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3/25/2010 7:15:38 PM EDT
I'm thinking about joining the Army or Marines. There's just two things I have to do: pay off college loans and get in better shape. My main problems are I'm very skinny for being 6' 4'', I can't run like crap and upper body strength. I'm looking for workouts that will help me become agile and give me stamina. I also want the work outs to resemble duties I will be doing while deployed. Any words of advice from you guys?
3/25/2010 7:16:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Just go.  You'll be fine.
3/25/2010 8:02:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Just go.  You'll be fine.


Agreed
3/26/2010 2:29:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Well, start running and start doing pushups. The only way you"ll get good at either is to do them.

I agree with the other two responses though. I sucked at both when I joined (and I was a similar build as you going in). You'll get to where you need to be quick.
3/26/2010 3:53:05 PM EDT
[#4]
A lot of people having been saying just join. Is BCT not really as hard as people say?
3/26/2010 4:53:55 PM EDT
[#5]
BCT is like summer camp with guns.... pretty much if you look at the minimum standards to start basic (l17 sit-ups within one minute, 13 push-ups within one minute, one-mile run in 8½ minutes.) they aren't expecting much out of you to begin with.

It doesn't hurt at all to be able to do a lot better then that, of course.
3/26/2010 5:04:43 PM EDT
[#6]
Run.  Start out short distance and work your way up.  Then you can also do fartleks.  You might want to throw on a 45lb pack and do a road march with it.  As others have said you really don't need to do anything like that unless you are just god awful and can't do 30 pushups.  Basic will get you in shape.  You only really need to worry if you are horribly weak.
3/26/2010 5:05:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Are you aware that the military will pay off your student loans?  It's called the Student Loan Repayment Plan.  If you had to pay off school debt before joining, most people wouldn't make the age cut-off by that point.
3/26/2010 6:28:45 PM EDT
[#8]
The mile run in that time is what is killing me. Last time I did a timed mile it was 13 or 15 minutes. I could only run a 1/4 mile before my side was killing me. Please tell me more about the Student Loan Repayment Plan.
3/26/2010 7:19:24 PM EDT
[#9]
No way to get better but practice. my two mile was about 18 min before the military but they'll teach you how to run. Just run a 2-mile at your own pace every other day and up the speed till you can do it in 14 min. Since you're not insanely fat basic won't be a problem, it's too easy.
3/26/2010 10:22:56 PM EDT
[#10]






  • Do pushups. Every day, unless you're doing more than 150-200 a day. Vary them with close-grip, Perfect Pushup bars, with your feet elevated, etc.












  • Do flutter kicks. If you don't know what they are, Google it. Leg-spreaders in between sets are good for endurance.












  • Do sprints to increase your run time, coupled with jogging in-between.









  • Load up a backpack with some weight and go hiking for a few hours. One a week would be fine. Maybe ruck marches aren't you thing, oh well. You'll learn to like them.












  • Lift some weights. Nothing fancy, just basic compound lifts with barbells* AND at the very least start taking whey protein before and after workouts. You will gain weight, get stronger and recover faster, which lets your do PT with higher frequency.








  • Always make sure to warm-up and cool-down properly before doing PT, and perhaps more important than anything: DRINK WATER. DRINK WATER. DRINK WATER. At least 1 gallon a day. Your body will thank you. And don't short change yourself on getting sleep. Muscles grow during periods of rest. Lots of PT coupled with no sleep = overtraining. You don't want to kill yourself. By the way, did I mention you should drink water?






*bench press, squats, power cleans are probably the 3 most useful/important
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3/27/2010 7:37:12 AM EDT
[#11]
powersticks,

Google should bring up good info on the Student Loan Repayment Plan.  What I know is that the military will pay off up to $65,000 in school loans.  I'm not sure what all kinds of loans qualify, but if you have government-subsidized loans like the Stafford loan and PLUS loan, those are definitely eligible.  This is something that needs to be specified in your contract when you sign.  The way it works is that they will pay 33 1/3% of the principal loan balance every year after the first year of service.  So the first year, nothing is paid, but by the end of your 4th year of service, your loans are paid off, and all that remains is the interest which accumulated.  You can also enter a period of deferred repayment during your service, which will stop interest from accumulating.  The only snag about the SLRP is that you cannot get it and also the GI Bill.  So basically you chose whether to get money for future education, or previous education.  I already have a Bachelor's and halfway to my Masters, so SLRP is the easy choice between the two.  Definitely bring this up when you talk to a recruiter.

Also, for running, one thing you might want to think about is working on your cardiovascular endurance in ways other than just running.  I'm a cycling enthusiast, so my cardio is pretty top-notch.  When I started running to train for BCT, I found that 6.5min miles were not too hard - just that my calves and some other muscles used in running but not so much in cycling needed some work.  Try the exercise bike, and also do some leg presses to work on your quads.  Since you say it's your side that kills you - I'm guessing your problem is mostly cardiovascular.  

For push-ups, check out the website hundredpushups.com - They have a really well laid-out program to help increase your push-up performance.  I'm also skinny and never had much in the way of upper body strength, but I am definitely seeing results with this program.  On top of their plan, try to really max yourself out on each 'push up' day.  Do sets of fewer and fewer reps until you can only do 2 reps - then move to your knees and do them that way until you struggle to do 3 per set.  Rest a minute between sets.  You will see results for sure.  Make sure to take your whey protein shakes before and after.
3/28/2010 10:19:28 AM EDT
[#12]
crossfit
3/28/2010 10:26:06 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
A lot of people having been saying just join. Is BCT not really as hard as people say?


It's physically hard for people that aren't in shape.

The purpose is to turn civilians into basic soldiers.  Training never ends in the army.  It's not like BCT is supposed to make you an elite killing machine.
3/29/2010 8:13:44 AM EDT
[#14]
No BCT is not hard.  I finshed BCT at Fort Sill at the end on Jan.
Before I shipped I ran a lot, did a basic work out; push ups, sit ups, ect.
Also do a lot of walking with a back pack and weights inside. That will get you ready for the road marches.
Drink lots of water.
Start getting use to sleep about 5 hours a night.
3/30/2010 6:54:15 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
crossfit


That is what I have been doing to prep for Basic and WOCS. I hope it pays off