Posted: 7/2/2009 10:26:00 AM EDT
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So I'm back home here, just visiting the folks. My mom apparently doesn't know what a router is; she just has a DSL modem. Would it be possible for me to somehow "daisy-chain" my laptop to her desktop and share her Intarweb pipeline? I checked, and the DSL modem only has one output, so no dice there. I'm kicking myself for not packing my own router... Thanks in advance. |
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Quoted: I'm gone now, but still interested in the topic.Well, if your mom's computer is connected directly to a DSL modem and said modem doesn't have a firewall then her computer is so virus ridden that you won't want to connect. Do her a favor and buy her a router, then both of you can plug into it. For example, when my first laptop shit the bed, I pulled the 20GB hdd, bought an enclosure, and made a 20GB external hard drive out of it. When I plug it into a computer's USB port, it shows up essentially like a flash drive. Is there any reason I can't do that "computer-to-computer," so to speak? |
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I'm gone now, but still interested in the topic.
Well, if your mom's computer is connected directly to a DSL modem and said modem doesn't have a firewall then her computer is so virus ridden that you won't want to connect. Do her a favor and buy her a router, then both of you can plug into it. For example, when my first laptop shit the bed, I pulled the 20GB hdd, bought an enclosure, and made a 20GB external hard drive out of it. When I plug it into a computer's USB port, it shows up essentially like a flash drive. Is there any reason I can't do that "computer-to-computer," so to speak? Hmm... I don't believe so, at least, not easily. Anything is possible. But i don't think out of the box windows will do it. You could always use windows Internet Connection Sharing. The USB into the DSL modem will be the "internet" half and use a crossover cable from her ethernet jack in her computer to your laptop. ETA - a quick google found this http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-342-connecting-two-computers-with-a-usb-cable |
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Does the DSL router have the USB port on the back of it? Could both the USB and the RJ45 ethernet be used at the same time? I vaguely recall trying this once upon a time with a cable modem and i want to say it DID work. However, in her case it is likely her ISP only issues one IP address, so the question is moot. |
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Quoted: To the best of my knowledge/recollection, the DSL modem did not have a USB port on it whatsoever... the USB port to which I was referring was any of the free USB ports on my mom's computer.Does the DSL router have the USB port on the back of it? Could both the USB and the RJ45 ethernet be used at the same time? ETA: So the proposed topology would be.... Intarweb ––––––> DSL modem ––––––> mom's desktop ––––––> my laptop where the first connxn would have been RJ11 or RJ14, the second connxn would have been RJ45, and the third connxn would have been a USB 2.0 cable (usbA-to-usbA). |
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Also found this:
Ordinary USB cables must not be used to connect two computers directly to each other. Attempting to do so can electrically damage the computers! However, special USB cables designed for direct connection exist that can be used safely. You may prefer this option over others if your computers lack functional Ethernet network adapters. |
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Quoted: Ooh, interesting/awesome.Also found this: Ordinary USB cables must not be used to connect two computers directly to each other. Attempting to do so can electrically damage the computers! However, special USB cables designed for direct connection exist that can be used safely. You may prefer this option over others if your computers lack functional Ethernet network adapters. I also found this link while browsing the Wikipedia entry for [plain Jane ol'] USB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB |
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Article on the topic from as far back as Jan. 1991: |
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Ooh, interesting/awesome.
Also found this: Ordinary USB cables must not be used to connect two computers directly to each other. Attempting to do so can electrically damage the computers! However, special USB cables designed for direct connection exist that can be used safely. You may prefer this option over others if your computers lack functional Ethernet network adapters. I also found this link while browsing the Wikipedia entry for [plain Jane ol'] USB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB Yeah I saw usb_net in the Linux Kernel documentation, but I don't think the OP nor his mother use it. |
^ lol... good call.  Found this over at the Wikipedia entry for the USB standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Device_classes
<snip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Related_technologies The USB Implementers Forum is working on a wireless networking standard based on the USB protocol. Wireless USB is intended as a cable-replacement technology, and will use ultra-wideband wireless technology for data rates of up to 480 Mbit/s. |
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since when does a router block virus from downloading to a computer? firewall or not the end user infects the computer. stuff like blaster didn't require the user to do anything but plug in the ethernet cable but xp has been patched to stop blaster for a good 5 years |
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re: USB to USB, there is a dongle thing that can be used to do this. I've never used it, only seen it advertised.
with firewire you can connect directly. With my Macs they show the other systems harddrive, I can boot from them even 
re: firewalls and viruses. The first level of defence on a windows system is to not plug it directly into the internet. viruses are not only installed by users, there have historically been numerous exploits in its open services. See some of the articles about how an unprotected XP system survives < 4 minutes on a open connection. All consumer systems should be behind a router/firewall solution of some kind. If you are running a server than YMMV. re: patched XP. That is true. But to get the patches when using an older XP install disk you have to plug it into the network. Guess what happens if there isn't a firewall? 
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