[ARCHIVED THREAD] - This Section... WTF? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/9/2010 3:15:00 PM EDT
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WTF is it with all the recruits, wannabes, and "I almost am" people posting in this section? It clearly says "deployed" and yet we have people here posting about "wanting to join" and "thinking about it" or "almost did" and asking about what MOS they should be. Folks for those who don't know "deployed" means "not in the United States of America and probably at war or at least in harm's way". If you got questions about joining go to the other forum, Hall of Heroes, that's more of what you're looking for. ––-RANT OFF––- |
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I am looking into the air force a fair amount now. Its my understanding that my tours will not be as long with them and that is something that my wife will perfer as will I. Does any one have any insight to any of the air force combat roles para rescue, etc
This is from the thread that spurred this rant. Its silly to be asking this question in a forum that is supposed to be here for guys and gals who are actually... um deployed. He says he doesn't want to be gone long on these deployments. Brother, my two year long tours in both theaters equals eight AF 3 months or six 4 month tours. I'm sure there are others here with longer and more tours than I've been on. I think consolidation would be the way to go. |
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Yeah as much as long deploments suck for familys what sucks even more s draging out the war. Seems like to many people just want to punch their glory card and come back with out any real commitment to winning it. I'd rather be gone for 2 to 3 years on one trip than six 6 month trips.
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Yeah as much as long deploments suck for familys what sucks even more s draging out the war. Seems like to many people just want to punch their glory card and come back with out any real commitment to winning it. I'd rather be gone for 2 to 3 years on one trip than six 6 month trips. I was going to ignore you idiotic post but it pissed me off and it is plain to see that you don't have fucking clue about the real world Your suggestion that the professional men and women serving overseas are punching tickets rather than doing every thing possible to win this damn war is naive and childish. Perhaps you would feel more at home on DU Now if you want to debate the finer points of global geopolitics, U.S. diplomatic efforts, and the current administration military strategy (or lack there of) then headed over to GD. The Deployed or Hall of Heroes forum is not the place to insult U.S service members with recycled Vietnam era Hippy crap. Monk |
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I know this wont magically fix every thing or suddenly make war easy. But for every 1 guy pounding ground there is 10 guys on a FOB working on PowerPoint's, handing out traffic tickets, or telling me I'm too dirty to eat in the chow hall cause I just got done with an op. And for every guy that's out here doing something there is another back state side who has yet to deploy and has no plan too because his whole reason for joining is to get college money.
All I'm saying is the Army is not a efficient organisation, too many are just sucking on Uncle Sam's titty and its slowing us all down. So yeah when people say "I want to join the military but I don't want to deploy for more than 6 months" it pisses me off a little bit. I want warriors not people looking for a free ride cause they did a little time in the sandbox. I want people who are here because they're patriots not because they got a sweet bonus and college money. I'm not insulting U.S. service members...........I've done my time and have the right to an honest opinion. If you've spent any amount of time in any theatre of the current war our country is involved in then you would know that there are plenty of people who sit on a FOB for 15 months playing x-box, PS3, getting fat, weak, and lazy, tarnishing the good name that we have earned our country with blood, sweat and tears, while the rest of us and our brothers in blood EARN our right to freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. What ever dude its my opinion. If the shoe fits wear it. END |
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Yeah as much as long deploments suck for familys what sucks even more s draging out the war. Seems like to many people just want to punch their glory card and come back with out any real commitment to winning it. I'd rather be gone for 2 to 3 years on one trip than six 6 month trips. Stay in your lane ... to sum up a response. |
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Yeah as much as long deploments suck for familys what sucks even more s draging out the war. Seems like to many people just want to punch their glory card and come back with out any real commitment to winning it. I'd rather be gone for 2 to 3 years on one trip than six 6 month trips. Stay in your lane ... to sum up a response. He is in his lane...........and the both of us have over 50 months combined deployment time to various sh$t holes around the world over the last 8 years. If you can't handle people voicing their opinion.........grow some thicker skin........to sum up a response |
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I know this wont magically fix every thing or suddenly make war easy. But for every 1 guy pounding ground there is 10 guys on a FOB working on PowerPoint's, handing out traffic tickets, or telling me I'm too dirty to eat in the chow hall cause I just got done with an op. And for every guy that's out here doing something there is another back state side who has yet to deploy and has no plan too because his whole reason for joining is to get college money. I agree with your comments on some of the folks down range being useless or at the least redundant. I have more respect for POGUE that deploys than someone who dodges deployments. It amazes me that so many people have no deployments after 9+ years of the GWOT. All I'm saying is the Army is not a efficient organisation, too many are just sucking on Uncle Sam's titty and its slowing us all down. So yeah when people say "I want to join the military but I don't want to deploy for more than 6 months" it pisses me off a little bit. I want warriors not people looking for a free ride cause they did a little time in the sandbox. I want people who are here because they're patriots not because they got a sweet bonus and college money. I'm not insulting U.S. service members...........I've done my time and have the right to an honest opinion. If you've spent any amount of time in any theatre of the current war our country is involved in then you would know that there are plenty of people who sit on a FOB for 15 months playing x-box, PS3, getting fat, weak, and lazy, tarnishing the good name that we have earned our country with blood, sweat and tears, while the rest of us and our brothers in blood EARN our right to freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. What ever dude its my opinion. If the shoe fits wear it. END All services have their inefficiencies and my experiences as a Marine on my second GWOT deployment in 3 years along with 2 pumps back in the mid 90's are much different than your time with "Big Army" but I haven't seen that many slackers down range. I have seen way too many folks trying to dodge deployments. Monk |
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Didn't you know basic training is in Afghanistan now? You joke but the guys we are getting I swear to god learned nothing about nothing half of them didnt QAL for crap in "real" basic. I mean what the help happened to the days of no QAL no Grad? I feel that I have to teach 5th grades here hell my 2 yr old learns better and fast then half the dipsticks. K I am done now to anyone for cheese cake? |
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Didn't you know basic training is in Afghanistan now? You joke but the guys we are getting I swear to god learned nothing about nothing half of them didnt QAL for crap in "real" basic. I mean what the help happened to the days of no QAL no Grad? I feel that I have to teach 5th grades here hell my 2 yr old learns better and fast then half the dipsticks. K I am done now to anyone for cheese cake? Right before I got out I got a Soldier that did not qualify with his weapon in basic. We were setting up class As and I was like dude where the fuck is your rifle qual and he let that slip. It fucking boggled my mind. I asked him how it was even possible and he said he tried to quit and his DI told him he cannot quit. I am pretty sure that shit comes from the top. I can't imagine an NCO coming up with an idea like that. Well no take that back. I can't imagine anyone under E-9 coming up with that idea. This 100% graduation bullshit is going to get people killed. This guy was a fucking mess. We were training doing a squad live fire and it was impossible to keep him in his lane or bounding with the rest of the team. He was falling all over himself. My saw gunner was a lanky guy and he was having no problems even with the extra weight. Some people just are not made for the military and this guy was a prime example. Graduating unqualified Soldiers should be a insta fucking boot from the Army. It's going to get people killed and the people it kills won't be the TRADOC fuckers that are responsible. |
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Quoted: Quoted: ––-RANT ON––- WTF is it with all the recruits, wannabes, and "I almost am" people posting in this section? It clearly says "deployed" and yet we have people here posting about "wanting to join" and "thinking about it" or "almost did" and asking about what MOS they should be. Folks for those who don't know "deployed" means "not in the United States of America and probably at war or at least in harm's way". If you got questions about joining go to the other forum, Hall of Heroes, that's more of what you're looking for. ––-RANT OFF––- That's because there are a shitload of stupid motherfuckers with absolutely zero situational awareness or ability to pay attention to detail on this board. I agree with everything you said. I wouldn't mind combing the two forums here. Now that there is a military section, I would rather ask deployed questions to a military audience. Like you? "DEPLOYED- Keep in touch with our members serving abroad." Doesn't say "Deployed- .mil only", it clearly states the forum is for everyone to keep in touch with you... if people have questions about wanting to serve, why not ask someone that's already there and has experience? I wouldn't trust a recruiter. Now if you'll excuse me I'm looking for the Ranstads Militia stuff so I can send a care package over to someone who is hopefully more capable of paying attention to detail than you are... but I still appreciate your service, so thanks for that. ETA: Although, to make it perfectly clear, this is NOT where I would personally ask for advice about joining or whatever, I'd save that for Team... I figure this forum is to do just as it says... keep in touch with those of you that are over there, doing what we aren't. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ––-RANT ON––- WTF is it with all the recruits, wannabes, and "I almost am" people posting in this section? It clearly says "deployed" and yet we have people here posting about "wanting to join" and "thinking about it" or "almost did" and asking about what MOS they should be. Folks for those who don't know "deployed" means "not in the United States of America and probably at war or at least in harm's way". If you got questions about joining go to the other forum, Hall of Heroes, that's more of what you're looking for. ––-RANT OFF––- That's because there are a shitload of stupid motherfuckers with absolutely zero situational awareness or ability to pay attention to detail on this board. I agree with everything you said. I wouldn't mind combing the two forums here. Now that there is a military section, I would rather ask deployed questions to a military audience. Like you? "DEPLOYED- Keep in touch with our members serving abroad." Doesn't say "Deployed- .mil only", it clearly states the forum is for everyone to keep in touch with you... if people have questions about wanting to serve, why not ask someone that's already there and has experience? I wouldn't trust a recruiter. Now if you'll excuse me I'm looking for the Ranstads Militia stuff so I can send a care package over to someone who is hopefully more capable of paying attention to detail than you are... but I still appreciate your service, so thanks for that. ETA: Although, to make it perfectly clear, this is NOT where I would personally ask for advice about joining or whatever, I'd save that for Team... I figure this forum is to do just as it says... keep in touch with those of you that are over there, doing what we aren't. Now read the OP's example. Yeah, I did... as I said, this isn't where I'd personally post questions, but I'd guess most people just assume if you're on ARFCOM, you've got time to answer questions... I'm not saying they're right or you're wrong for feeling as you do... I'm sure if I were deployed I'd look at it differently... regardless, stay safe and thanks for your service. |
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––-RANT ON––- WTF is it with all the recruits, wannabes, and "I almost am" people posting in this section? It clearly says "deployed" and yet we have people here posting about "wanting to join" and "thinking about it" or "almost did" and asking about what MOS they should be. Folks for those who don't know "deployed" means "not in the United States of America and probably at war or at least in harm's way". If you got questions about joining go to the other forum, Hall of Heroes, that's more of what you're looking for. ––-RANT OFF––- That's because there are a shitload of stupid motherfuckers with absolutely zero situational awareness or ability to pay attention to detail on this board. I agree with everything you said. I wouldn't mind combing the two forums here. Now that there is a military section, I would rather ask deployed questions to a military audience. Like you? "DEPLOYED- Keep in touch with our members serving abroad." Doesn't say "Deployed- .mil only", it clearly states the forum is for everyone to keep in touch with you... if people have questions about wanting to serve, why not ask someone that's already there and has experience? I wouldn't trust a recruiter. Now if you'll excuse me I'm looking for the Ranstads Militia stuff so I can send a care package over to someone who is hopefully more capable of paying attention to detail than you are... but I still appreciate your service, so thanks for that. ETA: Although, to make it perfectly clear, this is NOT where I would personally ask for advice about joining or whatever, I'd save that for Team... I figure this forum is to do just as it says... keep in touch with those of you that are over there, doing what we aren't. Now read the OP's example. Yeah, I did... as I said, this isn't where I'd personally post questions, but I'd guess most people just assume if you're on ARFCOM, you've got time to answer questions... I'm not saying they're right or you're wrong for feeling as you do... I'm sure if I were deployed I'd look at it differently... regardless, stay safe and thanks for your service. I think we're talking past each other...I doubt anyone on here has an issue answering questions(unless you catch me at that special time of month). This is the section to ask questions of the deployed guys––-The "Hall of Heroes" is the forum to ask generic "how hard is 92G AIT" or "Where is the nearest Air Force recruiter" type questions. The obvious confusion between the two forums is why I propose making them one forum. It's no big deal in the grand scheme of things, but the poor SA upsets my perfect little world. Kind of like the people that bring 11 items through the 10 items or less lane. |
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I know this wont magically fix every thing or suddenly make war easy. But for every 1 guy pounding ground there is 10 guys on a FOB working on PowerPoint's, handing out traffic tickets, or telling me I'm too dirty to eat in the chow hall cause I just got done with an op. And for every guy that's out here doing something there is another back state side who has yet to deploy and has no plan too because his whole reason for joining is to get college money. All I'm saying is the Army is not a efficient organisation, too many are just sucking on Uncle Sam's titty and its slowing us all down. So yeah when people say "I want to join the military but I don't want to deploy for more than 6 months" it pisses me off a little bit. I want warriors not people looking for a free ride cause they did a little time in the sandbox. I want people who are here because they're patriots not because they got a sweet bonus and college money. I'm not insulting U.S. service members...........I've done my time and have the right to an honest opinion. If you've spent any amount of time in any theatre of the current war our country is involved in then you would know that there are plenty of people who sit on a FOB for 15 months playing x-box, PS3, getting fat, weak, and lazy, tarnishing the good name that we have earned our country with blood, sweat and tears, while the rest of us and our brothers in blood EARN our right to freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. What ever dude its my opinion. If the shoe fits wear it. END I agree with this. The people that piss me off the most are the Base Command Groups from the Navy that "run the bases." They don't run shit, they just make all the operational units' lives harder. I hate trying to deal with those fucking people to get a contract fixed. I could give two shits about their "latin dancing night" or some other gay event they're wasting our tax dollars on. The next time I get an attitude from someone in that office who I outrank, I am going down there to kick the door off it's hinges and get me some Navy ass. |
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I know this wont magically fix every thing or suddenly make war easy. But for every 1 guy pounding ground there is 10 guys on a FOB working on PowerPoint's, handing out traffic tickets, or telling me I'm too dirty to eat in the chow hall cause I just got done with an op. And for every guy that's out here doing something there is another back state side who has yet to deploy and has no plan too because his whole reason for joining is to get college money. All I'm saying is the Army is not a efficient organisation, too many are just sucking on Uncle Sam's titty and its slowing us all down. So yeah when people say "I want to join the military but I don't want to deploy for more than 6 months" it pisses me off a little bit. I want warriors not people looking for a free ride cause they did a little time in the sandbox. I want people who are here because they're patriots not because they got a sweet bonus and college money. I'm not insulting U.S. service members...........I've done my time and have the right to an honest opinion. If you've spent any amount of time in any theatre of the current war our country is involved in then you would know that there are plenty of people who sit on a FOB for 15 months playing x-box, PS3, getting fat, weak, and lazy, tarnishing the good name that we have earned our country with blood, sweat and tears, while the rest of us and our brothers in blood EARN our right to freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. What ever dude its my opinion. If the shoe fits wear it. END I agree with this. The people that piss me off the most are the Base Command Groups from the Navy that "run the bases." They don't run shit, they just make all the operational units' lives harder. I hate trying to deal with those fucking people to get a contract fixed. I could give two shits about their "latin dancing night" or some other gay event they're wasting our tax dollars on. The next time I get an attitude from someone in that office who I outrank, I am going down there to kick the door off it's hinges and get me some Navy ass. "That's twice! I want some butts!" 
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| I would be more inclined to use a potential recruit posting this forum as a learning point. The learning point is ask the question to the right people and place, we all know how it is young guys believe they are special because Mom and Dad told them they are a unique and signifigant individual. So they are asking question to the guys in the suck and are entitled to because they are "special". When in fact we need to point out is that they are not special and need to ask their question in the right place to the right people. It's the whole situational awareness thing, and some other shit that I have learned that is important if you don't want you ass handed to you. |
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Folks if you're in an you haven't deployed then this thread isn't about you...think a little as you read the words I wrote. It is for the tons of other posters who are not in the military asking questions about joining and what its like. If they want to know about deployments then great, but the overwhelming majority of them fall into the category of "wah, wah, I want to join but I don't want to deploy for a year" or "what is 11B like?" or "I just went to MEPS for the Marine Corps and ...."
Seriously if you're in and you're posting here about deployments then great, you're actually following along with what the section was designed for it seems. Now stop be so damn sensitive. |
| I have an idea, how about the moderator for this section moves the bullshit questions by all the wankers asking about joining the military to the Hall of Heroes and leave the meat and potatoes right here. I would have to agree with the OP, theres no place for the other BS here. |
| I guess the tacked thread talking about recruiters might throw people off, perhaps. If you aren't willing to help future "unique" individuals who want to serve this country but may have few stupid question. I suggest maybe skipping over their threads.. Its not hard. Just raise that mouse cursor of yours maybe about an inch. Carry On . |
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If it pleases the OP. Id just like to say I don't really care if someone comes in here asking about going to basic training. There is a full military forum that keeps folks like that out..You can get your little tonka tank under that picture and your name then go in there and make this same rant about how much you wanna slap around people who are joining the airforce for the joyous 3 month tours instead of the fact they get way better food.
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If it pleases the OP. Id just like to say I don't really care if someone comes in here asking about going to basic training. There is a full military forum that keeps folks like that out..You can get your little tonka tank under that picture and your name then go in there and make this same rant about how much you wanna slap around people who are joining the airforce for the joyous 3 month tours instead of the fact they get way better food. Then again I am so short right now I can hook up a sling load with the shithook on the ground... If it pleases you... Its called "everything has a place". This isn't the correct place for asking about if I can bring my cell phone to basic training. Nor is it the place to ask what job in the Nebraskan Coast Guard gives me the best chance at combat.. I don't think I said I want to slap around 3 month deployed Air Force guys... but we all eat the same chow halls now that you mention it and their's wasn't any better than the the Army ran on BAF. |
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=75&t=1045567 That's the link with info on how to get into the .mil forum. It's in team, so I'm pretty sure you have to pony up the $24 for a membership to get this extra perk |
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Banana_sandwhich I know this wont magically fix every thing or suddenly make war easy. But for every 1 guy pounding ground there is 10 guys on a FOB working on PowerPoint's, handing out traffic tickets, or telling me I'm too dirty to eat in the chow hall cause I just got done with an op. And for every guy that's out here doing something there is another back state side who has yet to deploy and has no plan too because his whole reason for joining is to get college money. All I'm saying is the Army is not a efficient organisation, too many are just sucking on Uncle Sam's titty and its slowing us all down. So yeah when people say "I want to join the military but I don't want to deploy for more than 6 months" it pisses me off a little bit. I want warriors not people looking for a free ride cause they did a little time in the sandbox. I want people who are here because they're patriots not because they got a sweet bonus and college money. I'm not insulting U.S. service members...........I've done my time and have the right to an honest opinion. If you've spent any amount of time in any theatre of the current war our country is involved in then you would know that there are plenty of people who sit on a FOB for 15 months playing x-box, PS3, getting fat, weak, and lazy, tarnishing the good name that we have earned our country with blood, sweat and tears, while the rest of us and our brothers in blood EARN our right to freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. What ever dude its my opinion. If the shoe fits wear it. END FOBBIT HATER! 
I left the FOB 3 times in 13 months and somehow I managed to get shot in the back, get hit with schrapnel from 13 mortors/rockets, shoot over 300 warning shots, find a tunnel the insurgents dug under the perimeter wall, play scene commander for a car bomb that killed 11 and injured 30 which resulted in my getting awarded a Bronze Star and an Army Commendation Medal with "V" device. Some Fobbits are Fobbits through no choice of their own, so you can't fault them for being behind the wire. |
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Banana_sandwhich: All I'm saying is the Army is not a efficient organisation The Army is an efficient organization. It's all the asshole officers and NCOs that think they are smarter than the regulations and policies and exert their own flawed shit into the process. |
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The Army is an efficient organization. It's all the asshole officers and NCOs that think they are smarter than the regulations and policies and exert their own flawed shit into the process. You say it is efficient, then you go on to cite one of the exact reasons I beleive it is not efficient. 
As far as me being a hater, don't worry about it. Clearly the shoe doesn't fit. 
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So I'm guessing that makes me a wannabe considering I post here and I haven't deployed yet..... you havent deployed? seriously?CAsoldier I swear sometimes me and you are long lost brothers, we somehow have been in all the same units, and have friends in all the same units, and ask all the same questions. But seriously to add on to your comment, this goes to all soldiers who don't deploy. What good are you? The Army exists to go to war and defend the country, so if you don't go to war then what good are you? If you haven't had your chance yet its one thing but if you have been in 4 years and you are just going through the motions, get off of your ass and go to war or get out. I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing E-5 and above with no deployment patch. |
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So I'm guessing that makes me a wannabe considering I post here and I haven't deployed yet..... you havent deployed? seriously?If you haven't had your chance yet its one thing but if you have been in 4 years and you are just going through the motions, get off of your ass and go to war or get out. I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing E-5 and above with no deployment patch. Hell, I am fucking sick of being a E5 with no deployment patch.
Of course, I pinned on E5 in a different branch in 1997, got out in 2000, came back in at the start of this year, picked a unit that hadn't deployed since 2005 so I thought they'd be on the on-deck circle, and picked a MOS that was allegedly high-need for OCONUS (fucking recruiter.... )...so I'm trying.
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So I'm guessing that makes me a wannabe considering I post here and I haven't deployed yet..... you havent deployed? seriously?CAsoldier I swear sometimes me and you are long lost brothers, we somehow have been in all the same units, and have friends in all the same units, and ask all the same questions. But seriously to add on to your comment, this goes to all soldiers who don't deploy. What good are you? The Army exists to go to war and defend the country, so if you don't go to war then what good are you? If you haven't had your chance yet its one thing but if you have been in 4 years and you are just going through the motions, get off of your ass and go to war or get out. I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing E-5 and above with no deployment patch. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that guy is an E3 or below. It's not their fault, they'll get their time. |
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So I'm guessing that makes me a wannabe considering I post here and I haven't deployed yet..... you havent deployed? seriously?CAsoldier I swear sometimes me and you are long lost brothers, we somehow have been in all the same units, and have friends in all the same units, and ask all the same questions. But seriously to add on to your comment, this goes to all soldiers who don't deploy. What good are you? The Army exists to go to war and defend the country, so if you don't go to war then what good are you? If you haven't had your chance yet its one thing but if you have been in 4 years and you are just going through the motions, get off of your ass and go to war or get out. I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing E-5 and above with no deployment patch. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that guy is an E3 or below. It's not their fault, they'll get their time. I'm not hating on E-3's waiting for their turn, I just can't stand the people that have been in the military for years and years and have just never gone. Just collecting a paycheck to go through the motions Obama style. Every time I walk by a captain or a staff sergeant with no deployment patch my blood pressure goes up. My last deployment I went with a lot of people that had never gone before of very high rank. It would get annoying. I'm sure some of you guys have heard of a "sand table brief" You stand around a table full of sand with toy cars and little army men and you set up your SOP's for the mission that day. Whoever is in the scout truck normally gives the sand table brief as far as convoy ops went in my sector. And in my truck we just took turns giving the brief it was pretty much repeat what we always say sort of thing. And we always had this female E-6 who had never deployed before try to butt in and add some jewel of information she had learned in her tradoc training it was always some horrible idea, and no one would say anything to her. So I mentioned it to my TC in passing how she was always adding stupid shit to the end of my briefs. So the next day I'm giving the brief and I see her kind of mosey over to the table and I'm thinking "oh shit what blabber am I going to hear today" I try to pretend to ignore her so I can finish the brief quickly with out her cutting in. But she did anyway so I just sat politely as she says 3 or 4 things that are going to make my day way harder, but all of a sudden My TC who is an E-6 also comes out of no where and just starts yelling "Are you interrupting his brief!" she starts to stutter something out "No I was just explaining to everyone that when we were at Fort Hunter Ligget that we did things like this.." My TC's eyes bulged out of his head at this point, "You will not ever interrupt a sand table briefing again with some training you learned from someone who has never even been here!" She stormed off and pouted after that. We also had a really bad problem with a guy who re-class from the navy, somehow I'm not sure how he did it but he made it to the rank of MSG and he hadn't deployed. And our first sergeant had a deployment patch on but he kept saying really stupid shit all the time so we investigated, and it turns out he did a 12 month stint as rear det on the coast of the U.S. somewhere for 4th ID as MCT sending them Connex's so somehow through some army loophole that authorized him to wear that deployment patch. |
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So I'm guessing that makes me a wannabe considering I post here and I haven't deployed yet..... you havent deployed? seriously?CAsoldier I swear sometimes me and you are long lost brothers, we somehow have been in all the same units, and have friends in all the same units, and ask all the same questions. But seriously to add on to your comment, this goes to all soldiers who don't deploy. What good are you? The Army exists to go to war and defend the country, so if you don't go to war then what good are you? If you haven't had your chance yet its one thing but if you have been in 4 years and you are just going through the motions, get off of your ass and go to war or get out. I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing E-5 and above with no deployment patch. You have the option NOT to wear it...I sometimes don't. Also if you were in another branch and come over to the Army you wouldn't be able to wear one even if you have 2-3 tours in.... The old sayin....don't judge a book by the cover... |
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So I'm guessing that makes me a wannabe considering I post here and I haven't deployed yet..... you havent deployed? seriously?CAsoldier I swear sometimes me and you are long lost brothers, we somehow have been in all the same units, and have friends in all the same units, and ask all the same questions. But seriously to add on to your comment, this goes to all soldiers who don't deploy. What good are you? The Army exists to go to war and defend the country, so if you don't go to war then what good are you? If you haven't had your chance yet its one thing but if you have been in 4 years and you are just going through the motions, get off of your ass and go to war or get out. I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing E-5 and above with no deployment patch. You have the option NOT to wear it...I sometimes don't. Also if you were in another branch and come over to the Army you wouldn't be able to wear one even if you have 2-3 tours in.... The old sayin....don't judge a book by the cover... So you work 14-18 months sometimes more, away from your family, your friends, and your home. You are doing all of this in defense of our great nation, at the end of it you are given the honor to wear a patch symbolizing this, and you don't wear it... That doesn't make sense. Also the former mariness in my platoon all wore their deployment patches from when they were in the marines. |