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11/11/2016 3:05:30 AM EDT
I have to upgrade my work server due to a conflict with a program. I currently use 2008 and was told by the programmer who designed the software I'm having the conflict with that I needed at least 2008R2. I have 7 desktops in house and 4 laptops. There are no assigned desks (more employees than computers and they work in shifts). Each computer has a Remote Desktop CAL so any employee can log in to the server from any station or laptop to access programs, email, etc.  The server is the only computer with anything other than an operating system on it.

I use a hosting company for the website and company email.

In doing a little research, it appears 2008r2 and 2012 are about the same price. I also realize I'm going to need to purchase more CAL's since the ones I have won't transfer over.

Any suggestions on which one to go with? Pro's and con's? As I understand it, 2008r2 is based off windows 7 and 2012 is windows 8.  I have no experience with 8, but I loved 7 and 10 seems "ok". I should also add that this is the first and only server I've ever managed. Learned how to set it up by doing research online.

Thanks in advance for any input.
11/12/2016 6:52:42 PM EDT
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Windows 2012 R2.

Work with a consultant, professional services company, or VAR (unless you know someone with at least professional level expertise in this area) to evaluate all the details relevant to your business and circumstances.  This way you will avoid any of the details and trouble spots that can cause disruption to your business.

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11/12/2016 8:16:18 PM EDT
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Also look at a open value license from Microsoft for windows server standard and your RDS cals. It will be for server 2016 but you get downgrade rights I believe all the way to 2008 R2. A vendor like CDW or a local Microsoft partner can help you with that.
11/12/2016 8:49:49 PM EDT
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Thank you for the replies. I'm going to take the advice and get a professional to deal with it.
11/15/2016 2:26:56 AM EDT
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Windows 2012 R2.

Work with a consultant, professional services company, or VAR (unless you know someone with at least professional level expertise in this area) to evaluate all the details relevant to your business and circumstances.  This way you will avoid any of the details and trouble spots that can cause disruption to your business.

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In addition, RDS on 2012R2 *requires* Active Directory, that means he's going to need an RDS server, and a DC at a minimum. This means he needs an AD deployment and profile migration as well.
11/15/2016 7:52:59 AM EDT
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Work with a consultant, professional services company, or VAR (unless you know someone with at least professional level expertise in this area) to evaluate all the details relevant to your business and circumstances.  This way you will avoid any of the details and trouble spots that can cause disruption to your business.



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In addition, RDS on 2012R2 *requires* Active Directory, that means he's going to need an RDS server, and a DC at a minimum. This means he needs an AD deployment and profile migration as well.
Just call Enigma he can help you with all of this
11/17/2016 2:42:10 AM EDT
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Windows 2012 R2.

Work with a consultant, professional services company, or VAR (unless you know someone with at least professional level expertise in this area) to evaluate all the details relevant to your business and circumstances.  This way you will avoid any of the details and trouble spots that can cause disruption to your business.

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In addition, RDS on 2012R2 *requires* Active Directory, that means he's going to need an RDS server, and a DC at a minimum. This means he needs an AD deployment and profile migration as well.
Just call Enigma he can help you with all of this

Hmm.  Just off-handedly guessing, I'd probably quote between $7-10k for the whole project.  Obviously a proper discovery and design phases would need to happen; and that number assumes it doesn't involve enough 3rd party software vendors to require a project manager, if PM needs to be tasked, I'd add another 30%.
11/17/2016 9:39:59 PM EDT
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2008?

Yesterday I got an email that some of our clients are bucking against our forthcoming security enhancements because they're on 2003 and want us to hold off several months.
11/18/2016 8:15:24 PM EDT
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Also you should virtualize everything, and you should have some tier'd storage.  In your case I save money by doing Hyper-V + StorageSpaces with 80/20 HDD/SDD tiering.
11/19/2016 9:42:14 AM EDT
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Ayup.  This is precisely why I recommended a professional services company like "Enigma's Computers & Shit"!  The devil is in the details.

You're becoming a sales animal.



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Windows 2012 R2.

Work with a consultant, professional services company, or VAR (unless you know someone with at least professional level expertise in this area) to evaluate all the details relevant to your business and circumstances.  This way you will avoid any of the details and trouble spots that can cause disruption to your business.

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In addition, RDS on 2012R2 *requires* Active Directory, that means he's going to need an RDS server, and a DC at a minimum. This means he needs an AD deployment and profile migration as well.

11/19/2016 10:00:40 AM EDT
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Billable!

This is good advice OP.  This is a perfect time to evaluate such a move if you are confident that your business will grow and require your IT resources to scale with it.

This recommendation is exactly what I'd do (despite being a more traditional data center infrastructure guy until just about the last 6 months or so....).  

The performance is extraordinary.  Almost spectacularly so when you factor-in and realize the up-front savings and TCO relative to a more traditional VMware+SAN deployment.  Enigma can detail out all the specifics much better than I can since he is an SME in this space and this is his line of business.  Suffice it to say that it's something you should seriously consider.

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