into the "loud pipes save lives" BS. Loud pipes only get you noticed for the wrong reasons. Exactly again. I've had loud pipes in the past and usually people hear them but can't tell where the noise is coming from so they still do dumb shit next to you. I'm not against loud pipes and AM against inaudible pipes, but choose performance over image every time.
Save your money and stay with the stock pipes. The difference isn't worth the $$ unless you are more interested in the Cool Factor.
This. My dealer wanted to sell me an air intake and aftermarket pipes that would have gotten me a whopping 6 hp gain. Over a grand for 6hp? No thanks, it's a HD bagger not a racing bike. Now my old RC51 on the other hand...... |
