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3/22/2009 7:05:21 PM EDT
Anyone here have one or used the software?
Microsoft has a free 30 day trial for it.. Interested in opinions on it.
3/22/2009 7:11:04 PM EDT
[#1]
You should be able to download a 120-day trial of it. I am in the process of building up hardware to try it out myself.
3/22/2009 7:26:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
You should be able to download a 120-day trial of it. I am in the process of building up hardware to try it out myself.


Yup it is 120 thx for that... I have a 2ghz socket 939 with 2gig of ram that I am thinking about using.
3/23/2009 4:03:43 AM EDT
[#3]
to do what?

store files?

printer server?

3/23/2009 7:26:09 AM EDT
[#4]
WHS is a great platform.  I've got WHS on my HP MediaSmart server.   3TB.. works great.  


-Luke
3/23/2009 7:44:49 PM EDT
[#5]
try punching yourself in the face, that will be similar to using WHS


i know it has been fixed, but i will always remember it as "the production, retail software that had a KNOWN ISSUE where it would randomly corrupt your data, took several months to get fixed"

linux distributions can fill the "home server" role 10x better than WHS
3/24/2009 3:49:20 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
try punching yourself in the face, that will be similar to using WHS


i know it has been fixed, but i will always remember it as "the production, retail software that had a KNOWN ISSUE where it would randomly corrupt your data, took several months to get fixed"

linux distributions can fill the "home server" role 10x better than WHS


which distro?
how much time will i have to spend monkeying with software?

for the application that WHS serves.. it does a fair job and couldn't be more simple to operate.
for network and system situational awareness, i keep a linux distro around.. but it's not as simple to operate nor economically viable for similar functions.
-L
3/24/2009 3:58:05 AM EDT
[#7]
i know originally it did corrupt data,  but i would hope they would have that fixed now.

i use fedora (samba) to share files on my home network
3/24/2009 5:58:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
try punching yourself in the face, that will be similar to using WHS


i know it has been fixed, but i will always remember it as "the production, retail software that had a KNOWN ISSUE where it would randomly corrupt your data, took several months to get fixed"

linux distributions can fill the "home server" role 10x better than WHS


Stop it with the FUD. The corruption issue was limited to purposely shared files from the WHS when edited directly by certain programs by a client machine. This has been fixed by rollup 1. This issue did not affect computer backup or remote access. And seriously, if you are waiting for the perfect OS that goes to RTM without a single flaw, then you should stop using computers.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946676
3/24/2009 6:40:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
try punching yourself in the face, that will be similar to using WHS


i know it has been fixed, but i will always remember it as "the production, retail software that had a KNOWN ISSUE where it would randomly corrupt your data, took several months to get fixed"

linux distributions can fill the "home server" role 10x better than WHS


Stop it with the FUD. The corruption issue was limited to purposely shared files as opposed to files that shared themselves? from the WHS when edited directly by certain programs
Windows Vista Photo Gallery
Windows Live Photo Gallery
Microsoft Office OneNote 2007
Microsoft Office OneNote 2003
Microsoft Office Outlook 2007
Microsoft Money 2007
SyncToy 2.0 Beta
Intuit QuickBooks
uTorrent

gee, its not like many people use Photo Gallery or Quickbooks, those are some pretty obscure apps

by a client machine. This has been fixed by rollup 1. This issue did not affect computer backup or remote access. And seriously, if you are waiting for the perfect OS that goes to RTM without a single flaw, then you should stop using computers.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946676


the primary objective of WHS is to share and store data. the problem affects, wait for it, SHARING AND STORING DATA. they should have tested storing pictures on WHS and then trying to edit them with Vista Photo Gallery - this is not some weird configuration or usage pattern. it was billed as a more secure and reliable storage device, which it clearly was not. if the Apache Foundation releases "Apache Streaming Music and Video Server 2010" as a final version for public consumption, and it fails to stream music or video, would that not be a total clusterfuck?

i am really sick of microsoft shitting out half-baked products and abusing their customers
3/24/2009 6:50:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
try punching yourself in the face, that will be similar to using WHS


i know it has been fixed, but i will always remember it as "the production, retail software that had a KNOWN ISSUE where it would randomly corrupt your data, took several months to get fixed"

linux distributions can fill the "home server" role 10x better than WHS


which distro?
how much time will i have to spend monkeying with software?

for the application that WHS serves.. it does a fair job and couldn't be more simple to operate.
for network and system situational awareness, i keep a linux distro around.. but it's not as simple to operate nor economically viable for similar functions.
-L


http://tinyurl.com/dbc4nn

in all seriousness, you may be right insofar as there are some really non-technical folks out there who just need that Microsoft feel to get anything accomplished on a computer. i think that the market of people who care enough to get a "home server" are savvy enough to figure out Ubuntu.
3/25/2009 5:24:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
the primary objective of WHS is to share and store data. the problem affects, wait for it, SHARING AND STORING DATA. they should have tested storing pictures on WHS and then trying to edit them with Vista Photo Gallery - this is not some weird configuration or usage pattern. it was billed as a more secure and reliable storage device, which it clearly was not. if the Apache Foundation releases "Apache Streaming Music and Video Server 2010" as a final version for public consumption, and it fails to stream music or video, would that not be a total clusterfuck?

i am really sick of microsoft shitting out half-baked products and abusing their customers


Microsoft certainly has its shares of goofs (Vista release for example) but to condemn one of their better products especially now they have resolved the corruption is a dis-service to those looking for a simple solution for file sharing, media streaming (not corrupted), automated client backup (not corrupted), computer monitoring (not corrupted), and remote access (not corrupted). And for the file sharing case, it only occurred if you opened a shared file directly with one of those applications and the WHS had more than one hard drive that was shared as a single volume and even then it was erratic. The workable solution was to copy it locally, edit, and then upload back. I guess that might be a little too difficult for some people but if they can't do that workaround, they also have no business trying to bootstrap a linux distro. If WHS was only a file server, then hella yea I would say use a linux distro. But it's not. Sorry, you can't convince me otherwise.
3/26/2009 12:15:15 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
the primary objective of WHS is to share and store data. the problem affects, wait for it, SHARING AND STORING DATA. they should have tested storing pictures on WHS and then trying to edit them with Vista Photo Gallery - this is not some weird configuration or usage pattern. it was billed as a more secure and reliable storage device, which it clearly was not. if the Apache Foundation releases "Apache Streaming Music and Video Server 2010" as a final version for public consumption, and it fails to stream music or video, would that not be a total clusterfuck?

i am really sick of microsoft shitting out half-baked products and abusing their customers


Microsoft certainly has its shares of goofs (Vista release for example) but to condemn one of their better products especially now they have resolved the corruption is a dis-service to those looking for a simple solution for file sharing, media streaming (not corrupted), automated client backup (not corrupted), computer monitoring (not corrupted), and remote access (not corrupted). And for the file sharing case, it only occurred if you opened a shared file directly with one of those applications and the WHS had more than one hard drive that was shared as a single volume and even then it was erratic. The workable solution was to copy it locally, edit, and then upload back. I guess that might be a little too difficult for some people but if they can't do that workaround, they also have no business trying to bootstrap a linux distro. If WHS was only a file server, then hella yea I would say use a linux distro. But it's not. Sorry, you can't convince me otherwise.


Well spoken LH-AR.  

The initial product was buggy.. but MS got the issues addressed and corrected.     For the $$... you get a LOT of integrated systems.   HP's MediaSmart server is a perfect execution of a retail product that uses low-cost hardware and the MS software.  

I am normally not an MS fan, especially in enterprise networking.. they can't possibly predict the capabilities of the most determined idiot- They DID however get a product out that I use.  

I'm thinking of putting an MHS at each of my work sites
..   still working on the integration piece to sync the backups of my laptop/desktops, etc and keep my music available.. globally.  


-L
3/26/2009 12:23:24 PM EDT
[#13]
I set it up as a trial for a customer in a 9 station workgroup.



Kicks ass.



3/26/2009 12:45:18 PM EDT
[#14]
Is there any reason why Windows Home Server can not run Utorrent?

This way it can handle the Bit Torrent downloads and free up any other machine that originally were running it.
3/26/2009 1:56:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Is there any reason why Windows Home Server can not run Utorrent?
This way it can handle the Bit Torrent downloads and free up any other machine that originally were running it.


Depends on where you set your security stack..
My WHS doesn't get anywhere near a P2P outside of my system enclave.

-L


3/26/2009 6:20:05 PM EDT
[#16]
People with MSDN subs can now download WHS.

Just a FYI.
3/29/2009 12:36:55 AM EDT
[#17]
I have my server set up, a 650gig hd on the way(46$ delivered was the last one in stock )
The hardest part so far was figuring out what software to install on each computer on the network.( WHS folder on the dvd has a setup program for each computer.)
I used vnc for the second computer and installed everything remotely.
Set up a profile and shared network folder for each user (2 so far) will be 3 as of next Wednesday, (Daughter got a 4.0 so she gets a new netbook)
I will update if there is anything new.. But so far is pretty straight forward..
All Computers running xp pro and home..
4/1/2009 9:57:43 PM EDT
[#18]
wow got the new drive today. shut down dropped in checked bios to make sure it was there.. start up hit add and less than one minute was ready to go.. pretty slick
4/1/2009 10:59:30 PM EDT
[#19]


Fantastic job you have done.

Now all you need is a small box running windows media center connected to the TV.