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1/13/2016 10:50:33 PM EDT
I've been kicking around the idea of spending more time in Linux, but I have two email accounts under Exchange/Office 365 that I need to monitor.  Thunderbird doesn't seem to work with it, and I couldn't figure out how to get it to work in Evolution.  Are there any good solutions?
1/14/2016 2:51:27 AM EDT
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You have to use the MAPI plugin for Evolution.
1/14/2016 3:01:39 AM EDT
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At my last corporate job, I just used offlineimap to sync a local Maildir to my exchange inbox.  So I could use mutt.  Worked fine, more or less.  Not sure if they had an extra imap api enabled or what though
1/14/2016 4:15:27 PM EDT
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Do I have to figure out the server address to get that to work?
1/14/2016 6:54:58 PM EDT
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  Do I have to figure out the server address to get that to work?

Unless Evolution supports auto discover now, yeah you will have to figure this out.

You chose to run Linux, put on your big boy pants and figure it out.
1/17/2016 10:39:45 PM EDT
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Now you know why every "you losers should forget about Windoze and Apple (u guys r gay haha!) and go with linux, a real mans operating systum!" post in every computer related thread is met with a number of us saying "Please don't do this.  It's not a good option for people who aren't willing to invest in the time and know-how to get things to work, often at the driver and OS code level...."

In fact, there's one right above this post.



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I've been kicking around the idea of spending more time in Linux, but I have two email accounts under Exchange/Office 365 that I need to monitor.  Thunderbird doesn't seem to work with it, and I couldn't figure out how to get it to work in Evolution.  Are there any good solutions?
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1/17/2016 10:51:05 PM EDT
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Now you know why every "you losers should forget about Windoze and Apple (u guys r gay haha!) and go with linux, a real mans operating systum!" post in every computer related thread is met with a number of us saying "Please don't do this.  It's not a good option for people who aren't willing to invest in the time and know-how to get things to work, often at the driver and OS code level...."

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Now you know why every "you losers should forget about Windoze and Apple (u guys r gay haha!) and go with linux, a real mans operating systum!" post in every computer related thread is met with a number of us saying "Please don't do this.  It's not a good option for people who aren't willing to invest in the time and know-how to get things to work, often at the driver and OS code level...."

In fact, there's one right above this post.



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I've been kicking around the idea of spending more time in Linux, but I have two email accounts under Exchange/Office 365 that I need to monitor.  Thunderbird doesn't seem to work with it, and I couldn't figure out how to get it to work in Evolution.  Are there any good solutions?




I run a number of Linux "appliances" (purpose-built servers),  so I decided to boot a Chromebook in Linux.   Yeah...  that's fun.   It works great, but no iMessage, no Exchange, Office only via the web (yes, I know about LibreOffice), etc.   It's really not for the faint of heart or those easily discouraged.
1/17/2016 11:18:03 PM EDT
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Want to know the best way to run an exchange server? Pay Microsoft $4/mo per mailbox to do it for you.
1/17/2016 11:53:44 PM EDT
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This ^.
1/18/2016 12:40:01 AM EDT
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I run a number of Linux "appliances" (purpose-built servers),  so I decided to boot a Chromebook in Linux.   Yeah...  that's fun.   It works great, but no iMessage, no Exchange, Office only via the web (yes, I know about LibreOffice), etc.   It's really not for the faint of heart or those easily discouraged.
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Now you know why every "you losers should forget about Windoze and Apple (u guys r gay haha!) and go with linux, a real mans operating systum!" post in every computer related thread is met with a number of us saying "Please don't do this.  It's not a good option for people who aren't willing to invest in the time and know-how to get things to work, often at the driver and OS code level...."

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I've been kicking around the idea of spending more time in Linux, but I have two email accounts under Exchange/Office 365 that I need to monitor.  Thunderbird doesn't seem to work with it, and I couldn't figure out how to get it to work in Evolution.  Are there any good solutions?




I run a number of Linux "appliances" (purpose-built servers),  so I decided to boot a Chromebook in Linux.   Yeah...  that's fun.   It works great, but no iMessage, no Exchange, Office only via the web (yes, I know about LibreOffice), etc.   It's really not for the faint of heart or those easily discouraged.


Want to know how I deliver applications to a Chromebook?  XenApp.  There isn't a compatibility problem if the App isn't actually there.  As you said, Linux is good as an "appliance" so I treat Workstations running Linux the same way, as an end-point to stream something to.
1/18/2016 12:41:52 AM EDT
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Indeed.  That or pay me 4 dollars a month per mail box to do it for you.  Well more accurately the team of goddamn Exchange gurus that I got super cheap because they were all out of work and are now working for me to do it for you.
1/18/2016 12:52:18 AM EDT
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Want to know how I deliver applications to a Chromebook?  XenApp.  There isn't a compatibility problem if the App isn't actually there.  As you said, Linux is good as an "appliance" so I treat Workstations running Linux the same way, as an end-point to stream something to.
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Yeah, but that can be spendy...  
1/18/2016 1:06:05 AM EDT
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Want to know how I deliver applications to a Chromebook?  XenApp.  There isn't a compatibility problem if the App isn't actually there.  As you said, Linux is good as an "appliance" so I treat Workstations running Linux the same way, as an end-point to stream something to.



Yeah, but that can be spendy...  


and here you thought Linux was going to save you money.....


I've said it before, and I will say it again; TCO of Linux is significantly higher than Windows.  Those who actually figure out that shit for a living will tell you so, and is the primary reason that Linux can not and will not ever break out of the Appliance market it has settled into.
1/18/2016 1:22:19 AM EDT
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and here you thought Linux was going to save you money.....


I've said it before, and I will say it again; TCO of Linux is significantly higher than Windows.  Those who actually figure out that shit for a living will tell you so, and is the primary reason that Linux can not and will not ever break out of the Appliance market it has settled into.
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QFT...  

However, you could argue that tablets and phones (and Chromebooks) aren't really "appliances"...
1/18/2016 4:49:45 PM EDT
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I spent a couple hours with a knowledgeable friend trying to get it sorted out.  Never did get it to work.  This just reinforces in my mind that Linux is for people that want to show off how they got an OS running on their toaster because reasons, not because it can be used every day as a viable desktop OS.



Is Netflix running reliably on it yet?  How about Amazon Prime video?
1/18/2016 5:08:33 PM EDT
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I spent a couple hours with a knowledgeable friend trying to get it sorted out.  Never did get it to work.  This just reinforces in my mind that Linux is for people that want to show off how they got an OS running on their toaster because reasons, not because it can be used every day as a viable desktop OS.

Is Netflix running reliably on it yet?  How about Amazon Prime video?
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Netflix: No
Amazon Prime: No

As for it not working.  Evolution does not support auto discover very well at all and on top of that you're trying to use Office365 autodiscover which is a whole different animal than regular internal domain autodiscover.  The basic answer is, it's not going to work and you're just going to have to live with it, unless you want to use IMAP; which is stupid because then you don't get calendars, contacts, or anything else.

Also, your assessment of Linux as a desktop OS is spot on.
1/18/2016 9:12:31 PM EDT
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I want to start using Linux more too, but I went the other route. I enabled HyperV on my Windows box and built a small (2g/15g) CentOS7 VM. It is enough for me to poke about, do things and gain eperience. It also has the advantage of being a VM where I can set arbitrary snapshot points for rolling back from OOPS moments.



You can go the other way and run an instance of Windows with Outlook as a VM on your Linux box too. Either way works.




IMHO, trying to jump in with both feet and have a stable, useful Linux desktop is a recipe for frustration, heartache, burning eyes and a reversion to a more friendly OS. <been there, done that>




Did you mention which distro you are using? Mint and Ubunto seem to be the ones most compatible with the linux-curious crowd.
1/19/2016 5:27:18 PM EDT
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I don't know about Amazon Prime, but I watch Netflix in Linux all the time. Works just fine in Chrome.



 
1/19/2016 5:57:29 PM EDT
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I want to start using Linux more too, but I went the other route. I enabled HyperV on my Windows box and built a small (2g/15g) CentOS7 VM. It is enough for me to poke about, do things and gain eperience. It also has the advantage of being a VM where I can set arbitrary snapshot points for rolling back from OOPS moments.



You can go the other way and run an instance of Windows with Outlook as a VM on your Linux box too. Either way works.





IMHO, trying to jump in with both feet and have a stable, useful Linux desktop is a recipe for frustration, heartache, burning eyes and a reversion to a more friendly OS. <been there, done that>





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Ubuntu.  I was originally use a usb drive as a live disk, but for some reason it refused to update anything in that state.  I switched to VirtualBox under Windows 10 and suddenly everything would install and update, but when I tried to connect to my mailserver it said the ports it needed were in use already or blocked or something, I forget which.  That's when I decided I no longer cared.




I still have the VM in case I feel like messing with it in the future.