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3/21/2010 10:34:29 AM EDT
Looking to upgrade from my canon s3is. I have been looking at dslr's from canon and nikon, since I dont have any lens so I'm not stuck on a brand. I manly do outdoor pics but my gf has a 2yr old that will no doubt be getting some camera time soon. I'm not sure how much money I'm wanting to spend at the moment but i did look at a canon 7d spending that much on a camera would limit my lenses for a little while but if that is deemed the best I could bite the bullet I guess and unless buying used would save me a whole bunch of money I would rather go with a new body as you have a warranty and know what it has been through. some lens suggestions would be great too. Thanks in advance and here is a few pics from the s3is to give you an ideal of what type of pics I normally take.









3/21/2010 11:01:08 AM EDT
[#1]
Without a budget, this could vary so much...

I don't know the Nikon lineup, so I'll let someone else comment on that (I personally believe you can't go wrong with either brand), but with Canon here's what I'd suggest:

Learning/on a budget:
If you plan on using any "creative" modes (where you control the shot more than the camera does), I'd skip the rebel series and try to find a new 40D or 50D. The biggest benefit is the addition of a second wheel on the back that lets you control some settings much easier/faster than on a rebel.

If you want to treat the camera as a P&S with interchangeable lenses and don't plan on shooting in manual, AV or TV modes, then go for the Rebel and use the extra funds to buy more/better lenses.

For lenses, if you want high quality at (relatively) affordable prices... my favorite two "affordable" zoom lenses are the 17-40L and the 70-200L. Both are f/4, and for staying on a budget, skip the IS version of the 70-200. These lenses are head and shoulders above the consumer lenses... in build, features and quality. Also, those two lenses will give you a good zoom range to start with.

If budget isn't important, you could start off with better equipment. I'd suggest upgrading the lenses first, as they will be with you much longer than a body will.
3/21/2010 11:43:59 AM EDT
[#2]
I did stop at Best buy and hhgregg to kind of get a feel for the camera's. I did like the feel of the 50D it came with a EF 28-135mm IS lens for somewhere between 1200-1300 dollars which would leave me some money to spend on an extra lens and other extras.
3/21/2010 1:11:20 PM EDT
[#3]
7D is over kill for those photos. It is a high speed type of camera with a focus system designed for sports.  If your into landscape, go with a good used 5D and L glass. Focus is not as fast, but image quality and DOF control is much better with a full frame chip.  If the budget allows, go whole hog on a 5D MkII.
3/21/2010 4:54:04 PM EDT
[#4]
with the 2yr old I think I will get some moving pics in the near future .
3/21/2010 6:28:41 PM EDT
[#5]
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with the 2yr old I think I will get some moving pics in the near future .


But by the time they are old enough to move too fast for a 5D, the 7D will be worn out and needing to be replaced too! 5D is fast enough, just not as many focus zones and quite as quick.  I've got the 5D and the 7D. 5D gets a regular work out and the 7D makes it to the soccer games, snow skiing, water skiing (this coming summer) and sports like that. You'll love either!
3/22/2010 1:28:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Good Afternoon BigTater,

Might suggest a Pentax K7 or perhaps K20 instead of the normal looks into the Canikon rigs.  While Pentax glass has increased a bit in the last six months, the weathersealed bodies of either would make a terrific choice for an outdoorsman who is taking a lot of landscapes.  Father has the 7D and fullframe 5D, I like them both and can't argue with the autofocus speeds but you'll find either Pentax body with good glass will be more than quick enough for tracking two year old movements indoors or out.  

Also, tend to prefer Pentax slightly saturated colors over most Canon glass for landscapes and wildlife.  Was a Nikon man, but found a little more "bang-for-the-buck" with Pentax as well.  Go grab and play with a few since the ergos are so different, you might even have an opinion on which DSLR has the quieter shutter!

Since your asking; I'd choose the K7 to grow with, WR18-55 kit great to start with and perhaps the 10-20 wideangle Sigma for your outdoors.  If your budget allows, grab the tack sharp 50-135 DA* and the 40mm pancake for walkaround/street/kid shooting.  Consider the battery grip as well.

Otherwise, it would be the Canon D50 body only with the fixed 50mm /1.4 and Tok 12-24mm/f4 would be my way to go.  Again, budget allowing definitely the 70-200L/f4 as well with a battery grip if it's not a size issue.  Have fun looking!