Posted: 2/28/2010 7:09:35 AM EDT
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anyone got a good class on CIED and React to Poss IED? Im about done trying to "Log into CALL with my CAC" I fucking hate it. I cant do it or it cant be done from home. Ive been on hold with ako for a week and day.
Im supposed to give those two classes this weekend, and have no training aids or resources besides google. IM me for my AKO address. Thanks in advance DR |
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I can SEE the ISAF Jan 2010 handbook, i just cant get it! 11B / 1151s I got the Task cond and standards from the 1sg, finally. Ill just wing it I guess. My advice is: Don't get got. Failing that, KILL THE GUY THAT DID IT. Way too many people don't look for the triggerman or filmer ... just think *where would I film this from* and light that area up. I get so pissed when catastrophic kills occur and no one even bothers looking for the enemy because they're too concerned with what just happened. Have guys designed as a medical team, but all gunners, etc shouldn't be looking at the blown up vehicle. Pretty much everything is common sense man, an IED can be anything, usually a pressure cooker packed with HME, some daisy chained mortar rounds, or double/triple stacked anti tank mines....nowadays it seems they are all buried directly underneath what they want to hit, especially on roads. I would plan a hell of a lot more on how to react to an IED than worrying about what they look like... I know pressure plates are popular many places aswell but seriously, sometimes people are just going to get blown to pieces, and it sucks. All our IEDs were from command det, triggerman within 20-50 meters directly below...as soon as it's blown he runs like a mo fo....so yeah, don't always assume he's up high. One of our platoons had a guy get hit but they didn't realize it at the time, 30 minutes after an hour long slogfest and after going back into the kill zone and searching with white light (dark by this time) they found his body hanging in the trees. You can teach all the by the book classes in the world and it'll maybe help a little....make sure to practice every contingency. |
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thanks for the advice.
Let em back up and say, Ive been blown up before. This isnt my first trip down range, I just cant stand when you get a NG E6 or E7 teaching a class like a NG E6 or E7. I wanted to have some pertinant data. Some hands on shit. My PL came thru and I got some good slides to teach off. thanks everyone. |
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My advice is:
Don't get got. Failing that, KILL THE GUY THAT DID IT. Way too many people don't look for the triggerman or filmer ... just think *where would I film this from* and light that area up. I get so pissed when catastrophic kills occur and no one even bothers looking for the enemy because they're too concerned with what just happened. Have guys designed as a medical team, but all gunners, etc shouldn't be looking at the blown up vehicle. Pretty much everything is common sense man, an IED can be anything, usually a pressure cooker packed with HME, some daisy chained mortar rounds, or double/triple stacked anti tank mines....nowadays it seems they are all buried directly underneath what they want to hit, especially on roads. I would plan a hell of a lot more on how to react to an IED than worrying about what they look like... I know pressure plates are popular many places aswell but seriously, sometimes people are just going to get blown to pieces, and it sucks. All our IEDs were from command det, triggerman within 20-50 meters directly below...as soon as it's blown he runs like a mo fo....so yeah, don't always assume he's up high. One of our platoons had a guy get hit but they didn't realize it at the time, 30 minutes after an hour long slogfest and after going back into the kill zone and searching with white light (dark by this time) they found his body hanging in the trees. You can teach all the by the book classes in the world and it'll maybe help a little....make sure to practice every contingency. QFT. Had a 155mm rigged to roughly 25 pounds of HME blow a chunk off our cougar. Gunners we WAAAAYYYY too interested in the actual blast. Turns out, command wire was only run about 400 meters into a ditch/mound of dirt with reeds and shit growing on it. On the birght side, we found that fucking video. 
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