Posted: 1/19/2008 8:17:00 AM EDT
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ive been trying to convince my wife to let me buy a ps3, and im selling my guitar to a coworker and i wanna use the money to buy one. my buddy just got one and has been playing COD4 and cant wait to play! ive always been a playstation guy, but a couple friends say 360 is better. now im NOT TRYING TO TROLL here, but i need help on this stuff. ive heard about the red ring of death and stuff for the 360, and ps3 sales arent as high as i thought they would. can someone give me advice on what to go with, preferably someone who maybe has both systems? i dont want people telling me "XBOX SUCKS!" or "PS3 SUCKS!" just some pro cons. |
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I have both, the PS3 seems like its a better system, graphics on games made for it, loading speeds etc. Now if there were just more games made to use the whole potential of it. Havent had the RROD with the XBox but the whole COD4 thing on Live has me a little ticked off. But its been great and having it longer than the PS3 and owning more titles for it still gets it more use than the PS3. Buy both best advice I can give. 
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360 has more games currently and has a lot more people playing live. 360 graphics are better too. ive been looking into a PS3 for a blu ray player because it looks like blu ray is about to win the format wars. i ask people who have both and they all rave about the 360 over the PS3. |
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I spent awhile debating between the two systems too, 360 is supperior at the moment game wise lots of releases coming out starting in march for the PS3 though. What sold me on the PS3 was bluray, built in wifi, free online and reliability, also Sony current has a promotion going on $100 off on first purchase if you apply for their credit card and use it on Sonystyle.com. MS is suppose to have a new 360 package out this summer thats more reliable and may have WiFi included if I'm still interested in it by then I may pick that up, but by summer the 360 may not have enough exclusive titles to interest me. |
No way, sorry but theres just no way if you had both would you be able to say that. Its got the same graphics on all the cross titles but things like Drakes Fortune and Heavenly Blade and even Assasins Creed is alot smoother looking and way less blocky than the 360. The PS3 smokes the 360 on graphics. |
If you can afford it I'd recommend you get both as they both are good platforms. I bought a 60GB unit this time last year, and took advantage of the warranty extension for RROD to get a XB360 cheap, and I like both of them...though the XB360 is getting more use right now. If you like FPSs, games designed by and for western players, and online play I'd go with a XB360. If you like Japanese games, and want Backwards Compatibilty with your PS games, and/or are interested in Blu-Ray then get a PS3 (remember the 40GB unit doesn't play PS2 games). Right now, the XB360 has an edge on games, but a lot of big PS3 games are supposed to come out this year, like MGS4 and Killzone 2. |
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thanks all for your input. i cant buy both systems right now...just dont have the funds. im fighting with the old lady to let me get ps3 as it is, she says no because i leave for iraq in a little less than 2 months and shes says to wait till i get back. i like the ps3 games, and i like the fact that i dont have to pay for online play. whats the big differences between the 40gb and 80gb, seeing as how Tiberius just mentioned that the 40 doesnt play ps2 games, which i have alot of. |
40 isn't backwards compatible with ps2 games, doesn't have as many USB ports, and doesn't come with a game. I got the 40 since I don't play many of my old ps2 games anymore. I'm fine with less usb ports I don't plug anything in except to charge the controller, motorstorm didn't appeal to me so I use the saved money to buy 160 gig hd for it. |
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Buy whatever system you want. Then buy the 4 yr warranty on top of that. Anytime the thing screws up, you'll get a new one. My roomie bought a PS2 from Circuit City years ago and got the warranty. He took it back a month before the warrant expired and got store credit and bought a PS3. I've had good experience with Best Buy's warranty as well. My Yamaha receiver had an internal wire loose and they took care of it at no cost to me. |
The 40GB PS3 is compatible with 97% of PS1 games, but not compatible at all with PS2 games. The 80GB PS3 is compatible with 97% of PS1 games and 75% of PS2 games. If playing your old PS2 games is of high imporance and you don't mind buying used, scour eBay for a lightly used 60GB PS3. It's got 97% compatibility with both the PS1 and PS2 and is thus far the best flavor out there even though you can't buy them new anymore.
+1 I have both, a 60GB PS3 and a 65nm 360 Elite. In no way does the 360 look better than the PS3 or have a better framerate. The only games that's true on are crappy ports from last spring and summer. Newer games like COD4, which were made from the ground up on both, are better on the PS3. For instance, PS3 COD4 has better textures, better lighting, slightly better framerate, more reliable online service, and you can play against up to 24 people online versus a maximum of 18 on the 360. The only thing the 360 version has over the PS3 version is a little bit better anti-aliasing. And yeah, the 360 has the larger library at the moment, but that's only going to last another few months. There is NOTHING announced for the 360 that I want, and meanwhile there are a pile of games announced for the PS3 that I'm looking forward to. After getting a chance to compare COD4 on both side by side, I will definitely be buying the PS3 versions of games that are available for both. Bottom line: I think it's worth getting both if you can because both have some killer exclusives, and the newer 360s are a lot less likely to blow up on you thanks to the move to 65nm. But if you can only get one, definitely, definitely make it the PS3. Especially if you have an HDTV, in which case the Blu-ray player becomes invaluable if you like movies. |
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I have both. I play my PS3 (60GB) pretty much daily and use it as a media center most days as well. My launch-day 360 still works, but it isn't even plugged in right now. I guess that says enough. First-year games for any console are generally crap. PS3 was no exception, though recent titles are kicking ass. 360 still has a better library, but I'm unaware of even one title coming out for it this year that I want to play, except for the multiplatform Grand Theft Auto IV. The list for PS3 this year is righteous ... though be advised that I'm a dirty whore for Metal Gear. If I had to, I would buy a second PS3 just to play Metal Gear Solid 4 and, when I'm done, shoot that box up with .45 and 9mm just to prove my love.  PS3 got some crappy ports this year, which was disappointing. That's turning around, though, with multiplatform titles starting to shine on the black box. The advertising and marketing were also jacked-up, so great recent exclusives (like Ratchet, and Uncharted) didn't end up selling well. This has contributed to the perception problem. Then again, sales don't mean much. Kane & Lynch popped through a million copies, yet its reviews were crap. It just had a huge marketing budget and got mentioned a lot because of some drama in the gaming world. No press is bad press, I guess. I noticed that some DivX-encoded videos (Entourage Season 4) looked much better on the PS3 than on the 360. Maybe I needed to tweak some settings, but there was a significant difference in blockiness, etc, with the same source material. I also had to resort to burning the files to a CD to watch them on the 360. Dropping them on a thumb drive didn't actually work for me on the 360, though it was easy to copy the files to the internal drive on the PS3. Pilot error is a possibility, but I'm usually pretty good with this sort of thing. I like that I can just slap on a USB drive to expand my PS3's storage, and I'm planning on upgrading the internal drive with this laptop's drive when I retire it. I can copy whatever I need to/from it onto pretty much whatever media I'd like. I also have a PSP, and the PS3-PSP interaction is sweet. You can control your PS3 with your PSP over the internet or home network via WiFi. This includes watching movies stored on the PS3. (I haven't tried watching something streamed to my PS3 from my Mac yet, but it should work.) This doesn't include playing PS3 games, though. The costs for Xbox Live sound like a minor expense at first ... but you're not going to just have that console for a year. I'm five years in, good for $250. $100 of that is on the 360. No, wait, that's $150 of $300, since I've already paid for the next year. Great. By the time the 360 can be expected to be replaced with the next generation (call it 3-5 years from now) it would add up to roughly the current cost of the box itself. The PSN implementation from a user perspective still needs work. Most games don't let you send/receive messages from friends who are not currently playing that game yet. When we link up in Call of Duty, it's often an exercise in frustration. This is expected to improve massively later this year, when Home (Sony's answer to Live) is released. Time will tell if those hopes are well-founded, but I think it will at least be decent. Another thing that has bugged me about the Xbox (and the Wii) is the points system for downloadable content. I resent having to buy in at prearranged amounts, when the content I want conveniently costs less ... leaving change essentially in their pockets. PSN has a clunky interface for adding funds, but costs are in dollars, and you can spend the exact value of your purchase at that time (though I think there's a $5 minimum). The ads on on the 360's dashboard are a personal irritation. If they were all related to new downloadable content, that'd be cool (if excessive in size), but I don't need yet more ads for theatrical movies or Axe body spray. I'd recommend the 60GB PS3 if possible for back-compat reasons. New PS2 games are still getting released, and will be for a while. They can be tough to find now, and will probably be even tougher to find later, unless Sony releases yet another version that brings it back (doubtful). If you have a PS2 library, there should be a way to find out if your favorite titles are supported by the 80GB box. Skip the spare controller for now, since the new controllers with rumble will be released here while you're deployed. They are very, very nice. I don't really care about rumble, but the implementation feels great and enhanced Uncharted nicely. (Only a few games support it so far, but hell, the things aren't even released in the US yet.) If you have an HDTV / receiver with an HDMI connection, use it. Cheap cables should be fine. The PS3's DVD upscaling is flat-out righteous. I haven't done a side-by-side test with the 360, so maybe it does a great job, too. I know I bash on the 360 a bit in this post -- it's late -- so don't get me wrong. You can have a metric shitton of fun for a long time with a 360, and I don't fault people for buying one console or another. Getting too into the console war is just joining a marketing department for zero pay; any of the companies would gladly take your money for a cardboard box and a piece of string. I've had a lot of fun with my 360, but it's been doing time as a stand for my PS3 for a little while now, and I don't see that changing very soon. |
| I have a 360 now and I am getting a PS3 when I get my new TV more so for BR and then MGS4, KZ2, and Socom 4. If you like online games, Xbox Live has the most people on it. If you leave in 2 months, I would wait until you come back, they are predicting a price drop by summer. |
I agree. |
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I've had both. My 360 broke. Now I have a PS3, I should have gotten one a long time ago (not really, the sweet stuff is just starting to come out). Online is just as good as xbox live, and free. More memory than a standard 360, has a browser, plus tons of other shit. Graphics are better on PS3, its an extremely capable machine. Just buy one, you won't regret it |
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PS3 is just a better MACHINE overall. 360 is fine for a gaming console circa 2007. PS3 on the other hand will last you well into 2010 me thinks - simply because of Blu Ray. Online is free, and you have to love the fact that PS3 hasn't even hit it's 'stride' yet. 360 just peaked with Halo 3 (there will be nothing out in 2008 for 360 that is even close to that level of success unless Alan Wake becomes some sort of smash hit ) and meanwhile the PS3 will have a year one could only dream of - Gran Turismo 5, Grand Theft Auto 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, SOCOM, Tekken 6, Killzone 2 - ALL IN THE SAME YEAR! It will be so awesome
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Not to mention Haze, SOCOM is actually SOCOM: Confrontation from SOE earlier in the year AND SOCOM 4 from Zipper later in the year, Final Fantasy XIII, FFXIII Versus (not an FF man myself, but I know plenty of people who do love the series), Metal Gear Online, MotorStorm 2, Resistance 2. And then we get all the good multiplatform titles too. GTA IV, Mercenaries 2, Indiana Jones, and so on. Good year to have a PS3. 
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The funny thing is that the multiplatform titles will sell better on the 360 like last year. 
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If something with a little over half the Xbox's user base sold as many games as the Xbox did, I would be very surprised. Watch that gap close this year though. Considering the PS3's been outdoing the 360 despite having two major competitors and a dearth of good games last year, it will be interesting to see how it performs with an asston of fantastic exclusives available this year. |
According to NPD, more PS2s were sold in December than PS3s. Also, in December, not a single PS3 game was in the top ten. Four XBox 360 games were in the top ten and three of them were multiplatform titles (CoD 4, Assassin's Creed, and Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock). The highly rated Uncharted: Drake's Fortune sold about 206,000 units. The fantastic exclusives for the PS3 this year are only a handful. I really don't see Halo 3 killer sales-type game. I really don't think the PS3 will close the gap that much because a lot of the coming games are multiplatform titles. |
NPD covers the USA and has guesstimates for Canada, which are the PS3's worst markets at the moment and the 360's best. You're comparing the software sales of one-third of the 9 mil PS3 market to two-thirds of the 16 mil Xbox market. With that in mind, what did you expect to see? If you don't ignore the other two-thirds, the PS3's doing fine, both in hardware and software. Given the majority of the upcoming exclusives are games that are sequels to stuff that's already popular in the North American market, or are new products geared more toward the interests of the North American market, I don't see why it'd be inconceivable that its fortunes here would turn around over the year. Releasing games that are geared toward the European market has seen the PS3 eclipse the 360 in sales of both hardware and software for weeks and make steady gains on its installed base. Games the Japanese like such as Dynasty Warriors shot the PS3 past even the Wii briefly in Japan. But, a year-long barrage of big name American-geared games somehow won't do much in the US? Not buying it. |
Yeah, I know. I assumed you were talking about the US only with mentioning the gap closing in 2008.
Oh, I'm buying it. I don't see none of the games pulling close to Halo 3 sale numbers or even the 360 version of CoD 4 numbers. Sure some of the exclusive PS3 games will probably sell a million units; however, the gap wouldn't close that much because of the 360 exclusive games and the multiplatform games coming soon. The 360 will likely dominate in America and the PS3 will basically dominate the rest of the World. |
Exactly, like I said we have both and that damn Wii, which the novelty already wore off but, the PS3 will kick the 360's ass. 3 months, 6 at the most. |
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I just got the RROD on my 360. I've had it just over 1 year. Lately I've been very displeased with MS. Xbox live has been slow and unreliable. Also, the damn thing puts circular scratches in my games. I'm sending it in for repair (supposedly free of charge) and then I'm probably going to sell it and get a PS3. I'm so sick of the hassle and the shitty products Microsoft puts out. Plus not to mention I have to pay for Live. My original Xbox was bullet proof for 5+ years, btw. |
I've got to hand it to them, from an engineering standpoint, the original Xbox really was a nice piece of work. I think they must have fired half the engineering team and put the rest on crack when they designed the 360, though. "All right, let's get some silicon. This is what we need stuck on it. This is what it has to be connected to. Now start cramming shit in there. Final design needs to be ready in 3 days. Oh yeah, and make it concave just because." 
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They were taking huge losses on the OXB because of the build quality....that's why they rolled out the XB360 and dropped support for the original before it's time, rather than let it wind down naturally like Sony is doing with the PS2. In the end, they probably didn't save anything by cutting quality as they were forced to deal with RROD to save thier reputation in the face of a 30% + failure rate. |
Yep. They were quick out of the gate and that got them the lead in sales...but now it's biting them in the ass. It's like the tortoise and the hare and the PS3 is the tortoise.
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