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5/1/2010 1:19:00 PM EDT
Hey Guys ––

I took this yesterday and I'm looking for some critique. The story was over superstitions before a game and this player listened to an iPod on a certain song on repeat. I told him to act as if he were going to the national championship and that's what he did.

What do you think?

The one thing I saw was cutting off the hands and a bit of the arm, but I think it tightens the photos.

5/1/2010 1:57:13 PM EDT
[#1]
lighting created some hard shadows.

looks posed....should be more candid.....posing before the big game is counter-productive to concentration.

I would have lit the background more.....and had his attention more undefined.

Still a good pic though.

I'm no pro....so don't take what I say to seriously.....just my thoughts...
5/1/2010 9:22:53 PM EDT
[#2]
I don't know nothing but...
The face looks like the subject so I would shoot/crop to it.  Maybe crop off center
I think you are a litle tight at the top of the pic. The hair looks cramped.
good intensity and I like the deep shadows pulling the eye away from the face.

You had to set the stage for me so I would understand the pic.
I would have been hard pressed to see what you wanted me to without you saying what it was.
Now that I know I can find it but I wish it had been easier.
setting up your model yealds better results.
You have a lot to say, right before a game, listening to music, focus and intensity.

Maybe go more of an eye of the tiger pose.  Shot from a low angle and pointing up and into the eyes of the model that are staring down at the camera, forearm muscles tense, hands gripping the music player like talons. Team symbol I the background lit by secondary lighting.  

It's a good pic.  

5/1/2010 11:07:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I don't know nothing but...
The face looks like the subject so I would shoot/crop to it.  Maybe crop off center
I think you are a litle tight at the top of the pic. The hair looks cramped.
good intensity and I like the deep shadows pulling the eye away from the face.

You had to set the stage for me so I would understand the pic.
I would have been hard pressed to see what you wanted me to without you saying what it was.
Now that I know I can find it but I wish it had been easier.
setting up your model yealds better results.
You have a lot to say, right before a game, listening to music, focus and intensity.

Maybe go more of an eye of the tiger pose.  Shot from a low angle and pointing up and into the eyes of the model that are staring down at the camera, forearm muscles tense, hands gripping the music player like talons. Team symbol I the background lit by secondary lighting.  

It's a good pic.  



Thanks for the comments (and Echo too).

I was trying to play with lighting. I was shooting with one flash off camera. I got the "easy" shot of him sitting there so that I had something, but I wanted to try something a little more creative I guess I could say.

I was really hoping that his iPod would be a classic or iTouch or something so that I could get him holding that in the foreground and listening. Instead it was one of the little Shuffles that was tiny. I like the idea for the shot you suggested, but with such a tiny music player it would have looked like he was holding a white stick. Way to go Apple.

Here's two other shots. The first was just one with no flash or flash bounced off the ceiling. The second one was my trying the flash directly on the subject. I thought the second got a little too harsh on the shadows. The first is just "blah" to me...



5/3/2010 8:02:25 AM EDT
[#4]
You should use some sort of diffuser if you want to go direct OCF. Umbrellas are cheap. Get a convertible one that can be used in a standard bounce config, or a shoot through.

I've got a few photos of a convertible umbrella on a stand here: http://www.ocabj.net/?p=775

Here's a sample of bounced umbrella flash. Key light was at the model's 10 o'clock (12 o'clock being directly facing the camera lens), about 7 ft high and angled such that the bounce was coming back down on her. Note: Side light was at the model's 2:30 on a stand with a Sto-fen Omnibounce, direct flash at about 4 feet high and through a glass paned door (about 2-stops of light less than the key light):



5/4/2010 7:53:28 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
You should use some sort of diffuser if you want to go direct OCF. Umbrellas are cheap. Get a convertible one that can be used in a standard bounce config, or a shoot through.

I've got a few photos of a convertible umbrella on a stand here: http://www.ocabj.net/?p=775

Here's a sample of bounced umbrella flash. Key light was at the model's 10 o'clock (12 o'clock being directly facing the camera lens), about 7 ft high and angled such that the bounce was coming back down on her. Note: Side light was at the model's 2:30 on a stand with a Sto-fen Omnibounce, direct flash at about 4 feet high and through a glass paned door (about 2-stops of light less than the key light):

<a href="http://www.jocabphoto.com/rostislava_savchuk/e305bd342" target="_blank">http://www.jocabphoto.com/img/v3/p811324226-4.jpg</a>



this seems like great advice but I need a little less talky and a little more picture sharing  I mean a picture is worth a thousand words after all.
5/4/2010 8:10:03 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
this seems like great advice but I need a little less talky and a little more picture sharing  I mean a picture is worth a thousand words after all.


Click on the photo. It links to a portfolio.

5/4/2010 5:13:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You should use some sort of diffuser if you want to go direct OCF. Umbrellas are cheap. Get a convertible one that can be used in a standard bounce config, or a shoot through.

I've got a few photos of a convertible umbrella on a stand here: http://www.ocabj.net/?p=775

Here's a sample of bounced umbrella flash. Key light was at the model's 10 o'clock (12 o'clock being directly facing the camera lens), about 7 ft high and angled such that the bounce was coming back down on her. Note: Side light was at the model's 2:30 on a stand with a Sto-fen Omnibounce, direct flash at about 4 feet high and through a glass paned door (about 2-stops of light less than the key light):

<a href="http://www.jocabphoto.com/rostislava_savchuk/e305bd342" target="_blank">http://www.jocabphoto.com/img/v3/p811324226-4.jpg</a>



this seems like great advice but I need a little less talky and a little more picture sharing  I mean a picture is worth a thousand words after all.


Uh oh.. that sounds like money. I've always avoided flash and lighting, but I've been playing with a free flash. I really prefer sports/journalistic shooting, but that isn't always the case.

Nice site and picture! I'm going to watch the video and look at it more in depth later on.

Thanks!
5/4/2010 6:58:41 PM EDT
[#8]
try this:

http://www.honlphoto.com/servlet/the-28/David-Honl-LIGHT-DVD/Detail

The Honl speed grid would have made those pics considerably better.

You can also join/read this group:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/792934@N22/